I purchased my first Apple Mac in October 2003, having been a Windows user for many years. It was a new iBook G4. I previously wrote an account of my early experience with this machine along with some of the problems that I encountered. A common criticism that I faced at the time was that I had written the article too early.Editorial Notice: All opinions are those of the author and not necessarily those of osnews.com So what is it about my Mac that makes it so special? To me, the iBook is the perfect example of what mobile computing is all about. It’s small, yet can accommodate an optical drive. Battery life is exemplary. You really can use this machine away from the mains for a good four hours. And we’re not talking about using huge capacity batteries that double the size of the machine. The iBook is whisper quiet in use. The advantage of using an archaic 800MHz G4 processor is that it hardly ever requires active cooling so there is no obtrusive fan noise. You can start up the machine in the quietest of environments without drawing undue attention to yourself and without annoying others. Finally, the instant wake up from sleep is a revelation. This may sound like a trivial point but not having to wait for your laptop to wake up when you open it really does make a difference to usability. So, I’m now a proud, badge-carrying, thinking different, bona fide Machead, right? Well, that’s what I thought but maybe I’m not. I’ve noticed that whenever a Mac versus Windows flame war occurs in a computing forum (there was a particularly good one recently on Geek.com), I find myself cheering for the Windows users. I derive a rather perverse pleasure from Mac apologists being shouted down and humiliated. This was a sentiment that I didn’t really understand, given that I’m both happy and proud to be an Apple user. Then it dawned on me that there is something about the Apple experience that I really dislike: other Mac users. Before I go on, I ought to qualify my statements by saying that I know that all Mac users are not the same and I’m sure that vast majority are perfectly normal and pleasant people. But anyone glancing through almost any Mac-related forum is likely to see a considerably more extreme representation of the Mac community – the much maligned (and deservedly so) Mac zealot. In both my professional and personal life, there is a type of person that really frustrates me. This type of person holds unshakeable beliefs even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. This is the type of person that believes that Princess Diana was murdered by the British intelligence agencies; that the MMR vaccine causes autism and Crohn’s Disease; that the film JFK was a balanced and honest representation of events surrounding his murder. This type of person runs their life according to what they are told by their astrologer and shuns conventional medicine in favour of the healing power of crystals. Unfortunately, the Mac zealot has similar characteristics. To the zealot, Apple and Steve Jobs can do no wrong and any criticism of their Messiah is tantamount to blasphemy. When a fellow Mac user tells the zealot of how their iBook logic board failed 3 times in the space of 12 months, the zealot’s reply will be “you’re obviously mistreating your iBook”. When told about white spots on Powerbook screens, the zealot will say “you’re seeing things”. When told that a 500 MHz G4 simply doesn’t cut the mustard when compared to a 2 GHz Pentium IV, the zealot will scream “megahertz myth!” (that was until the introduction of the G5, after which even the zealots admitted that the Motorola chips hadn’t been up to the job). When informed that the iApp upgrades would no longer be free, the zealot would cheer, “Hail Steve. We rejoice in lining your pockets and increasing Apple’s cash mountain to even more astronomical levels.” It’s not just some Mac users that get on my nerves. I find certain aspects of Apple’s behaviour in the field of customer care rather disturbing. When a company that has close to $5 billion dollars in the bank and a slick-talking CEO who happens to be one of the highest paid in the world refuse to acknowledge serious flaws in their hardware that are causing recurrent problems, then I’m left with a rather unpleasant taste in my mouth. The threat of legal action should not be required for customers to get good customer care. I could go on to talk about deteriorating quality control, previously free OS X features for which you suddenly have to start paying and expensive OS upgrade fees which you are almost forced to pay due to lack of adequate support for older versions, but we’ve heard it all before. I’ll end my rant with a heartfelt request: fellow Mac users, abandon zealotry and start holding Apple and Steve Jobs to account before their eagerness to exploit the Mac faithful completely destroys the once magical experience of Mac ownership.
I should have taken more time to get used to the new operating before making any judgements. This is a criticism with which I now completely agree. The reason for this is that after four months of daily use, I have grown to appreciate the wonderful qualities of the iBook G4 / OS X Panther package. So much so, that I rarely need to sit down at my desktop PC these days.
What makes a zealot?
