The current version of MorphOS 1.5 has been presented at PUSH. From the slides of a presentation given at the show you can see these improvements. There is also a video (12 MB) available.
MorphOS 1.5 presentation at PUSH
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“Support for Radeon 7000/7200/7500
Voodoo more than twice as fast as in 1.4
Support for SiS 6326/300”
Welcome to 3 years ago.
The operating system is pretty, though!
“Welcome to 3 years ago.
The operating system is pretty, though!”
stop being a windows troll everywhere. the world has other operating systems. learn to deal with it
“stop being a windows troll everywhere.” Would it help if a linux user said the same thing?
@ MorphOS: Welcome to three years ago.
I’m not one to buy new hardware to try out a different OS, so unfortunately I will likely never experience MorphOS firsthand. Interesting to see it develop though.
FYI MorphOS has had 2D-support for Radeon cards for quite some time now, the article was talking about 3D-support. Next time bother to read the article properly before you come trolling here.
What advantages does Morph-OS have if you take away the Amiga compatability?
Well, MorphOS is a new OS and has a small user base. It is faster and easier than Linux, Windows or MacOS together. It is an OS for Amiga-Fans and also for Geeks who want to try out new systems. But if you think you wouldnt like it, no problem. Use your current system and stay away.
Wow, this is great… 3D support? Welcome to 3 years ago. And stop telling people that they troll !! This is old news on old hardware. 3D support is here since much longer on just about any other OS (Linux, Windows, MAC OS, …).
If MorphOS wants to be taken seriously, they have to do much better.
“3D support is here since much longer on just about any other OS (Linux, Windows, MAC OS, …). ”
Thats right, but these other systems are much older.
And dont forget. MorphOS is under heavy development. There is only a small developer team in contrast to Window, MacOS,… They are doing smaller steps. You are always welcome to visit one of these events around the world to test MorphOS by your own.
@madsenj
> What advantages does Morph-OS have if you take away the
> Amiga compatability?
Same question could be asked for Linux, what remains if you take away Unix compatibility ?
But seriously MorphOS is an AmigaOS, that was it’s aims and that’s why it was developed in first place I think.
I also believe that people are quite underestimating the Amiga System as such. For many ex-Amigan’s the device was mainly there as gaming console but the capabilities were incredible. When you look on intuition.library and graphics.library for example. The powers of BOOPSI (Basic Object Oriented Programming System for Intuition) and then look over to MUI as Toolkit for Widgets etc. then I must say wow. Even if you look further to CyberGraphX as graphics.library extension with all the special ARGB functions etc.
What I want to say here is that around 1992 together with BOOPSI there was quite a lot of possibilities and we had OOP concepts long before they have shown up under Linux e.g. QT or GTK+ unfortunately the people were quite pissed with the situation around Commodore that time and thus left for other solutions.
The Amiga has quite great documentation for all it’s libraries, for MUI and other things and you can write as well professional programs under it as you might be able under Windows, MacOSX, Linux etc. The architecture, framework, toolkit everything is there.
We only need to organize these things better e.g. Offering common MUI classes to developers like Toolbars, getting the remaining developers to use MUI rather than Reaction, newGUI, GadTools etc. Style their applications better in the means of KDE styling guide or the Amiga styling guide, make the stuff better organized like better translation as you might find under KDE (e.g. using common used phrases for explaining things).
If you are interested to see some Screenshots of a nice clean Desktop (MorphOS 1.4.2) you are welcome to look here:
http://www.akcaagac.com/index_desktop.html
What we need are Developers and people seriously interested in the Amiga. You can also try helping with AROS (an Open Source implementation of AmigaOS) we can benefit from your work as Developer as well e.g. writing good usable MUI classes etc.
Did peoples opinions change all of a sudden or is there a lot of new people here who are only interested in bashing others?
This place used to be about alternative and/or new technologies and real discussions. Or was I dreaming all that?
