Open Carpet and Red Carpet are a nice idea, and it could become a “killer app”, if Novel/Ximian invested more on it (making it more available and getting people to know it).
I suppose they’re more interested on its use in the enterprise, because most of my “casual user” friends never heard of RC although it could help them to deal with the installation problems they have on Linux.
I think all desktop distro’s should include it when it reaches 1.0. It could indeed become a “killer app”, if in the future all software will be available via carpet.
Red Carpet was sweet, but I won’t be using Open Carpet because of my experiences with XD2 on RedHat. When I used Red Carpet to install XD2, it broke my RPM database. I was still able to install files, but none that depended on the Berkeley database (since Ximian forced installed it’s own version). Since apt-get is pretty anal about having to having a consistent RPM database, I wasn’t able to use it again. There was a kludge fix posted on bug report by one of the users (you had to use that’s unknown user’s unvalidated version of Berkeley DB instead of the official one) but the experience left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn’t like the way that Red Carpet assumed that the RPM database didn’t matter (it forcefully installed files without dependency checking) because it had it’s own way of handling things.
I’m now using Fedora and couldn’t be happier. YUM (and apt-get) play nicely with the RPM database and have all but eliminated the need for a GUI. If Open Carpet respects the RPM database, never force install things, and assumes that it is not the center of the Fedora universe (i.e. it uses yum and apt-get to actually do the installation), I’ll be willing to give it a try. Otherwise, I’ll pass.
Maybe many have missed the release because nobody uses it? When RC was first released it was a Ximina-only app, no way to have it access your own package repository; that kind of closed-free-software that leaves you with “contrasting” opinions about it. And it always messed up my Debian stable (and unstable) boxes because it wanted to do *its* dependency games instead of using the native software’s ones.
If OC would be released a couple of years ago, yeah, great. Not it is just too late.
Open Carpet and Red Carpet are a nice idea, and it could become a “killer app”, if Novel/Ximian invested more on it (making it more available and getting people to know it).
I suppose they’re more interested on its use in the enterprise, because most of my “casual user” friends never heard of RC although it could help them to deal with the installation problems they have on Linux.
I think all desktop distro’s should include it when it reaches 1.0. It could indeed become a “killer app”, if in the future all software will be available via carpet.
sorry I tend not to RTFA anymore since lately most of them are FUD…
at least until I see enough contoversy to get me curious enough to read about it.
Red Carpet was sweet, but I won’t be using Open Carpet because of my experiences with XD2 on RedHat. When I used Red Carpet to install XD2, it broke my RPM database. I was still able to install files, but none that depended on the Berkeley database (since Ximian forced installed it’s own version). Since apt-get is pretty anal about having to having a consistent RPM database, I wasn’t able to use it again. There was a kludge fix posted on bug report by one of the users (you had to use that’s unknown user’s unvalidated version of Berkeley DB instead of the official one) but the experience left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn’t like the way that Red Carpet assumed that the RPM database didn’t matter (it forcefully installed files without dependency checking) because it had it’s own way of handling things.
I’m now using Fedora and couldn’t be happier. YUM (and apt-get) play nicely with the RPM database and have all but eliminated the need for a GUI. If Open Carpet respects the RPM database, never force install things, and assumes that it is not the center of the Fedora universe (i.e. it uses yum and apt-get to actually do the installation), I’ll be willing to give it a try. Otherwise, I’ll pass.
Maybe many have missed the release because nobody uses it? When RC was first released it was a Ximina-only app, no way to have it access your own package repository; that kind of closed-free-software that leaves you with “contrasting” opinions about it. And it always messed up my Debian stable (and unstable) boxes because it wanted to do *its* dependency games instead of using the native software’s ones.
If OC would be released a couple of years ago, yeah, great. Not it is just too late.