I have 9.2 running now with kde only. I tried this a few weeks ago or so when I had 9.1 running.I did the ulb thing and all that but it wasnt quite right. As a long time suse user I have always had annoying issues when trying to share KDE and Gnome on the same partition. I gotta keep them seperated.(I will be the first to say some of the problems are self-inflicted)
I do have 9.2 with Gnome only on a different partition that I will try updating to 2.8.This way if the process goes sideways I wont have to panic!
I have Ubuntu on another partition which has gnome 2.8 and it really IS nice. I still prefer kde though but its nice to stay current with the latest and greatest.
Why not just “settle” for the new Novell Linux Desktop? Sure it doesn’t come with the latest 2.8 packages, but at least it’s supported and integrated into the OS. If you need Gnome 2.8 why not use a distrothat supports it like FC3 or Ubuntu?
I have some concerns with users advising SuSE Linux users to install Gnome packages from alterante sources instead of from a secure YaST Source. For one the packages installed from an alternate source for Gnome 2.8 will update the Gnome packages but may cause issues with some features that Novell implemented in the SLP 9.2 release. Novell for example included some of their own tools in their version of Gnome that was previously only included in KDE. Second is that the packages since not coming from Novell do not have their digital signature on the packages to ensure stability and security for the end user. This is why Novell advises SuSE Linux users to use their optimized kernel through YOU (YaST Online Update) and not compile on their own from places like Apt mirrors which are not guaranteed to be secure or stable. Novell after all is part of LSB (Linux Standards Base) ensuring specific standards are met. Just a warning before those new to SuSE Linux make this so called update.
“…APT? Great, more stuff I’ve never heard about. Turns out that APT is a tool similar to the RPM package management component that Yast provides in Suse 9.1. But better yet, it allows you to add a ton of RPM sources (ftp servers) with packages made by other people. This must cause problems, right? Not to this date…..”
I installed it for my PII 266 MHz laptop with 192 MB memory — it doesn’t run kde 3.3.1 very well I’m afraid. Well, it’s not running gnome 2.8 that well either but it’s more tolerable.
I find it to be pretty well integrate. The menus have good selections IMHO. Almost all the apps are gnome apps and then there is a seperate menu entry to access suse’s menu. I found one problem where the menu entries for yast2 and synaptic need gtksu installed for running the programs as root. I later found that xsu must be installed for this. If these apps don’t lunch after clicking on the menu entry, that’s probably the reason… xsu can be installed via apt or synaptic. I’m actually using my own version of xsu (mostly written from scratch) because way back when I needed it it was buggy.
Does the startup notification for anybody? I have the notification on the window list but my mouse cursor doesn’t change. I know that startup-notification must be built and installed before compiling the panel, the applets and possible gnome-vfs in order for this to work.
However I wish that SuSE/Novell took Ogley’s Gnome, ironed out the bugs and made it the default for SuSE.
I can’t agree more.SuSE traditionally tried allways to give it’s distribution a distinctive look.As an addtion to ximian ,dropline,it would be a slightly significant improvement.
That, but also, say, upgrading SuSE to the next version from CDs – third party packages have the potential to bork that kind of thing for sure.
@i_code_too_much – XFce would probably be a better fit for that machine. That’s what I use on my p2/400 128MB laptop, it’s noticeably less slow than GNOME.
I have 9.2 running now with kde only. I tried this a few weeks ago or so when I had 9.1 running.I did the ulb thing and all that but it wasnt quite right. As a long time suse user I have always had annoying issues when trying to share KDE and Gnome on the same partition. I gotta keep them seperated.(I will be the first to say some of the problems are self-inflicted)
I do have 9.2 with Gnome only on a different partition that I will try updating to 2.8.This way if the process goes sideways I wont have to panic!
I have Ubuntu on another partition which has gnome 2.8 and it really IS nice. I still prefer kde though but its nice to stay current with the latest and greatest.
James Ogley is a nice guy, but that project is too big for one man, IMHO.