Seems like these days there’s just a bunch of win/linux guys bashing the supporters of alternative systems with really stupid arguments. I mean seriously people, computing hasn’t changed much in the past 15-20 years, it’s not like newer systems has that much to catch with to be considered “modern platforms” (whatever that is).
I’ve only tried MorphOS for a short time, but it seemed like a nice system and actually quite modern. And just because an OS is behind in certain areas doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have any advantages in others. There’s actually a lot to be learned from alternative system. And windows-users of all people should know that.
hi oGALAXYo,
I guess, you have to mention, that the foundation of OSX, Darwin, can run on wider spread of Systems as MorphOS does (today). Not to mention Linux, which runs from a watch up to a (IBM) Mainframe and is still the fasted growing OS today, on the Servers and on the desktop.
If you take away Unix from Linux, GNU will be left.
Linux is not Unix, its part of the family. Even as MorphOs is part of the AmigaOS Family, but its not AmigaOS.
QT and GTK also have a quite impressive documentation and made with a suprior quality. Also a lot of actual secondary books are avaible as a source to get into it or to get more professional.
No doubt, i’m shure its possible to write prof. Software for morphOS, especially with the GCC and the binutils. i’m shure, we will see a lot of programms going to it ported by the friends of the Pegasos to the box.
But, do this programms, if using new technology as offered by MorphOs can be easily ported to AmigaOS 4 ?
is this a potential risk in this small, very small, absolutly small, community of Amigaians ?
Or are the stuck in using old – things due to compatibility things ? I mean, if they want to be shure, that it runs on MorphOs and AmigaOs, make it for the 68K and an older AmigaOS ?
Is it possible to port programms easily from morphOs to linux, BSD, OSX, Windows ? or is that a onyway ticket ?
Would MorphOs sometime as Open as AROS is (when I remember well, sponsered also, with others together, by Genesi) ?
What about Java, is it still in an actual Version (at least 1.4.1) avaiable for MorphOS ? I heard, that there was something going on in the past for that.
cheers frank
“Is it possible to port programms easily from morphOs to linux, BSD, OSX, Windows ? or is that a onyway ticket ?”
There is a long history of programs written for AmigaOS being ported to Windows or Linux. They lose a bit, because these OSes don’t have all the features of AmigaOS, but they sell much better (at least on Windows).
Examples include Lightwave, WinImages, Directory Opus, TVPaint (Aura), Pagestream..
“But, do this programms, if using new technology as offered by MorphOs can be easily ported to AmigaOS 4 ?”
Hard to say. We will see when AmigaOS 4 will out one day.
“is this a potential risk in this small, very small, absolutly small, community of Amigaians ? ”
I dont think so. First AmigaOS 4 has to be as good as MorphOS or even better. Than it could be a potential risk maybe. AmigaOS 4 is at least one year behind MorphOS.
Did you born stupid or does it take a lot of work to deliberately understand wrong? Anyway, here goes to all you trollers out there:
3D-support is not a new feature in MorphOS 1.5, MOS has had 3D-support for a long time. 3D-support for _Radeon_ cards is a new feature. MOS has also had a 2D-support for Radeon cards for a long time.
Was that clear enough for you, or do you f*uckers still want to misunderstand?
> If you take away Unix from Linux, GNU will be left. Linux
> is not Unix, its part of the family. Even as MorphOs is
> part of the AmigaOS Family, but its not AmigaOS.
Hello Frank. I know the Linux World pretty well. I’ve been maintaining an 2.6.x SCSI driver together with some peeps and also used to work under/for other things such as GNOME. There is no need to educate me about Linux, GNU, Open Source and Free Software. I spent the past 8 years on it and still am. By the way GNU, Open Source and Free Software are not limited to Linux, BSD, Darwin etc. They are a philosophy. RMS for example hypes Free Software and not Open Source which for him is a big difference. We on MorphOS do have and use Open Source as well as Free Software.
> But, do this programms, if using new technology as offered
> by MorphOS can be easily ported to AmigaOS4 ?
