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“no mac made ships with sound capable of doing 5.1 surround sound natively. NONE. check it out. Thats why apple recommends the logitech z-680 set for the g5 towers—it has a decoder built into the speakers. Doh.”
Then how come I compose soundtracks in 5.1 surround sound on my TiBook? I think you are confusing default speakers with capability.
“dvd players do support discs burnt with both + and – discs. The most comprehensive study done to date showed the – standard to be about 2% better at compatability on a host of standalone players…94% to 92% success rate if I remember correctly.”
I do that for a living. I know what works and what doesn’t. + support is very flawed because – is the industry standard, and is what commercially produced DVDs are prototyped on (the ones that don’t use DLT).
“You are a poor net citizen if you operate without a firewall and anti-virus software. Who know how you infest the world. You could be running a spam relay and not even know it. Be mature and help the world.”
Actually I can monitor and know that I’m not running a spam relay. I know for a fact that I don’t have any viruses. And I see no reason to spend my time and resources stopping the spread of viruses that don’t effect me.
“Your accuracy leaves your veracity at ZERO.”
Your pseudo intelligence show how you are commenting on a profession you know little about. If you want to talk DVD specs, go ahead, but I get the feeling that of the two of us, I’m the one sitting here staring at a $15,000 DLT tranfer deck, and you aren’t.
what are you on?
because you can create 5.1 sound capable media doesn’t mean you have the ability to play it back in 5.1.
you make stuff up and it holds no truth.
again, not one mac made by apple computer is capable of natively playing back media in 5.1 surround sound (or anything above that for that matter)
even 3000 dollar dual g5 powermacs need to have speakers with a hardware decoder built in.
if you are so sure of yourself, show me one document or kb article on apples site that details 5.1 playback ability.
til then you can spread your misinformation and others will clean up after you.
but guess what, pick things to write that can’t be verified…like opinions or your purported ownership of expensive equipment, cause as soon as you throw out utter hogwash we will expose it.
macs dont do 5.1 sound natively. end of story.
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Articles/Specific.asp?ArticleHeadli…
both – and + are standards represented by major electronics firms on both sides. – was first to market and had a head start.
+ now sells better.
from last july the above site showed – to be better by about 9% in stand alone dvd players and dvd-rom drives.
to say + support is flawed when a grab bag of media worked in a grab bag of assorted players to the tune of an 88% success rate, you are misleading people. newere dvd-rom drives and standalone dvd players have even better success rates now that + is the number one selling format.
try again.
the real point though about having a dual format drive is that you can test in your environment and use whatever is best. if both work equally well for you, you have the choice to buy whatever media is best priced when shopping.
choice is good. don’t get locked into proprietary apple solutions.
to get 5.1 you need a g5 mac running 10.3 with optical out.
or you can buy an add on card or some sort of usb/firewire solution if they are made and at what cost?
and as they sell on their own site you have to have an external decoder and hence they sell the logitech z-680 speakers with built in decoder:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?product…
full tech specs for the g5’s
http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html
nowhere does it say it does 5.1 with onboard an decoder card. don’t ya think they would mention that nice feature if it was built in? hehe. yeah i do.
note in audio section it does list the fine logitech z-680 speakers that retail at $299. great speakers, but on a PC with an onboard decoder card (the $609 emachines above) you can buy 5.1 speakers that cost substantially less as they dont also have to have a decoder card built in with the amp.
wrong yet again.
“Actually I can monitor and know that I’m not running a spam relay. I know for a fact that I don’t have any viruses. And I see no reason to spend my time and resources stopping the spread of viruses that don’t effect me.”
you are just a master of network administration i am sure. you know so much and are so on top of your network and connections to the net yet you could care less unless something affects you. that ranks right up there at the bottom of
mighty selfish and self-centered. the typical mac user? i hope you aren’t my neighbor.
“because you can create 5.1 sound capable media doesn’t mean you have the ability to play it back in 5.1.”
How would you know what you were doing if you couldn’t play it back?
“again, not one mac made by apple computer is capable of natively playing back media in 5.1 surround sound (or anything above that for that matter)
even 3000 dollar dual g5 powermacs need to have speakers with a hardware decoder built in.”
Haven’t seen many USB sound systems, huh?
“but guess what, pick things to write that can’t be verified…like opinions or your purported ownership of expensive equipment, cause as soon as you throw out utter hogwash we will expose it.”
Cocky now, eh. You have yet to prove anything I’ve said wrong. Don’t get ahead of yourself.
“macs dont do 5.1 sound natively. end of story.”
Again, look into USB. Amazing stuff it is.
“you are off on the dvd – + issue too
both – and + are standards represented by major electronics firms on both sides. – was first to market and had a head start.
+ now sells better.
from last july the above site showed – to be better by about 9% in stand alone dvd players and dvd-rom drives.”
I said they don’t support both, so what was the point. Look at that research you pointed to, and notice they are showing the current production models, not the ones people already have been buying for the past few years.
“to say + support is flawed when a grab bag of media worked in a grab bag of assorted players to the tune of an 88% success rate, you are misleading people. newere dvd-rom drives and standalone dvd players have even better success rates now that + is the number one selling format.”
Calling it flawed wasn’t about player compatibility, it was about standards compatibility. + discs do not support the same features as -, features that are industry standard, which is why prototypes are done with -, not +.
