SkyFS has been updated to support the “Securtiy Context”, and has now become a full multi-user filesystem. All files can be associated with such security contexts to permit various file operations (read, write, append, list, modify etc.) for all users specified in this security context only. In other news, system-wide controls have been polished up (screenshot available on website), and preliminary translation and support for the Chinese language has been implemented.
SkyFS Gets True Multi-user Support
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yeah its good that it finally has multi-user, as no modern Os should be without it. also Robert has ported dotGNU to SkyOS 5.0 just a few last Lib’s to sort out
Well, of course I already knew this a lot earlier
,but it’s still great news. Especially the new controls excite me. Can’t wait for beta-7 
Oh, and for everyone else: look out for my interview with Robert Szeleney here on OSNews.com!
This isn’t true multi-user support, but just another quick hack. For example, nobody wants to generally forbid thread creation for a user. You want to allow a maximum number of threads, or maybe a minimum live-time (to prevent ‘bad’ apps from overloading the system), and so on. IMO what SkyOS (and any OS that wants to go commercial) needs is not such half-baken stuff, but rather a flexible and robust base system.
Man that is looking so sweet from what SkyOS used to look like
I have to say SkyOS has really excelled to be a well known hobbyOS and beyond!
The multi-user support seems alot better than the way most systems handle it – you know, a preset selection of abilities each kind of account has specified with it, nothing more. I really do like this fine-grained security approach for multiple users.
Also, it seems that Robert ported dotGNU (or Portable.net at least) for beta 7. So, now he’s got a managed programming enviroment available – but how well does it integrate? Does it have libraries for SkyGI available, for instance? I suppose that makes the enviroment a pretty tight ship!
Well i dont think that they will, only, take money for it. There has allways been a free download of skyos.
It was NOT deleted, it was moderated down.
The dotGNU port is not finished yet, although you can compile and launch small C# programs already.
For 5.0 final there will be a System.Drawing.SkyOS class which will make it possible to use System.Windows.Forms in SkyOS.
@nightflyer:
>>IMO what SkyOS (and any OS that wants to go commercial) needs is not such half-baken stuff, but rather a flexible and robust base system.
The security system used in SkyOS is very flexible currently. There are more the 200 different rights which can be assigned to a user. To make things easier for people who don’t want to have such a fine grained security system you can choose from predefined schemes like Administrator, User, Children, Internet user, or even switch to single user system.
If you have any suggestion about the security system, I would be happy to hear it.
NOT! Are any of Sky’s widgets original??
It is looking good, much better that the last screen shots posted. Now will SkyOS have ‘fast user switching’?
Someday when I get some money i’m going to try this.
NM, it appears to have such.
“…which will make it possible to use System.Windows.Forms in SkyOS.”
Natively?! I would hate to see you accomplish something like that the Mono team strived for, and failed miserably at… how embarassing for them, I mean!
“NOT! Are any of Sky’s widgets original??”
Originality doesn’t mean a damn thing as long as they’re good to look at. However, it seems they have used the “Crystal” icon pack, which is a very beautiful set of icons to use. It complements the WindUI theme very nicely. To be honest it is a very beautiful desktop enviroment. I mean, its better than the default GTK+ themes.
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Originality doesn’t mean a damn thing as long as they’re good to look at. However, it seems they have used the “Crystal” icon pack, which is a very beautiful set of icons to use. It complements the WindUI theme very nicely. To be honest it is a very beautiful desktop enviroment. I mean, its better than the default GTK+ themes.”
buddy. gtk+ default theme is meant to be simple looking. if you want a beautiful theme choose something like ximian industrial which is the next default btw
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Natively?! I would hate to see you accomplish something like that the Mono team strived for, and failed miserably at… how embarassing for them, I mean
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they didnt fail at all. of course i bet you cant do any better but you can be a arm chair critique for sure.
Robert,
how about the Internet access? Is this managed through the security system?
(TCP/IP ports…)
You: buddy. gtk+ default theme is meant to be simple looking.
Me: I mean, its better than the default GTK+ themes.
Yeah, OK.
And yes, the Mono team failed at this: their original plan was to map S.W.F to GTK+ widgets for a native Linux implementation. They gave up on it and decided to use Wine instead; there were way too many issues that cropped up during the implementation that did not make it a worthwhile venture. That qualifies as a failure. It happens every now and again.
Also, my coding ability does not factor into this discussion in any way, so please keep your strawmen out of the argument.
“Also, my coding ability does not factor into this discussion in any way, so please keep your strawmen out of the argument.
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if you have been a developer you would known that what mono team did was the best compromise considering the fact that windows forms is just that. its tied to windows.
“their original plan was to map S.W.F to GTK+ widgets for a native Linux implementation.”
nope. they went the wine way pretty early. besides windows forms isnt going to be portable no matter how you implement it in binary version 100%. you are free to prove me wrong but with all those hndwinform pointers being thrown around it will be wine all over again
is it possible to play windows games on skyOS if not will it be in the future, will there be a DirectX implementation ?
etc… just curious.