Sure if AmigaOS4 can keep up their compatibility with MorphOS. At least the majority of things are compatible with AROS and MorphOS and things can (hopefully) easily be ported across them. AmigaOS4 is in no position to set defacto standards it’s just another interpretation of the AmigaOS.
The AmigaOS is and stays the one we knew from Commodore everything afterwards are just interpretations to go on with it in one direction. So if you ask for compatibility then we should talk about compatibility to the old stuff and yes MorphOS offers a quite complete 3.1 compatibility. But given this, we also need to look over the plate and look into the future and the future is unknown. There will be AmigaOS4 only applications, there will be MorphOS only application, there will be support across these architectures.
> is this a potential risk in this small, very small,
> absolutly small, community of Amigaians ?
Well there are a bunch of total zealots who live in their own world who make a lot of mess around this but most likely not. There is no risk – it’s exactly the oposite. A chance to go on with the Amiga spirit in the right direction.
> Or are they stuck in using old – things due to
> compatibility things ? I mean, if they want to be shure,
> that it runs on MorphOS and AmigaOS, make it for the 68K
> and an older AmigaOS ?
Actually I can’t speak about the plans for MorphOS itself since I am not part of the developer team. I am not representing MorphOS. I am just a user and developer of my own stuff and have a fine relationship with the developers (who are quite friendly, helpful and very nice persons).
You need to change your views here: You shouldn’t ask whether it stays compatible forever. You need to ask where will it go ? Right now 3.1 API compatibility is given, MorphOS can emulate 68k programs through it’s JIT (normal Systemfriendly programs are meant by this). It also runs native programs written in PPC code. But one day it has to go other ways too – not alone because due it’s iterative development process, improvements, fixes, upgrades, expansions etc. This is the same way Apple went with their System many years ago (at least I do compare it that way). It’s needed to go out of the stagnation and problems and go on and modernize things. The same argument is valid for AmigaOS4, MorphOS and AROS.
> Is it possible to port programms easily from MorphOS to
> Linux, BSD, OSX, Windows ? or is that a onyway ticket ?
Yes, the same way it is possible to port Windows stuff to Linux, QNX to Linux, MacOSX stuff to Linux etc. It’s called teamwork and good software engineering. We do have VIM on MorphOS (which I brought to MorphOS), we have MPlayer, … to name a few here and these things also exists on other architectures. What I for my own am trying is to use the good bits from the known Open Source and Free Software world and make them usable for myself and others (oh there is also freetype.library, z.library, png.library, SDL, OpenGL and so on, TrueType fonts …). So it’s no problem writing OpenGL or SDL apps and have them port to Linux or Windows (as long as the framework exists). Also cooperation with other Open Source projects are necessary so people can add e.g. a MUI GUI to Kopete and use Kopete on MorphOS (only an example). Same with other projects. It all matters about cooperation, teamwork, getting rid of the tunnelview etc. But something I personally really dislike to see on MorphOS is GTK+, QT or other things because they make no sense there. I for my own want to stay independant of them. If someone needs to port stuff, then he should do it properly and use the own ToolKit for this which guarantees that the Software looks, behaves and feels the same.
> Would MorphOS sometime as Open as AROS is (when I remember
> well, sponsered also, with others together, by Genesi) ?
Dunno but I hope NOT. Open Source has advantages as well as disadvantages. And a big disadvantage would be that more cooks start spitting in the soup or incapable developers join the team and mess around in things and last but not least forks and all the exuberantly growing stuff. Well I think the current MorphOS team is quite competent, they know their job, they have a clear vision and let them do the job. It’s theirs.
> What about Java, is it still in an actual Version (at
> least 1.4.1) avaiable for MorphOS ? I heard, that there
> was something going on in the past for that.
Yes I heard the same. Can’t say if this is the case but if you need JAVA then why don’t you help the JAMIGA team to improve it ? We all can benefit from this.