“the real point though about having a dual format drive is that you can test in your environment and use whatever is best. if both work equally well for you, you have the choice to buy whatever media is best priced when shopping.”
That’s missing the point entirely. We aren’t talking about AAC vs WMA here, we are talking about something that at this point already has a set standard, which is -.
“choice is good. don’t get locked into proprietary apple solutions.”
Apple didn’t come up with + and – discs, and if you don’t like what they sell, buy a Mac from somewhere else that lets you change out the drive, or change it yourself, it’s not hard…I’m sure you’ve done it before.
“note on apples site
to get 5.1 you need a g5 mac running 10.3 with optical out.
or you can buy an add on card or some sort of usb/firewire solution if they are made and at what cost?
and as they sell on their own site you have to have an external decoder and hence they sell the logitech z-680 speakers with built in decoder:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?product…..
full tech specs for the g5’s
http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html
nowhere does it say it does 5.1 with onboard an decoder card. don’t ya think they would mention that nice feature if it was built in? hehe. yeah i do.”
That USB/FireWire solution is what I meantioned above. From the way you are talking it sounds like it’s not very common for PCs to use USB speakers (I don’t see many FireWire speakers…kind of overkill). There are many USB setups available, priced around that of everything else. It’s common to use them for audio production (Macs rule that market, btw), because it allows you to use a USB interface for capture and playback (capturing through a USB interface is the only way to go at this point). Doing so allows the software to control whats going on instead of the hardware. Digital audio.
“wrong yet again.”
You are still looking at hardware as the only way to work. Software is half of the equation, stop neglecting it.
“you are just a master of network administration i am sure. you know so much and are so on top of your network and connections to the net yet you could care less unless something affects you. that ranks right up there at the bottom of mighty selfish and self-centered. the typical mac user? i hope you aren’t my neighbor.”
Actually the only computers I keep on the network are Macs. I have PCs around for testing purposes (develop cross platform from a Mac). I keep the PCs off the net so I don’t have to bother with antivirus and firewall software. So, no, I don’t bother to protect other peoples compuers, that’s their responsibility, not mine. If they don’t want to deal with it they don’t have to, but I’m not going to make up for their lack of responsibility. When an OS X virus comes out, I will protect myself, but until then, why spend the exra time and resources?
I’m putting this into another post to keep things cleaned up and easy to read.
USB audio. It’s pretty much accepted that Mac rule the audio market. Don’t bother argueing that, it’s useless. I didn’t realize PC’s were still using sound cards for all their audio, I use USB for everything I do, sound wise. As do all the other Mac users setups I have worked with. I’ve never seen a PC doing any sort of professional audio production, so it never occured to me that they haven’t moved to USB, which is why I said I though everything supported surround sound at this point.
Now I’m sure you’re thinking, who cares whether it’s USB or a sound card? What’s the difference? Well allow me to explain.
The move to USB playback was started because of the professional move to USB capture. Apple caters to media professionals, there’s no question about that. And when the pros move to USB, why bother keeping everyone else on the old technology? Especially when going USB cuts the cost of the extra sound card. Now if you are recording audio, the benefits of digital are clear. A better sound, and more control. You can spend the money to go through a great sound card and a great mixer, or you can spend less and get better sound quality and greater control through a digital mixer. Recording through a sound card turns that card into a capture card, converting analog sound into a digital file. A digital mixer handles that much better than a sound card in a computer, and then it feeds the software a digital file. This allows you to do what you want with the sound, nondestructively.
So once you have you audio the way you want it, why go out through a sound card? Why not go out through USB, the way you came in? And from Apples perspective, it’s cheaper to puch USB audio than add better sound cards that won’t be used, and it will produce better quality.
usb
natively
one means built in capable
the other means buy something else and plug it in to make it work
as i said no mac made does 5.1 natively. not even a 3k powermac dual g5. you have to buy additional hardware and connect it to the mac in order to make it happen.
if you encounter words you are unfamiliar with, look em up. it will help prevent you from looking so foolish.
What, other than speakers, must you buy? You don’t need a mixer or anything. Look up how they work. There is no additional hardware to buy (save the speaker, of course), and no software or drivers to install. What, is USB not native on your setup?
do not make a hardware 5.1 decoder
you have to plug in a decoder!
read what i wrote and go to apples site.
the logitech speakers mentioned for the g5 that connect via optical cable not usb have a hardware decoder built into the subwoofer.
they are not just speakers. they have an amp. it has a hardware decoder.
if you bought plain 5.1 speakers then the mac would not play in 5.1.
your ignorance is amazing for someone that claims to know something.
you know absolutely nothing.
macs have a sound card, its just on the motherboard and not occupying a pci slot. its called integrated. and all mac sound cards are incapable of doing 5.1 natively.
you need to give it up. you are an utter poser.
Do you not read up on anything? Of course USB ports aren’t decoders. I didn’t say they were. They don’t need to be.
Every surround sound system will have an amp, of course (speakers don’t power themselves). The amp is usually part of the sub woofer. With a USB setup, the software takes the place of a hardware decoder, and sends the signal via USB to the sub, which then send it out to everything else. It has nothing to do with those Logitech speakers, or with buying any extra hardware. Software is the key here, not hardware. How many times must you hear that? I suppose you still use hardware based MPEG encoders, too?
“you need to give it up. you are an utter poser.”
Really, because you seem to have given up on everything other point without disproving anything I’ve said, or proving anything you’ve said.