Yeah. We’re even waiting for a stable 2.8 on Gentoo. Seems like more AMD64 stable builds are coming than x86 stable builds these days. Before someone else says it:
Or do you practically have to relay on the distro vendors to package it for you?
I have heard that GNOME has been getting more and more complex to the point that it simply isn’t ‘user-installable’ these days.
I enjoy using GNOME, but they will most likely face a crisis in available developer and/or bug reporter numbers if nobody can be expected to be able to get it up and running on their machines.
I have also had a lot of issues with features e.g. SMB integration – where nobody knows if they are supposed to work, or if they are supposed to work stably, or not.
I do a bit of programming with GTK+/GNOME etc. and I think the basic foundations, principles and technologies behind GNOME are sound, but I would like to see a GNOME 3.0 that isn’t plagued by dependency and library versioning problems, and has a set of features that all work correctly – if it doesnt work, and it isn’t tested properly, dont ship it as part of a final release.
Maybe you lack a sense of time. gnome releases a new version every 6 months from 2.2 onwards. so its right according to schedule. neither early nor late
Well I’ve installed it for Mandrake 10.1 (unoffical packages) and it seems to be abit faster/smoother than 2.8, at least Natilus is loading faster than it was before hand. (k6-2 450Mhz/256MB)
i feel the same, it seems like the team in debian in general are waiting until sarge comes out, whenever that is going to be. im still waiting for 1.0PR of firefox as well.
i’d change back to gentoo but ive niether the time or care to install from scratch again.
Well, yes and no. I haven’t looked into it very closely but a quick install from experimental and alioth gave me Gnome 2.8.1 but with a strange panel. According to some reports and screenies the panel should have the apps entry and a computer entry that houses the desktop, home, drives folders. Am i mistaken or what is happening here?
It also broke some configurations. Don’t worry, i already sent a report. For the time being i am back to 2.6.
I wasn’t aware that debian still didn’t have 2.8 in Sid. I’ve been using and enjoying 2.8 with Ubuntu the past couple weeks or so. For what it’s worth, Gnome 2.8 seems noticeably faster than 2.6….but maybe it’s just me
The GNOME team is currently trying to polish all the pending issues (partial upgrades, MIME transitions…) before trying to upload to unstable. Once we decide we want to upload and we get the OK from the Release Managers, it’s probable that Sarge will have to be released with GNOME 2.8, or else many unrelated packages will start picking up GNOME 2.8 dependencies and won’t propagate. This is why we need to be very sure about what we’re doing.
Can someone post a link to the changelog? I didn’t find one in TFA.
Here you go:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2004-October/msg…
is there any news of an ebuild for this coming out soon?
Yeah. We’re even waiting for a stable 2.8 on Gentoo. Seems like more AMD64 stable builds are coming than x86 stable builds these days. Before someone else says it:
If I could help, I would. I can’t.
the bug where gnome-theme-manager stops working when the composite extension is enabled.
composite extension is enabled
—
composite extension itself is buggy and disabled by default.
Isn’t this a little premature? gnome 2.4 was out forever! gnome 2.6 just came out not too long ago . . .
Or do you practically have to relay on the distro vendors to package it for you?
I have heard that GNOME has been getting more and more complex to the point that it simply isn’t ‘user-installable’ these days.
I enjoy using GNOME, but they will most likely face a crisis in available developer and/or bug reporter numbers if nobody can be expected to be able to get it up and running on their machines.
I have also had a lot of issues with features e.g. SMB integration – where nobody knows if they are supposed to work, or if they are supposed to work stably, or not.
I do a bit of programming with GTK+/GNOME etc. and I think the basic foundations, principles and technologies behind GNOME are sound, but I would like to see a GNOME 3.0 that isn’t plagued by dependency and library versioning problems, and has a set of features that all work correctly – if it doesnt work, and it isn’t tested properly, dont ship it as part of a final release.
Installer scripts?
Garnome.
Maybe you lack a sense of time. gnome releases a new version every 6 months from 2.2 onwards. so its right according to schedule. neither early nor late
You are mistaken. Gnome 2 follows a 6 month schedule since 2.0.0.
I couldn’t the previous release dates on the gnome web site but ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop gives this
2.0.0 in Sep 2002
2.2.0 in Feb 2003
2.4.0 in Sep 2003
2.6.0 in Mar 2004
2.8.0 in Sep 2004
The next stable release 2.10.0 is due in march 2005.
see http://www.gnome.org/start/2.9/
A nice README/INSTALL file,
This is how you do it,
THis is what you need,
Would be nice.
Well I’ve installed it for Mandrake 10.1 (unoffical packages) and it seems to be abit faster/smoother than 2.8, at least Natilus is loading faster than it was before hand. (k6-2 450Mhz/256MB)
Hope that it will encourage the Debian gnome team to put gnome2.8.1 to unstable soon.
(maybe they are too busy with the next release)
I’m “tired” to use “2.6″ after over a month 2.8 was pubslished.
(I know experimental tree exists).
Another note on the release schema.
GEdit 2.6.* had some bugs.
They were fixed under 2.7, right ?
Why should have I to wait up to 2.8 to use a version of GEdit fixed ?
Does 2.6.2 contain 2.7 fixes too ?
Thanks for clarificating my doubts.
i feel the same, it seems like the team in debian in general are waiting until sarge comes out, whenever that is going to be. im still waiting for 1.0PR of firefox as well.
i’d change back to gentoo but ive niether the time or care to install from scratch again.
> im still waiting for 1.0PR of firefox as well.
Two hours ago I did apt-get -u dist-upgrade (using sid) and it was a nice surprise to see that firefox was upgrade to 1.0pr 🙂
Where did you get those packages?
Use Experimental package branch :3 The Gnome2.8 is in there.
Well, yes and no. I haven’t looked into it very closely but a quick install from experimental and alioth gave me Gnome 2.8.1 but with a strange panel. According to some reports and screenies the panel should have the apps entry and a computer entry that houses the desktop, home, drives folders. Am i mistaken or what is happening here?
It also broke some configurations. Don’t worry, i already sent a report. For the time being i am back to 2.6.
Regards
Gnome was never this easy to install like 2.x is.
Step 1: be sure to tackle packages in the order shown here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2004/10/msg00060.html
Step 2: unpack each source package, go into it, do a configure && make && make install.
Done.
wweeee, i just checked before on packages.debian.org
its about time it was in.
ill just wait until 2.8 is given the all clear from the experimental branch, can’t be that much longer
I wasn’t aware that debian still didn’t have 2.8 in Sid. I’ve been using and enjoying 2.8 with Ubuntu the past couple weeks or so. For what it’s worth, Gnome 2.8 seems noticeably faster than 2.6….but maybe it’s just me
The GNOME team is currently trying to polish all the pending issues (partial upgrades, MIME transitions…) before trying to upload to unstable. Once we decide we want to upload and we get the OK from the Release Managers, it’s probable that Sarge will have to be released with GNOME 2.8, or else many unrelated packages will start picking up GNOME 2.8 dependencies and won’t propagate. This is why we need to be very sure about what we’re doing.
urpmi syntax is.
wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/gnome2.7
with ./hdlist.cz
Ignore the 2.7 in the url the packages are 2.8.1