Glad you have found a new home(MorphOS) oGALAXYo. Now you can put your talents to constructive use-I am sure that MorphOS will proft from your talents. It is far better to have a channel to constructively use your talents than to waste your time and energy fighting GNOME. Good luck…
Did anyone actually try to watch that video? It seems to be broken.
“Did anyone actually try to watch that video? It seems to be broken.”
Works fine in MPlayer.
Ok, it seems to be encoded with a rather strange codec. I had to let ffdshow handle all of the codecs it offers, now it’s working.
Even vlc didn’t know what to do with it (that’s a 1st!)
Hi Don, you wrote
“Is it possible to port programms easily from morphOs to linux, BSD, OSX, Windows ? or is that a onyway ticket ?”
There is a long history of programs written for AmigaOS being ported to Windows or Linux. They lose a bit, because these OSes don’t have all the features of AmigaOS, but they sell much better (at least on Windows).
Examples include Lightwave, WinImages, Directory Opus, TVPaint (Aura), Pagestream..”
Do I understand it right when I guess these are very old Applications mentioned by you ?
I never heard about this applications, not on MacOS, MacOSX or Linux (sorry, I don’t know Windows, I just use it at work to access Solaris Servers…. but no interesst at all for MS-Windows).
could you say a little bit more about the features that are so extraordinary to the modern amigaOS (and morphOS, I guess) compared to modern operatings systems (inkl. GUI, which is not neccessarly part of an OS) today ?
cheers Frank
> Do I understand it right when I guess these are very old
> Applications mentioned by you ?
Old applications doesn’t necessarily mean bad applications. A bunch of these programs were used in commercial Movies and other stuff the days back when Amiga was still kicking and they are still being maintained and still being worked on. Even if their creators decided to move onwards to Windows. Only use google and find out.
> could you say a little bit more about the features that
> are so extraordinary to the modern amigaOS (and morphOS,
> I guess) compared to modern operatings systems (inkl. GUI,
> which is not neccessarly part of an OS) today ?
AmigaOS is not a new Operating System. It is an Operating System invented way back in the middle-end 80’s but it still has many features which searches it’s kind on other places.
Let’s look forward to the modern Operating System like Linux. Is it modern ? No it still has it’s ancestors laying back in the good old Unix system evern if it’s written from scratch by Santa Claus and the Tooth Feary.
But the AmigaOS (let’s use it as global definition for MorphOS, AROS and AmigaOS) has a lot of things done years back, which you see now showing up on Linux for example.
E.g. AmigaOS allows you to customize your Hardware on the Desktop with a configuration program. You can directly alter the Hardware stuff. You can’t do this on Linux and GoneME or KDE for example. There are now approaches through udev/hal/dbus to reach this goal. e.g. hiding the entire console and complicated settings under the hood and have the user do all these things on their Desktop. Now what GoneME and KDE tries nowadays was already there years ago on AmigaOS.
Another thing the spatial aspect of Nautilus which is highly hyped these days as revolutionary. Sadly it’s not as revolutionary as they think because it has it’s ancestors found way back in the 80’s Apple and Commodore.
You see even modern Operating Systems does copy the stuff found back in the 80’s which implies that the so called modern Operating Systems aren’t that modern in first case. Over the past 10-20 years things have been throughly copied, forgotten, found again, implemented, changed, altered but the principles are the same.
The good things about AmigaOS is it’s concepts as Kernel+Desktop solution in one which makes it a quite small Operating System, a slick Operating System and a responsive Operating System. On Linux you still suffer on loading the Kernel, then your XServer and then ontop your Desktop solution. All this loaded is quite resource hungry and you still need to get an interface from bottom Kernel to your Desktop to do the tasks you want and configure stuff or plugin your USB stick and read the Data off of it.
