Coded by momoziro, an (early) alpha version of NetBFS is now available. NetBFS is a native network fs for Zeta. For more details and a screenshot head over to ICO.
NetBFS Alpha For Zeta
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A screen shot of a file system. Awsome!
Really though, the idea is good.
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=223&slide=1
Anybody know anything about any of the technical details? How is authentication handled? What ports does it use? TCP or UDP? Does it use an existing protocol with an additional metadata layer, or its own protocol? Will it be eventually supported as a standard filesystem addon? Inquiring minds want to know!
Seeing the clip-art mouse and monitor art in the Zeta Pro screenshots makes me cry. For me, that is the first sign of a philosophical misdirection. No class.
Seeing the clip-art mouse and monitor art in the Zeta Pro screenshots makes me cry.
My thoughts exactly! I think the Zeta designers ought to be sent to the same Zen school Be guys were in. Original Be’s design was elegant and very well thought out. Most of all, they resisted the temptation Microsoft, KDE, Gnome and Zeta all succumbed to: putting logos, clip-art and widget overkill on every dialog with some free ad space. Clean it up, please!!
No idea…
Ingo Weinhold also has a native networked fs in the works… seems the dev didn’t know about that :^)
Yes. They ought to have their groin molested with farming tools, especially for the Preference app. And another time for JukeBox.
Yes its ugly, get ride of all graphics and let the terminal be the only visible application in Zeta
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I think the Zeta designers ought to be sent to the same Zen school Be guys were in.
Was that not Apple?
maybe it’s not necessary to reach the opposite extreme…
usually the right thing stays in the middle… but it’s imho undeniable that such a large pane for a chip clipart and a slider, such as http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=223&slide=5…
is actually overkill…
I am seeing things or is the kernel in their little about dialog box last built in Nov 2001? That’s got to be typo!
No, Zeta’s kernel at the moment is just the one from Dano, which was built in 2001
However, because its not a monolithic kernel, its not as hugely important – you don’t need to rebuild the kernel to get drivers, etc added in.
Nope. No typo. Zeta is building their system off of partially closed source never released legaly to the public so called next Beos release – Dano. They CAN’T update the kernel.
in case you can’t tell. I hate what yellowtab is doing and has done to Be (Zeta).
You guys complaining about the appearance of Zeta… the windows are OpenTracker (maybe running with a different default font), menus are what comes with Dano, and the icons are an SVG version of the the old BeOS icons (maybe with some extra rounding and stuff). The only thing there that is original is the Preference application. The rest they just grab from the freeware on BeBits. The fuzziness of the small icons are a result of SVG scaling…?!
I own a copy, btw, of RC3 and don’t use it. I still use R5 (www.beossum.net) because Zeta is bloated, seems slower somehow, and really is nothing more than BeOS packaged with apps you can download for free. ;/ They haven’t touched the kernel (which is what I was hoping for) nor do I think they ever will…
I had a copy of Dano running for awhile and frankly, I see little or no difference (except there are no apps compiled to run on Dano) to Zeta. It’s a huge disappointment. But really, the appearance (if you refer to window decorations, fonts) is what comes with it by default but can be changed to look like good old BeOS.
I’m still holding onto the hope that Haiku will finish up someday… when real progress can be made to support more memory, more modern hardware, openGL, etc.
Since Zeta is commercial, what freely available Be operating system do you guys reccomend?
about the file system for network, bravo, all news concerning one or many try in that way are welcome.
Now to continue with the off topic zeta stuff. I really don’t like the pref app and it have nothing against the look. Tell me how is it better than the tracker integrated current R5 pref selection? The only advantage i see is that a computer newbe can have more hint in one view about what can achieve a certain pref. And yes it bring the waste of screen estate of the exemple pointed before because app with window size always changing is not feeling right. To me it’s an error, because once the newbie toyed with it 2 or 3 time he know all what it does, then he need to suffer it for years to come. It’s not really a big learning curve really!
The current BeOS developer trend is to do stuff more integrated, file sustem add-on (good exemple is the ftp file system), the IM kit, thumb nail in tracker windows etc… No need to become so monolitic.
I know the folk at YT try to add stuff, but please don’t add it for add-ing stuff only. Sometime (many time in fact) replacing or even removing is a better choice. Sure there is pressure from those pretending they don’t use BeOS for x or y reason, but those will not use it even if you do custom version for each of them anyway. Do the right thing the right way and see what happen.
I would like to answer that there is only one BeOS, and only one free version (R5 Personal Edition, or “PE”), but it may need a little extra work installing on some recent hardware, like if you’ve got more than 1GB RAM, 512GB harddisks, or an AMD processor. A Pentium I/II/III system with an Intel chipset is your best bet.
Zeta, may be easier to install on current hardware, since it should come with a few more drivers and patches already applied. I haven’t tried it myself though.
If you start from R5 PE, or get Pro from somewhere, be sure to install the IDE replacement driver, the new ATI or NVidia driver, and possibly BONE (the network stack kernel update). Look for these at http://www.bebits.com/
What you can do is install BeOS on an older machine, patch it with drivers and stuff and then move the harddisk to more recent hardware. (And copy it over to a local partition if you want.)
Hopefully Haiku will make all these worries go away, and bring back the good old BeOS user experience.
BeOS PE and mutations:
http://www.bebits.com/app/2680
http://www.bebits.com/app/3861
http://www.bebits.com/app/3892
On my computer the only “BeOS” distro i can use are Zeta neo Sp1
everything before Zeta neo are not bootable for me (I have a 120 GB HD)
when it comes to Zeta or Haiku I will support both (along as the can run the same programs)
Sure you can, just install the experimental IDE driver at BeBits and you can boot R5 or what have you.