“Sandwiched between these two significant business events, MandrakeSoft released Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community, an early-adopter’s release of Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official, due out in May. Even though it’s only a public beta, the newest Mandrakelinux is definitely worth the download, some rough edges notwithstanding.” Read Kurt Wall’s Mandrake Linux 10.0 CE review at LinuxPlanet.
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I continue to be amazed at the progress of Linux. My only problem with this release has been that the left-handed mouse set-up in KDE doesn’t work. I’ve had bigger problems with the high priced software offered by Apple and MS. Gnome is a perfectly fine work-around so this hardy rates as a complaint. GOOD JOB!
They all can’t get net working 😛
Mandrake has been one of the best distros for me since I started using Linux. I still remember Mandrake 8 was first distro to detect all h/w on my pc correctly and it was really visual treat for a Linux user to have Mandrak. Today also it’s excellent distro and keeps up with good work. Though you will have to accept that it’s 10.0 version has been buggy in fact very buggy. I tried it myself and had tons of probs with it. Just instead of trolling, help it make better one and report bugs:-) and I do have my net working
trolling? bah.. it’s called a joking
I even use mandrake
I wish they would make a mandrake 10 for PPC, tried installing Gentoo cause i wanted kde 3.2 and it was gosh awful hard and I still never got networking working no matter what module i loaded. mandrake makes things simple and by the end of the day thats what counts 😀
Mandrake 10 is getting a lot of positive reviews out there.
Good to see linux progress!
I’ve been using 10.0 for a couple of weeks at home and at work and while it’s fast and detected my printer, the menus are terribly decentralized and there are some niceties like the vga out that don’t work well on my dell laptop.
I’m a fan of YAST so it’s great news that they’re open sourcing it at Novell. If you believe that the stock market is any indication of the actual value of a company then it looks like Novell is out innovating Redhat right now. IBM and the following graph are proof of that.
http://ichart.yahoo.com/z?s=NOVL&t=1y&q=l&l=on&z=m&c=rhat&a=v&p=s
“If you believe that the stock market is any indication of the actual value of a company…”
Anyone who believes that has another thing coming. Anyways.. the numerical value of a company has little to do w/ how much they are “innovating”.
Sure, right up until they go out of business. Then no one cares anymore abuot how innovative they are, since they cease to exist.
9.2 works as a dream on my nforce/athlon based system. 10 refuses to find the usb, the net, among other things. I had similar experiences after installing the kernel 2.6 rpm, so now I stick with 9.2 with the 2.4mm kernel ;]
I gave up on “most” Linux distributions except possibly on Lindows and Xandros. These two are going to the right direction (sort of but not entirely). However, they need more polish. Here is a suggestion that may speed up Linux on the desktop. This is my opinion only.
Someone needs to start a version of Linux, that will work completely different and that will be a proprietary OS, closed source.
– This company will then create a new windowing system, or use the exisisting one and create its own toolkit.
– This company will also create its own desktop environment with its own shell.
– Then, it will start creating programs based on their own toolkit and as the time passes by, they will advance their toolkit and add advanced sound processing and other multi-media features.
After a while you would realise that the whole GUI is based on the same toolkit or APIs (jist like in Windows) and because this is the case, it will be easy to create self-installers and install wizards that work just like the ones found on Windows. And because there will be only one company that controls the OS, things will be very consistent across the OS. Isn’t this how Windows started?
I applogize for going off topic, I just wanted to make express my opinion.
I got problems with USB on nForce2-based motherboard too. Seems that it caused by some incompatibility with nForce2 APIC, you cen disable it in BIOS, or, in case if you’re lucky enough to get to that part of installation without mouse, you can disable it there.
Have you tried the 2.4 kernel with mdk 10? It is available as a standard RPM from the CD’s. It sounds like you are having problems with the kernel more then you are with the rest of mdk.
Just a suggestion.
-Nick
Howdy
I think your missing the point of an OS like linux, it doesn`t need to be a pale copy of windows, just have a look at Mandrake 10 this shows just how flexible this model is (and it`s from a “for profit” company too).
It`s good to see mandrake doing so well as it`s always been the easiest distro i`ve ever tried installing.
uhh.. yeah, someone did that it was called windows. it dident work out so well. j/k
Whats wrong with QT or GTK?
There own desktop? argh.. nightmares of CDE/StarOffice 5 are coming back.. nooo..
A closed source version of Linux? really.. so.. what parts of Linux(TM) would you actualy include in this version?
I really dont want windows like double click installers for Linux.. a user should NEVER install software.. right? only a admin. (my point is Linux cant be all things to all people, neither can any other OS what makes Linux so strong is the options it provides to you.. so you can make it all things for one people.. hopefully.)
But really what your talking about sorta sounds like Zeta actualy. BeOS was a nice OS so I have high hopes for Zeta. – jes some thoughts.
I’ve used Mandrake for a few years, and it has been my favourite distro up til this point. I installed 10.0 Community, but I ran into a lot of ennoying problems. It started with a black screen during the last phase of the installation (I also spent some time to figure out that CD2 was the boot CD…) Missing Java and Flash plugins for Mozilla is another problem. The worst problem I encountered was that it was not possible to boot the system after an update. At that time I gave up, and installed Lindows which works very well compared to Mandrake 10.0, especially I like the Lindows CNR.