Not to mention that I think that MorphOS is already ahead of one highly religious prayed Desktop solution on Linux (no it’s not KDE). AmigaOS offers a nice DataType component system which can be seen similar to a Mime Handler system. you only write a new DataType for format XYZ install it on your system and have your program load it without even knowing it’s type. With that way it’s easy to write PNG, JPEG, TIFF, WORD, EXCEL, POSTSCRIPT, PDF and even Audioformat plugins that you can use. e.g. direct loading of ARGB images from an image file to your Application.
Even we have some disadvantages of many different Toolkits but we are working hard to convince people to start using MUI (an BOOPSI Object Oriented Toolkit) which was created in the early 90’s and still is happily being improved more and more. It has a nice classes system where you can write custom classes and have them seamles embed (Plugins like). So it’s always possible to scratch an Toolbar class and write a new one even more powerful.
And no the libraries used there are not immature or something there are a lot of stuff very well valued and weighted and improved. What requires is users and developers who are willing to understand the bottom framework and use it throughly.
Want to do XML stuff no problem with the libXML2 port, want to do SDL, no problem. Commodore’s bancrupty and the stagnation over the past years doesn’t make the OS itself a bad OS but people always want to be feed with fresh stuff that’s why most people moved away.
Well, calm down now… No need to talk like that.
You don’t realy think that supporting _Radeon_ 7000/7200/7500 in 3D is something to be proud of? I KNOW that MOS support 3D, but the «new» hardware supported is old by today standard.
Tell me that MOS support _Radeon_ 9600,9800 or GForce 5700 or better, now that’s good news. Same thing for other hardware. Until then, MOS is just a nice OS for Amiga Fan running older hardware. Still it’s nice to see that 1.5 will support G4 Altivec.
And no, it’s not possible here in Quebec (Canada) to see MOS running because no one show or sell this kind of hardware/software.
@ArKay
Use the QuickTime Player.
Hi oGALAXyo,
so, whats your answer to “Same question could be asked for Linux, what remains if you take away Unix compatibility ? ” ?
I know that you were involved in Gnome, so it would be nice to hear your answer to your question.It was your question.
“Yes, the same way it is possible to port Windows stuff to Linux, QNX to Linux, MacOSX stuff to Linux etc. It’s called teamwork and good software engineering.”
Oh, common, thats always true, how is it supported ?
How is it make costefficient, nice to handle, in other words, is there a Framework to support this ?
“Well there are a bunch of total zealots who live in their own world who make a lot of mess around this but most likely not. There is no risk – it’s exactly the oposite. A chance to go on with the Amiga spirit in the right direction. ”
Said the MorphOS-Programmer to the AmigaOS-Programmer. Each risk is a Chance. But taking the “huge” marketshare, it there realy no risk ? Would it be better to make SW to AmigaOS 3.1 because it runs on both ? So there is not risk to split the mini-marketshare to become unattractive for developers ? Yes, each risk is a chance. Its possible to jump from a skyscraper, there is a risk to die, there is a chance to survive.
“This is the same way Apple went with their System many years ago (at least I do compare it that way). ”
You know, that Apple is kicking support for MacOS 9 away.
Its over, its obsolet. You can use in the Classic Box, but customers are stressed to switch to OSX. The OS9 Support team within Apple was decreased to a minimum. Its just a question of time that apple will close it.
“Yes I heard the same. Can’t say if this is the case but if you need JAVA then why don’t you help the JAMIGA team to improve it ? We all can benefit from this.”
Thats a good Idea, but unfurtonaltly, the gcj is avaible, java is avaiable, jikes is avaible, I don’t like to be part of a reinvention of the wheel for a road well known, also spent my sparetime for a closed Software (java. I like it, but as long as it is not opensource, Sun have to make the doing by themselves (and IBM would reengineer it for their JDK, also for the PPC) , in line with the JCP) My question was, more precisely, I heard that there was some thougths to licence Java from Sun and by this way to get a full Java Support from Sun (something like Apple has done from Sun), whats happened to that ? Abandoned ? To Expansive = I don’t know….
