Although it is not an official build, PearPC .4pre has been released on Richard Goodwin’s site. You can pick it up here.This build has some serious speed improvements. I am actually emulating OS X faster than some native machines can run it.
According to some mac “freaks”, OS X’s average installation time is a half an hour to an hour (usually closer to an hour) and I installed OS X Panther on my Athlon64 3200+ in 20 minutes. .4pre seems very stable and now also there is sound support. Although the sound is claimed to work, I have yet to get it to work.
The networking seems to be working pretty well again in .4pre. You need to have the TAP-Win32 drivers installed from OpenVPN and then you need to install the Apple3com drivers also inorder to get it to run. You can get directions to install the drivers right off of the pearpc site:
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/apsl.html
All the instructions can be found on the official web site PearPC Sourceforge Web Site
Other useful links and tutorials can be found at www.pearpc.net
Have fun!
sounds great. Keep up the good work.
only if you are installing it on a G3 machine with a clock of less than 300 MHz which are machines that require a special patch to get it to install anyway. so, congradualtions Pear on being able to emulate a 300 MHz machine on a 2.2 GHz Processor.
I will say however that this is a good deal faster than it was running. OS X on pear may run faily well, probably as well as XP does on Virtual PC (which is pretty decent, though not as good as a native machine).
Okay, so that means we can expect a new CherryOS release within a few days, right?
(seriously, I haven’t heard of those guys since the “we know you ripped it off” fiasco — not that I really expect to, but when have they gone out of business exactly?)
“CherryOS Trial and Purchase Download Available November 25, 2004”
http://www.cherryos.com/
How…. coincidental.
Not today, not tomorrow, but someday, you will be able to run OSX at acceptable performance on commodity hardware.
The next day I will take out a massive short position on Apple stock.
Could this emulator be installed atop a DarwinX86/xfree rig?
I realize that the emulator’s fundamental purpose is to convert PPC to equivalent x86 instructions…
…but wouldn’t having a native (x86) Darwin foundation OS…. afford PearPC an easier time communicating from the host OS to its emulated equivalent (as both would be the same Darwin kernels)?
I’ve often thought the same thing…why doesn’t PearPC run on top of Darwin x86 and only emulate the Aqua, etc. layers of the OS. Wouldn’t that mean tremendous speed gains?
Why do PearPC topic carry OS X logo? PearPC has absolutely nothing to do with OS X!
30 minutes on my 450MHz G4 and 20 minutes on my dual 1GHz G4. Installation time says very little about the emulator speed since most of the task is filesystem I/O.
On the contrary, it has everything to do with OS X.
I’d guess that a huge majority of the people playing with it are running OS X in it, and that many of them will know OS X a lot better afterwards.
Welcome to SoftPear ( http://www.softpear.org/ )
Seems to be in the early nonworking stages though.
Wow, some months ago I’ve played with the cvs of pearpc, and got a version around 0.1
My osx installation took 8 hours on a P4 2.4Ghz…
Has this changed ? I will see it now, I will start again this experience :p
Not today, not tomorrow, but someday, you will be able to run OSX at acceptable performance on commodity hardware.
The lawyers are probably already salivating…
This may be interesting if it ever runs Mac OS 9/8/7. (PPC, I’m perfectly aware of Basilisk II does 68k versions of Mac OS). Otherwise, I just don’t understand the point. Mac OS X is a glorified Unix environment. You can get most of its features by running Linux, *BSD, or oven a commercial Unix implementation. The few you do not have access to won’t perform acceptably anyway.
Mac OS 9 is somewhat better because you don’t need half a gig of RAM to get it running acceptably, and it doesn’t make as many demands on the video card.
“According to some mac “freaks”, OS X’s average installation time is a half an hour to an hour (usually closer to an hour)”
How old are the machines of those “some mac freaks”?
I don’t think is a desktop machine of this year.. Like your Athlon64 3200+..
It’s really stupid to believe that a x86 emulating Mac Os X will be faster than a similar spec powerpc machine..
Anyway, i suppose that you are running pearpc on a serialata or a 10.000RPM+ hard disk..
20min = 1200 sec.. about 1.700Mbytes of a normal install : 1200 sec = 1,4mbytes/seg..
Not that fast..
“Not today, not tomorrow, but someday, you will be able to run OSX at acceptable performance on commodity hardware.
The next day I will take out a massive short position on Apple stock.”
At that time, i think mac users will have OS XI or later..
And i don’t think that the Apple stock will go down if a good powerpc emulator is released..
The APPL Stock have doubled because the iPod is selling really well, the pearpc guys will have to make an iPod emulator for Dell before
And at that time, Apple will have Mac Os X for x86 so you can run it native without pearpc..
And you pc freak users will make Apple the new monopoly os company, Microsoft will be dead and we will see Mac Os X anywhere (including cars and TVs) with a lot of virus & spyware..
keep dreaming
Eugenia, I love u !
Could anybody please correct this article? It’s not official and besides that contains information that is not exactly right. For example you don’t need that 3com driver,
you can as well use OSX’s realtek etc….
AND: PearPC IS AN EMULATOR OF THE POWER PC PLATFORM.
IT’S NOT AN EMULATION LAYER FOR OSX.
coolkamio, it’s AAPL, not APPL. There’s several billion dollars difference, if I recall correctly the last time I made the same mistake.
😛
Well, i’m not one of their lucky investors..
Apple Stock rocks today from 14-19$ to 50-60$ in about one year!!!
“And at that time, Apple will have Mac Os X for x86 so you can run it native without pearpc..
And you pc freak users will make Apple the new monopoly os company, Microsoft will be dead and we will see Mac Os X anywhere (including cars and TVs) with a lot of virus & spyware..
keep dreaming
”
Ghghgh! 😀
Mac OS X takes no more than about 10-20 minutes. Even on the lowest end machines. Installation is mainly harddrive intensive not processor intensive this is no way to test the speed of the emulator. How about installing Photoshop and giving it a run?
They point is, they are really making progress. I for instance am both an open source programmer and a professional programmer. I have a laptop that has to be X86 (hense XP & linux) because of hardware issues at clients sites. I own an ibook and a new powerbook (12″, they are great).
I am excited about pearpc because it may enable me to use OSX for a compile or fix on the road. I don’t like caring 2 laptops.
Development takes time, so the fact that already they have moved from installing taking days, to under an hour is great. It doesn’t mean it is done, it just means they are getting there!!!
congrats guys!
Hey, you could be taking your 12′ on the road and run your windows fixes in VPC instead !#@
nice work guys,
keep it up!
Not today, not tomorrow, but someday, you will be able to run OSX at acceptable performance on commodity hardware.
Undoubtly, by 2010 you we’ll be able to run today’s OSX at the same speed of a today’s Mac, on a 2010 common PC. I can’t wait!
Acording to the link
Altivec 0.4 branch (experimental)
interesting…
One giant step closer to running OS X on my “goatway” at work!
I had an Power Mac G3/400 B&W with a SCSI disk and the installation time starting from the first boot and ending with a finished (but unpatched) OSX took about hour and a half.
20 minutes sounds good…. If only I had anything faster than a P3/800.
Is this a joke (on their FAQ section):
Q. Don’t tell me stories, when will I be able to run Mac OS X with SoftPear?
A. Since great efforts have beend made concerning the recompiler and the loader for Linux, we plan to be able to run at least console based Darwin/PPC applications within summer 2014.
Note the date: Summer 2014… to be able to run console apps! Is this a typo? Or is this whole thing a joke?