A Swedish upstart is challenging Microsoft in the database arena by making use of the same low-end assault tactics that the software giant employed to gain a foothold. MySQL also released clustering software today.
MySQL takes Cue from the Master
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We have a ton of these fancy server applications and we have Moores Law working in our favor, why not make Apache and PostGRE or MySQL an integral part of the OS. Maybe a LAMP distribution?
When I did a default install of MEPIS Linux it had Apache, MySQL, Java and PHP installed and configured; didn’t have to do anything to set it up.
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Thats what almost every distro does
So does Sun Linux on cobalt server appliances…
Now, if only MySQL was free software!
When is MySql 4.1 shipping? Its seems like its been over a year since 4.0. Stop bragging and finish the product.
Also when is PostGRE shipping a windows port? Our product needs to support both windows and Linux. Without a featured windows port PostGRE isn’t really pushing MySql to hurry up.
I’m surprised MySQL has survived this long w/o an implementation of stored procedures. Until it has that ability, it simply isn’t even on the radar for any type of serious consideration. And please god give us a decent implementation of server side cursors (if that’s even possible).
Version 5.0 added stored procedures, so it is in the development tree.
It is free, as long as your app. is free.
Quote from their FAQ:
“Q: Is MySQL Cluster available under a Dual License – Commercial and Open Source GPL?
A: Yes, all MySQL products are available under Dual License. The Commercial License is available for those organizations that do not want to be restricted by the terms of the GPL. MySQL AB provides Support and Services to Commercial License customers.
Q: When is MySQL Cluster expected to be available?
A: MySQL Cluster will be announced at this year’s MySQL Users Conference and Expo, April 14-16, 2004. Download Availability is expected in April 2004. Commercial Availability is expected in Q3 2004.”
I’m talking about things like WinFS and a mix of Mono Apache for standardized administration tools. Yes, distros ship with databases but how many of them require them?
Whos to say that the MySQL company doesnt get bought out one day and gets liquidated by Microsoft, Oracle or IBM because of the threat MySQL poses.
Oh, wow. I see what you mean. Still, its hard to imagine what particular benefit there is to integrating MySQL that closly into an OS. Modern filesystems like ReiserFS are getting pretty database like already, and keeping everything in config files has the advantage that one doesn’t need to learn SQL syntax to manually edit configuration.
— “Whos to say that the MySQL company doesnt get bought out one day and gets liquidated by Microsoft, Oracle or IBM because of the threat MySQL poses.”
They are welcome to buy it, but since MySQL is already released under the GPL, it will continue to be. Once code is released under GPL, it cannot be taken back.
Yes, but wouldnt MS, Oracle, IBM or whomever aquires MySQL just put sticks in the spokes or find a descreet way of abandoning furthur development / innovation on the product, leaving the current MySQL developers up the creek.
Our company is hesitant in using MySQL for this reason.
Yes, but wouldnt MS, Oracle, IBM or whomever aquires MySQL just put sticks in the spokes or find a descreet way of abandoning furthur development / innovation on the product, leaving the current MySQL developers up the creek.
Our company is hesitant in using MySQL for this reason.
That is the beauty of open-source : the only way to kill the software is by making sure there’s nobody interested in developping it anymore. Judging by the huge amount of peoples who use MySQL, that’s not likely to happen very soon. If MySQL (the company) goes away, a lot of peoples will pick up the developpment and maintenance of the code. This is a warranty that you don’t have with closed-source software from small vendors – if they go away, you might be left with dead software.
That is the beauty of open-source : the only way to kill the software is by making sure there’s nobody interested in developping it anymore. Judging by the huge amount of peoples who use MySQL, that’s not likely to happen very soon. If MySQL (the company) goes away, a lot of peoples will pick up the developpment and maintenance of the code. This is a warranty that you don’t have with closed-source software from small vendors – if they go away, you might be left with dead software.
Seriously that is rather the problem with it. Because MySQL AB is the guys who get things together in the end and what will happen is that the tree will split and you will see new, even more restricted, source trees of MySQL. The result will be that developer base will shrink since they divide into different trees and voilá… suddenly PG or Firebird is the better option (isn’t it already?).
MySQL probably wants to get bought out… being swedish and all, what companies generally do here is build some hype and value and let some big yankee buy it all, same will happen with MySQL.
When I saw Microsoft referred to as “the Master”, it reminded me of Obi-Wan’s response when Darth Vader claimed to be the master. 🙂
“… suddenly PG or Firebird is the better option (isn’t it already?). ”
Funny you should mention Firebird; at one time, it was a proprietary package (Borland something…. interbase?). Borland released the source, and a community has formed under it. They’re all developing on the same project; no forks.
Similarly, if MySQL were sold, there would be a LOT of OSS developers who came up from under it and developed on it. The only reason that isn’t happening right now is because no one wants the free product to be any different from the supported product; forking would take away the option of switching from the free version to the supported version without installing new software.
Of course, if the supported version were liquidated, the community would most likely keep just one version of the software in development. Also, there may well be another company that decides to dual-liscence the free product, if they can work out a compatible liscence.
The Linux kernel itself has no major forks. No one wants to shred software like that. It’d make for a lot of duplicated work.
Version 5.0 added stored procedures, so it is in the development tree.
You can use the “MaxDB by MySQL” (GPL) to have that and many, many more. This is a SAP certified Open Source product.
(Read this web page)
http://www.mysql.com/products/maxdb/
This is / was a bigger news than clustering capability.