BTW, having QT and GTK on pegasos would be an huge improvement, especially QT. this would open morphos to a huge world of modern applications. And would make it easily to develop portable applications in an easy way, from a Palmsize-handheld upto Dekstops.
But anyway, I will watch it with interesst.
Cheers Frank
Congrats MOS users!!!
IMO 3D hardware acceleration is a huge feat to undertake. Having this feature will push the Amiga platform to todays standards.
“And no, it’s not possible here in Quebec (Canada) to see MOS running because no one show or sell this kind of hardware/software.”
http://www.pegasos-quebec.com/
http://www.ultraspec-canada.com/
“Tell me that MOS support _Radeon_ 9600,9800 or GForce 5700 or better, now that’s good news.”
Well, for MorphOS User is this a good news. One step after the next. I believe we will get also 3D drivers for 9600 or 9800 models.
@Klaus Dir
http://www.pegasos-quebec.com/
Site is down. Is it ever been up?
http://www.ultraspec-canada.com/
It’s an American outfit. You gotta pay for the duty fees because your mobo comes from the USA.
> Is there realy no risk ? Would it be better to make SW to
> AmigaOS 3.1 because it runs on both ?
I don’t see your point here. The first thing you need to make sure is that you are in no competition with other projects. This makes development easier because you can be creative. Then it depends on the people using the software. Risk is everywhere even when you wake up in the morning and figure out that the Tooth Feary has stolen all your teeth
> So there is not risk to split the mini-marketshare to
> become unattractive for developers ?
Well with the Pegasos II and MorphOS and all the other possible to run Operating Systems the System is quite attractive for the Developers. You buy a PowerPC hardware which is CHEAP, which can use common PCI/AGP components, which on it’s own (The Motherboard) offers a lot of expansion and interfaces and the nice MorphOS System ontop of it. If you dislike MorphOS you can install Linux on it. No risk at all. Risk would be if you buy an old Amiga 4000 Tower and expand it with expensive overpriced 3rd party hardware and figure out the junk doesn’t really work as you intend it to work. Risk can also be buying a Laptop and figure out that you need to unplug the PS/2 Mouse to have it boot properly into Windows and then have the PS/2 Mouse plug back so you can use it.
> You know, that Apple is kicking support for MacOS 9 away.
> Its over, its obsolet. You can use in the Classic Box, but
> customers are stressed to switch to OSX. The OS9 Support
> team within Apple was decreased to a minimum. Its just a
> question of time that apple will close it.
Yeah but you know that there are volunteers working on MorphOS yes ? Want to hire them and pay them fulltime then yes you might see such solutions too but you need to set priorities. And thats definately MorphOS 1.5 now as I see it.
> Thats a good Idea, but unfurtonaltly, the gcj is avaible,
> java is avaiable, jikes is avaible
We can use gcj too. No problem. Java shouldn’t be a problem too if it was Open Source (and luckely isn’t).
> I don’t like to be part of a reinvention of the wheel for
> a road well known, also spent my sparetime for a closed
> Software.
Excuse me re-invention ? You are re-inventing everything every day my friend. You are dealing with more re-inventations on Linux as on any other Operating System. But on Open Source and Linux it’s called ‘freedom’ and ‘forks’. So please let the MorphOS team their freedom to do what they want and that’s working on MorphOS.
You say that it would be better to work on software for Kick 3.1 and later on you excuse yourself with re-inventions. Now what ? Workin gon the old Kick 3.1 is no progress. It’s using the same old stuff on an outdated Hardware plattform. The OS is truly good but it has to move on. Become improved, become expanded and modernized. Going away from all the Intuition and Gadtools applications over to one consistent System MUI. A speedy modern Hardware architecture where applications react in quite nice times. Where you see a nice chance to fix some mistakes that might been in the OS and to improve it. Going into the future doesn’t mean you keep on freaking around. It means going forward.
> I heard that there was some thougths to licence Java from
> Sun and by this way to get a full Java Support from Sun
> (something like Apple has done from Sun), whats happened
> to that ? Abandoned ? To Expansive = I don’t know….