Mandrake 10.0 Community was very fast, and I will consider trying it again when the official release is out. Until then – Lindows rules!
The reviewer claims that MDK 10 offers:
*Read/write support for the NTFS file system.
How so?
That’s some funny stuff you posted.
LMAO.
Yeah, that’s what all Linux users want. Don’t you hear us clamoring for a proprietary OS with a propietary toolkit with proprietary apps that you can only use on that distribution?
I hope you were joking.
Mandrake 10 Community cannot include java or flush plugins. It’s a testing release for those that want to live on the bleeding edge.
The official will be super stable and will include the plug-ins that you require. In fact, MDK 10 community is already shaping up quite nicely. Sure there have been a gazillion updates, but that is precisely the point of the two-stage development model.
The final should be something to behold. By the way, if any of you use crossover office you will now notice that wine applications almost open as fast as KDE ones due to the improved perfomance of the KDE 2.6 kernel.
… it’s still very nice. The problems are surely show-stoppers, so i think it possible that my ISOs were damaged. MD5s were alright though.
Among the problems i encountered:
* First boot CD is the second of the bunch. Good thing i had a trusty Debian WS for internet research available.
* Default fonts for X are not installed -> no working X Server on reboot.
* Pango isn’t configured -> no fonts in Drakconf.
The rest were tiny wee bits like the refusal of my time zone (Europe/Berlin).
Still, definitly my current recommendation for regular users desktop needs (that is they use, don’t administer their box). It surely beats Lindows 4.5, can’t say about Xandros. Nice work.
I tried Mandrake 10 Community and could not get my broadband internet connection working, no matter what I tried. Every other distro I’ve tried (Fedora, SUSE, Mepis, Lindows, etc) has no problem auto detecting; Mandrake doesn’t even see my ethernet card 🙁 Other than that Mandrake was the first distro (I believe it was 7.1 or 7.2) that I ever successfully got everything working in (sound, printer, internet, etc) so I’ve always liked it.
I tried Mandrake a few months back but didnt like it. I have ended up going with Xandros which up until recently was a fairly ok experience. Then I actually had the gall to question and criticize some things within the system and was practically blacklisted from the user forums they have there.
In Mandrake like that as well??? I’m lookin for a distro thats easy yes like windows in that sense but not like Lindows in its complete focus towards the newbie user who wont do anything other than just use whats installed.
Under Xandros I tried to install Vmware which failed and mentioned that they should include gnome as well as kde. I got a reply back from their so called tech person on the forums who just treated me like I was the spawn of satan for trying to do anything outside of Xandros apparent comfort zone.
How dare I!!!!!
So now I’m back looking for another distro. As I mentioned I tried mandrake and just didnt like it for various reaseons. I’ve also tried Suse which I felt was too similiar to Mandrake to even bother with it. I tried Slackware and Gentoo which I couldnt even begin to get installed.
So what else is there??? WHat about Mepis or Ark linux??
Sorry if this was a bit off topic I’m just very annoyed and frustrated at Xandros and much of the supposed leaders in linux communittee.
Thanks.
One of the things I really don’t like about MDK is, that they tweak KDE to death (or to bad)! For ex. take this butt-ugly star they use for the K-menu, and no way to get rid of it… Ok, deleting the icons from ‘/usr/share/icons/…’ is a solution, but still inacceptable!
In fact, I wasn’t joking. I was only making a point. Because there are so many people controlling Linux, because everything seems to be so “universal”, so many toolkits, so many re-inventions of the wheel, that’s why the consistency in Linux is gone and you also get dependency hell. Yes, I know that most Linux users want freedom but these are normally users like you, computer experts and at this stage that’s exactly what you have. Because of this very fact, you get inconsistency among installers, GUIs, looks and feels etc. Of course, these inconsistencies are OK for you, but ARE a problem for desktop users. The post I made above is based on “Desktop” “linux” and does not reffer to you and others that are against the points I made.
“due out in May”? who told him that? Official was wrapped and sent to distribution yesterday…oh, that means if you’re using Community plus all the updates from Cooker up till 29th, you have Official. Congratulations, etc. This is as good as it gets.
Mandrake 10CE works like a charm for me. It does definitely have some show stopping bugs that need to be worked out. Many of them already are in the latest cooker releases. Anyone downloading the 10CE ISO should be made aware of a nasty bug in the diskdrake tools. If you try to resize of change any of the partitions during the install, Windows will be unbootable. The diskdrake tools screw up the partition table. There is an errata on the Mandrake website about this bug and it is fixed in Cooker. However, the suggested remedies did not work for me and I had to completely reinstall windows.
“Of course, these inconsistencies are OK for you, but ARE a problem for desktop users.”
People need to understand Linux (OSS) is not here to be a weapon against Microsoft. This is actually not a race. It’s here to become as good as it can and to give people choice. Freedom is the whole point. For any desktop users who only want simplicity, standards, everything to be nicely wrapped up…they should use Windows. Linux isn’t for everybody. Too many people think that Linux needs to adapt to the needs of the common desktop user. It doesn’t. It needs to go on doing what its doing, steadily improving, whether billions of people use it or just a few.