So I find his Gnome 2.8 truly great looking but quite buggy as well. One man’s opinion…
However I wish that SuSE/Novell took Ogley’s Gnome, ironed out the bugs and made it the default for SuSE.
wow that was a quick and painless read
and to think that some people still think linux is a PITA!
this guy sure showed EVERYBODY.
is anybody actually surprised that ximian won’t install nicely on SuSE?
Why not just “settle” for the new Novell Linux Desktop? Sure it doesn’t come with the latest 2.8 packages, but at least it’s supported and integrated into the OS. If you need Gnome 2.8 why not use a distrothat supports it like FC3 or Ubuntu?
I just have one question:
What is the name for the theme in the screenshots? It is really nice.
I have lived in a KDE planet for about 4 years now. And I am new to Gnome.
Can somebody tell me please.
Thanks.
I just did this tonight, only I’m using gentoo.
Here are the steps I performed to upgrade to gnome 2.8:
1. “emerge -u gnome” at command line.
basically, i’m wondering how long it takes to install Gnome 2.8 (which is VERY worth the update!!) in gentoo.
Also, anybody who doesn’t want all this hassle should try Ubuntu. Woohoo!!!
The theme is Nuvola. It is in gnome-themes-extras, which is a collection of SVG themes for GNOME.
it`s buggy, but still better integrated, poliched that suse`s gnome
If you are – now THIS is a distro that doesn’t support GNOME properly.
hehe
Try Progeny Debian. I am sure you’ll be amazed.
I have some concerns with users advising SuSE Linux users to install Gnome packages from alterante sources instead of from a secure YaST Source. For one the packages installed from an alternate source for Gnome 2.8 will update the Gnome packages but may cause issues with some features that Novell implemented in the SLP 9.2 release. Novell for example included some of their own tools in their version of Gnome that was previously only included in KDE. Second is that the packages since not coming from Novell do not have their digital signature on the packages to ensure stability and security for the end user. This is why Novell advises SuSE Linux users to use their optimized kernel through YOU (YaST Online Update) and not compile on their own from places like Apt mirrors which are not guaranteed to be secure or stable. Novell after all is part of LSB (Linux Standards Base) ensuring specific standards are met. Just a warning before those new to SuSE Linux make this so called update.
From the article:
“…APT? Great, more stuff I’ve never heard about. Turns out that APT is a tool similar to the RPM package management component that Yast provides in Suse 9.1. But better yet, it allows you to add a ton of RPM sources (ftp servers) with packages made by other people. This must cause problems, right? Not to this date…..”
key words being “to date”. it seems obvious he’s not attempted a version update of his system yet, for instance.
It’s great work considering he does it alone.
I installed it for my PII 266 MHz laptop with 192 MB memory — it doesn’t run kde 3.3.1 very well I’m afraid. Well, it’s not running gnome 2.8 that well either but it’s more tolerable.
I find it to be pretty well integrate. The menus have good selections IMHO. Almost all the apps are gnome apps and then there is a seperate menu entry to access suse’s menu. I found one problem where the menu entries for yast2 and synaptic need gtksu installed for running the programs as root. I later found that xsu must be installed for this. If these apps don’t lunch after clicking on the menu entry, that’s probably the reason… xsu can be installed via apt or synaptic. I’m actually using my own version of xsu (mostly written from scratch) because way back when I needed it it was buggy.
Does the startup notification for anybody? I have the notification on the window list but my mouse cursor doesn’t change. I know that startup-notification must be built and installed before compiling the panel, the applets and possible gnome-vfs in order for this to work.
Right, but then the apt4rpm people advise *against* a dist-upgrade:
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/
I’m running gnome 2.8 on freebsd! all i had to do was
sh upgrade_gnome.sh
😛
However I wish that SuSE/Novell took Ogley’s Gnome, ironed out the bugs and made it the default for SuSE.
I can’t agree more.SuSE traditionally tried allways to give it’s distribution a distinctive look.As an addtion to ximian ,dropline,it would be a slightly significant improvement.
That, but also, say, upgrading SuSE to the next version from CDs – third party packages have the potential to bork that kind of thing for sure.
@i_code_too_much – XFce would probably be a better fit for that machine. That’s what I use on my p2/400 128MB laptop, it’s noticeably less slow than GNOME.