I don’t know anything about this but it would be nice if this is the case. If not then why bother. Java is not everything and not having Java doesn’t make MorphOS a bad Operating System. It then simply doesn’t have Java and most of us can happily live with that fact.
> BTW, having QT and GTK on pegasos would be an huge
> improvement, especially QT. this would open morphos to a
> huge world of modern applications. And would make it
> easily to develop portable applications in an easy way,
> from a Palmsize-handheld upto Dekstops.
Depends on the views. First of all you need to understand that MorphOS is NOT YET AGAIN another Linux OS. The API is quite a different one and the entire philosophy is a different one as well. I doubt you have such a huge benefit from getting QT or GTK and why the hell does it have to be QT and GTK what’s so special around them to make it become a MUST have ? If you want to run QT or GTK then you’d better off using a common Linux distribution under Pegasos and be happy with it. People that work on MorphOS and people that use MorphOS want MorphOS. And the same is valid for AmigaOS as well as AROS, QNX, Apple it has been a reason why these Systems are invented and why people keep staying towards it and holding it’s hand on it because they believe in that System and because they feel identified with that. If I’d port GTK to MorphOS then it would make it yet another Linux System with some boring interface on it and that’s what ? The entire computer world doesn’t turn around GTK or QT only there are also other nice things to be found on other worlds and other philosophies. That’s what you need to understand. Sure if you want to use some nice GTK programs (are there any ? Ok there are plenty QT ones) then you should try to hook up with their developers and port the Application correctly to your System. That is trying to port it with ixemul (then later with libnix) and start writing a native MUI gui for it and have your program respond, feel and interact like it was written for your System.
MorphOS has come a long way, and is continuing to be developed.
I think this is a great milestone, and MorphOS users must be VERY happy with it.
I guess some people just don’t understand the amount of work and testing it takes to release a stable OS, and drivers, and that each added feature means A LOT more testing and work than it might appear on the surface.
This release has caused me to consider, even more seriously the purchase of a Pegasos II motherboard.
I wish this would run on a PowerMac, as I have several that would run this nicely, that are already well loaded and quite paid for…
Maybe we’ll see such a port in the future..
and I still can’t watch the video.
Try mplayer with the all-in-one codec pack.
http://ftp3.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20040427…
A couple of benefits of the Amiga family of operating systems are:
The ability to list files in a directory using the ‘list’ command or delete a file using the ‘delete’ command. Even though its shorter, typing ‘ls’ just doesn’t seem right, and Windows Explorer just seems to be getting slower and slower.
An almost (‘soft’) real time operating system. How many of todays mainstream os’s can say that?
If anyone is interested I recommend you check out the following link for more information:
http://ros.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?BestFeatures
Obviously, I wouldn’t recommend any Amiga OS to run your high-volume web server or office applications, but it is (even after 15 plus years) a wonderful operating system.
Why is everything bad that doesnt run on x86, doesnt use the latest hardware, doesnt have tons of apps and isnt windows? Can you people imagine that there are many humans outside with different tastes? Or do we drive all the same car or eat the same food? Luckily not. Isnt computing something called fun? If they have fun with this system why do bother them? Everyone can choose the system he likes and have fun with.
“You don’t realy think that supporting _Radeon_ 7000/7200/7500 in 3D is something to be proud of?
Tell me that MOS support _Radeon_ 9600,9800 or GForce 5700 or better, now that’s good news.”
Not that it’s even being touted as such but I’m sure it’d be big news to some.. See not everyone upgrades to the latest video cards and cpu to become top fragger, especially not those interested in AmigaOS4 or MorphOS at the moment, there’s better things to do.
I’d also be inclined to buy a slightly older Radeon for the option to run fanless so it suits me fine.