Thnx
Snake
…but if the code were open-source and I knew what under the hood is, I would trust it.
>is it possible to play windows games on skyOS if not will it be in the future, will there be a DirectX implementation ?
Short answer: No.
Longer Answer: Windows games are written for Windows, not Linux, SkyOS, or anything else other than Windows. DirectX is also a tightly coupled API based on Windows and thus not particularly portable. Linux has some portability layers written to allow some things to run, but I do not believe SkyOS has one.
I could imagine the OpenGL games will be portable.
To Kelly, et al.
The only thing that seems to bother me about WindUI theme implementation. Is the scrollbars.
see here,
http://66.90.81.8/skyos.org/images/users.png
They don’t seem to match the rest of theme, they are small and have very sharp edges. The same thing with the buttons, I am assuming these aren’t final.
Anyway just a suggestion. Maybe you could try having buttons similar to the KDE Plastik theme, the only difference being making them similar to the min, max, close buttons (note: the glossiness). With rounded edges all around the button.
I suggest the same with the scrollbars.
Anyway I assume the theme isn’t final.
Actually now that I noticed it, make the buttons to look like this would be sweet.
http://66.90.81.8/skyos.org/images/login_test.jpg
You are welcome. As far as modding down, I guess many around here take certain things for granted, so when we see certain questions they do not come across as sincere but as flame bait.
For instance when anyone says “It is nice but why can’t I play my windows games on it.” it is generally assumed to be a troll. For people who use Non-Windows operating systems it is understood that compatibility with Windows apps will be somewhere between limited and non-existent. What is prefered is to instead concentrate on the features that it has. In this case Windows compatibility is a feature it does not have that many are tired of people asking about.
you mean something like this?
http://66.90.81.8/skyos.org/images/controls.png
I looked all over their website. I’d even be happy with a slightly older version of it. I just want to try it out and see how it works.
thanks!!!
http://skymirror.nathanpalmer.com/downloads/binaries.php
I have to really think that this may be a better choice for all those linux coders to code for. It seems fast, modern, clean. What are the down sides? Sure little apps for now. Can they be ported/made… sure.
I don’t mean to be insulting but that is silly. You can’t just jump from OS to OS each time the wind changes. SkyOS is a hobby OS. Hardware support is extremely limited, user base is tiny, security unproven, not a multi user environment. If I read the announcement right SkyOS now has the ability to have different logins with varying permission levels, not multi-user capability.
This is not to say that SkyOS is not a decent project, I honestly never tried it. But to suggest developers stop coding for Linux and start coding for SkyOS is a poorly thought out suggestion.
Yeah like that. How come I didn’t see that, I used the latest screenshots as an example too.
I went back to the site.
I guess my screenshot is actually older.
“http://skymirror.nathanpalmer.com/downloads/binaries.php“
If you click the download link you get a 404. I think you have to wait till 5.0 comes out
Wow – I’m very impressed. Depending on relative cost, portability, SkyOS looks like it could dethrone linux as my desktop in a year or two.
To be fair, this is due to the massive amount of work by Linux/GNU/BSD/OSS coders that can be easily leveraged to new platforms (SDL, samba, apache, GTK, icons, etc, etc).
Am I correct in assuming that SkyOS is very much written as a desktop unix? If so, how hard will it to be to enable write a native remote desktop interface for it? And how well will it intergrate in terms of things like sound, and devices?
So where the hell is 5.0. It’s been saying it would be available soon now for a month.
I have an old p166 with 80 megs of ram. Will SkyOS run on that. I’m looking for a lightweight, alternative(not linux or bsd) os to put on it to play around with.
I know that SkyOS is not a free OS as in Beer or Speech, but where’s the demo cd? Also how’s the hardware detection for the installer?
Where did you see that? They’ve given rough estimates but nothing concrete at all.
there isnt a download as of yet as SkyOS 5.0 is still in the beta phase, also in terms of someone earlier saying SkyOS isnt multi-user it only has permissions, okay care to explain what makes CHMOD different to permissions?… absolutely nothing they’re virtually the same.
Where did you see that? They’ve given rough estimates but nothing concrete at all.
Nah, that was something Kelly said in an old interview, but after that more and more was added, so the june-date wasn’t viable anymore.
Thanks, you just gave me another argument to stop reading the comments section on this (for the rest) wonderful site.
Idiot.
(please mod this
, couldn’t resist feeding the troll, I’m sorry)
Hey, hey i was just answering an honest question from
another reader!
what is wrong with you people?
This is her site, if you don’t like her or what she does with _her_ site, then by all means, feel free not to come here anymore.
If you feel that she has done something wrong, then politely tell her that, but there’s no need for insults.