we do care a lot cause SP2 is not only just patches but it makes a lot of changes in windows which makes it even better. & well although i don’t use winxp 64 bit or talet edition well its gonna be worth waiting ………….
we do care a lot cause SP2 is not only just patches but it makes a lot of changes in windows which makes it even better
It makes a lot of changes alright, but some people (myself included) will disagree that those changes will make Windows XP even better.
Microsoft has said that SP2 may render some applications incompatible and those programs would have to be updated. I only fear that some of my programs that are no longer actively worked on will no longer run, and there won’t be any updates for them to work with SP2.
Nope I sure don’t. No reason to get excited about security updates all bunched together. Its going to take a hell of a lot more than a service pack to make windows better.
I use Windows XP, so its vital to have the latest information about the release of products like SP2. This gives users and IT Companies enough time to schedule and prepare for upgrades and updates computers.
NinjaMonkey:Its going to take a hell of a lot more than a service pack to make windows better.
Indeed. However, as far as I’m concerned the biggest problem is the so-called computer experts who don’t know much. (And no I’m not talking about you) I’m talking about the idiots who do things like (and I choose the most obvious ones here and yes, I have seen all of these actually take place.)
1) “Fix something”, but don’t test to see if it’s actually fixed and just return it to the customer. Of course, the customer discovers that the problem isn’t fixed.
2) Advocate doing something really stupid, like sharing out your entire hard drive with full read/write access to every single file, directory, etc.
3) Dealing with a ton of software/hardware that you’ve never dealt with before and not researching it at all (just deciding in 5 minutes or so that this combination is good) and then telling a customer to purchase this stuff and then once it shows up and it doesn’t work, you blame the companies who produced the stuff.
4) One of your coworkers points out that you didn’t do something critical to make the whole thing work and you tell him to shut up, then later, when it doesn’t work you blame your coworker for not telling you about it.
5) Having no idea what you’re doing and being in possession of an instruction manual, you elect to throw the instruction manual into the trash can along with some parts (disks, CDs, or whatever) before you even look at it. All because you are an expert in “everything else that involves computers”, so this shouldn’t be too hard.
And so on and so forth… All these cases are seperate individuals and often times, I have seen multiple “computer experts” do this type of stuff. Honestly, with people like this fixing and building computers for others, and also teaching others how to do things, who needs bugs in Windows to create problems?
My greatest hope for Linux and other alternate OSs isn’t that they’ll be better than Windows, but that they will force all these people to relearn enough stuff, that they’ll actually become decent.
I’m not saying that Windows is perfect or even acceptable. I’m just saying that with “computer experts” making mistakes like what I listed, you can’t expect any operating system to do well.
I believe that it will also include new builds of core components like the kernel, compiled with their latest compiler versions which produce faster and more secure code.
I agree with many of your points. And most of them are why I cannot recommend a computer running Windows to someone with little or no computer knowledge. Users opening attachments in email, not running virus software, like you said “fixing” problems. I am not trolling here but these exact reasons are why I recommend a Macintosh to most people I know, especially ones who have no idea what they are doing. Linux is fantastic but not for most users.
You say your greatest hope for alternative OS’s is for them to be better than Windows, but they already are. Even back in the day BeOS was far superior, today OS X is years ahead of anything MS puts out, Linux is even better than Windows (but again not yet for most users). The main problem is people don’t know they have a choice. If you ask a lot of people when they think of a computer they think of Windows, they go into a store and for the most part that is all that is avilible.
Well genius, i suppose if you were using windows, or had an athlon64 you certainly would care.
we do care a lot cause SP2 is not only just patches but it makes a lot of changes in windows which makes it even better. & well although i don’t use winxp 64 bit or talet edition well its gonna be worth waiting ………….
@aditya:
we do care a lot cause SP2 is not only just patches but it makes a lot of changes in windows which makes it even better
It makes a lot of changes alright, but some people (myself included) will disagree that those changes will make Windows XP even better.
Microsoft has said that SP2 may render some applications incompatible and those programs would have to be updated. I only fear that some of my programs that are no longer actively worked on will no longer run, and there won’t be any updates for them to work with SP2.
…Cos it means I’ll be the one to update all the images and ghost all the PCs. We may only have 350 PCs to do, but that’s still work for me.
Nope I sure don’t. No reason to get excited about security updates all bunched together. Its going to take a hell of a lot more than a service pack to make windows better.
I use Windows XP, so its vital to have the latest information about the release of products like SP2. This gives users and IT Companies enough time to schedule and prepare for upgrades and updates computers.
NinjaMonkey: Its going to take a hell of a lot more than a service pack to make windows better.
Indeed. However, as far as I’m concerned the biggest problem is the so-called computer experts who don’t know much. (And no I’m not talking about you) I’m talking about the idiots who do things like (and I choose the most obvious ones here and yes, I have seen all of these actually take place.)
1) “Fix something”, but don’t test to see if it’s actually fixed and just return it to the customer. Of course, the customer discovers that the problem isn’t fixed.
2) Advocate doing something really stupid, like sharing out your entire hard drive with full read/write access to every single file, directory, etc.
3) Dealing with a ton of software/hardware that you’ve never dealt with before and not researching it at all (just deciding in 5 minutes or so that this combination is good) and then telling a customer to purchase this stuff and then once it shows up and it doesn’t work, you blame the companies who produced the stuff.
4) One of your coworkers points out that you didn’t do something critical to make the whole thing work and you tell him to shut up, then later, when it doesn’t work you blame your coworker for not telling you about it.
5) Having no idea what you’re doing and being in possession of an instruction manual, you elect to throw the instruction manual into the trash can along with some parts (disks, CDs, or whatever) before you even look at it. All because you are an expert in “everything else that involves computers”, so this shouldn’t be too hard.
And so on and so forth… All these cases are seperate individuals and often times, I have seen multiple “computer experts” do this type of stuff. Honestly, with people like this fixing and building computers for others, and also teaching others how to do things, who needs bugs in Windows to create problems?
My greatest hope for Linux and other alternate OSs isn’t that they’ll be better than Windows, but that they will force all these people to relearn enough stuff, that they’ll actually become decent.
I’m not saying that Windows is perfect or even acceptable. I’m just saying that with “computer experts” making mistakes like what I listed, you can’t expect any operating system to do well.
A friend of mine has been running the technology preview of SP2 with about 30+ apps, and has experienced no problems so far.
I believe that it will also include new builds of core components like the kernel, compiled with their latest compiler versions which produce faster and more secure code.
I agree with many of your points. And most of them are why I cannot recommend a computer running Windows to someone with little or no computer knowledge. Users opening attachments in email, not running virus software, like you said “fixing” problems. I am not trolling here but these exact reasons are why I recommend a Macintosh to most people I know, especially ones who have no idea what they are doing. Linux is fantastic but not for most users.
You say your greatest hope for alternative OS’s is for them to be better than Windows, but they already are. Even back in the day BeOS was far superior, today OS X is years ahead of anything MS puts out, Linux is even better than Windows (but again not yet for most users). The main problem is people don’t know they have a choice. If you ask a lot of people when they think of a computer they think of Windows, they go into a store and for the most part that is all that is avilible.
Does anyone use windows64 bit edition beta? And if so, do yo notice any performance gains?