Reeelaaaax. I said it because its true; the fact that MorphOS is only now supporting aging technology that’s several generations back isn’t very interesting. Its like, “ooh, we’ve got a filesystem that lets you do a ‘copy’ command now!” Basic stuff. Shifting baselines, my man! I mean, interesting is that you support the latest and greatest, you know? I’d hate to try and do 3d modelling on a 7x series. ;(
I’m sorry for having an opinion, though.
@Troll comments – FYI, my STR is only 21, so I have Troll-like STR, not to be mistaken with being a Troll. Wanna check my sheet?!
(Quoted from DJBase)
>Why is everything bad that doesnt run on x86, doesnt use
>the latest hardware, doesnt have tons of apps and isnt
>windows? Can you people imagine that there are many humans
>outside with different tastes? Or do we drive all the same
>car or eat the same food? Luckily not. Isnt computing
>something called fun? If they have fun with this system
>why do bother them? Everyone can choose the system he
>likes and have fun with.
I agree. To each his own, happily
–EyeAm
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“!Reeelaaaax. I said it because its true; the fact that MorphOS is only now supporting aging technology that’s several generations back isn’t very interesting. Its like, “ooh, we’ve got a filesystem that lets you do a ‘copy’ command now!” Basic stuff. Shifting baselines, my man! I mean, interesting is that you support the latest and greatest, you know? I’d hate to try and do 3d modelling on a 7x series. ;(”
Every new System needs some basics first.
Come on now! What type of an idiot would waste money on the latest and gratest hardware? Unles you are a hardcore gamer there is no good reson to do that.
Besides, if an amiga can run well on hardware thats well over 10 years old, how fast do you think it will be on 3 years old hardware?
“If you take away Unix from Linux, GNU will be left”
What on earth does that mean? That really is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen written in the English language. Unless it’s some very subtle pun or play on words, I kindly recomment that you avoid trying to construct such sentences again.
I mean, come on.
You can’t take away UNIX from Linux, because there is no UNIX in Linux. And if you took away UNIX-like design, you’d be left with a POSIX-like kernel. And Linux isn’t an official part of the GNU Project, so no GNU could be left.
“Dunno but I hope NOT. Open Source has advantages as well as disadvantages … developers join the team and mess around in things and last but not least forks”
“You are dealing with more re-inventations on Linux as on any other Operating System. But on Open Source and Linux it’s called ‘freedom’ and ‘forks’.”
Yeah, I mean, look at all the big open source projects that have been plagued by forks: KDE, GNOME, Mozilla, OpenOffice.org, GCC, glibc, the Linux kernel, Scribus, GAIM, etc. etc. etc.
It’s terrible how people are forking these left, right and center. You must be totally right in every way.
*Sigh*
Really oGALAXYo, that slur about open source / Free Software was dead a few years ago; there’s no need to repeat it now. Without exaggeration, 98-99% of all open source projects don’t get forked. And the bigger they are, the less chance — look at the list I gave above.
For every project you name that has forked, I can name at least ten that haven’t. So it’s a redundant argument.
“Examples include Lightwave, WinImages, Directory Opus, TVPaint (Aura), Pagestream..”
Do I understand it right when I guess these are very old Applications mentioned by you ?
I never heard about these applications, not on MacOS, MacOSX or Linux (sorry, I don’t know Windows, I just use it at work to access Solaris Servers…. but no interest at all for MS-Windows).”
These are all current programs on Windows. Lightwave and Pagestream are also on Mac. Pagestream is in beta for Linux.
Don’t tell me you have never heard of Lightwave.
However, I don’t think porting is very important. IMO the best GUI-based programs are made for specific operating systems and hardware. Non-GUI programs such as MySQL are a different matter and can be recompiled fairly easily for any platform.
Hi people
If someone is interrested to see more pictures and some more small videos from the PUSH event, its available from here;
http://www.pegasos.org <— Klick on the link !
And yes, everything regarding Pegasos is not only about MorphOS, but also about the Open Desktop Workstation, based on the Pegasos II. However MorphOS is very promising !
Regards
Gunne