One of the things that is hard for a lot of people to understand, is that there’s a whole class of computer users for whom computers aren’t merely a tool or a means to an end. For a lot of people, the technical elegance of a computer is in and of itself an end. Both are not mutually exclusive of course; most people who are hardcore computer hobbyists are also people who need to get work done. But people who can’t understand why people would really love a computer, should think a bit about gearheads who tinker with their car engines. For me, a car is just a tool to get me from point A to point B. I don’t care how it works, just that it *does* work.
As such I can understand why a person would be mystified a bit by people who really love computers. I think it’s abstractly easier for a person to understand why someone would be really into cars because cars are that much more tangible. Nevertheless people who attend user group meetings and spend a lot of time arguing about PCs really are the same thing. You may not understand it, but if you can acknowledge it abstractly, it sheds some light on why people get emotional.
I’m one of these people. If I never encountered a computer in business or my daily work, I’d still be an enthusiastic computer hobbyist. No matter what I did for a living, I’d still be a computer hobbyist. When I am very old and infirm in a rest home someday, I will probably still be a computer hobbyist. I can work a 12 hour day on computers at work, and come home, and mess around on my computer to relax. There’s no image I’m trying to portray or shoes I’m trying to fill. I don’t care about being l33t, or having a faster computer than everyone else except inasmuch as it lets me do hobbyist things in that much more of a hardcore way.
I was a computer geek at 11 years old, and I still am now, at 31. It is maybe the only constant in my life. Ideologies have come and gone, interests, friends…But the computer is still there, given its own room in my home. I am endlessly fascinated.
Now as I am in a sort of transitional phase of my life spiritually right now, my need to be right about everything and my need to sell my own tastes to the rest of the world has tapered significantly. I am a Linux user, and worse yet – a Gentoo Linux user.
But if you come to me with a virus on your Windows machine, I’m going to help you get rid of it without telling you to run Linux (okay, I might say so in a light manner, but I don’t think less of people who use Windows. Not everyone is a computer hobbyist like myself. If you’re just checking e-mail and browsing web and playing games, just about any platform will do.)
If I were to win a Mac, I’d accept it happily and use it. And I still have a Windows box here to deal with video editing and occasionally play around in Truespace (a modeler-renderer-raytracer). I’m not too proud for that.
It’s not because of some kind of open mindedness – I have strong opinions about operating systems, and what I like or don’t like, but it’s just that — what *I* like and don’t like. I am willing to put up with the many, many pains of using Linux (and there are many. My clipboard still doesn’t work consistently in X. Also see the recent ESR rant on CUPS, which I thought was spot on), because overall I find the benefits to strongly outweigh the disadvtanges (by a huge margin). This may not be the case for people who just want to use Word, e-mail, and IE.
This should not be hard for zealots to acknowledge. I don’t get why people can’t understand the whole different strokes for different strokes thing. Every single OS is a tradeoff. I have not found the perfect universal OS, just ones that meet my needs. Things tend to “just work” in Windows and everyone knows how to use it. To do basic work, I can use Windows with Eudora and IE without getting upset.
Macs have changed the game and I’m more enthusiastic about trying one out now than ever before. You pay for things with a Mac, but everyone who does seems to think it’s still worth it – just like I think it’s worth it to put up with painful printer configuration in Linux.
Now the thing with death threats or whatever I don’t get. It reminds me of something that happened to me back in middle school:
Burnout: “Jim tells me you don’t like Metallica.”
Me: “I don’t.”
Burnout: “We’re gonna fight. After school, behind the library.”
(This actually happened.) (*)
People entangle their whole self-worth as a person behind their computer choices. I can understand, if still abhor, the tendency to do this with religion or with ideology, but when we as a society have reached a point where all of one’s identity – and therefore defensiveness – is tied up into an OS, the only thing I can think of to explain it is …
People are way too comfortable and spoiled. So safe and secure and luxurious is our world that the only thing left to get really angry about is an OS? I would love to explain this to some indigenous person living off of subsistence farming in the Third World and get their reaction.
So in summary, having strong opinions like this is a matter of being a computer hobbyist – the kind of person for whom computers is both a means AND an end. If computers are merely a means to you, exclusively, you’ll probably never get it.
But to bring it to THREATS, that’s a sign of a spoiled, corpulent, affluent existence, and it’s really pathetic, and embarassing.
If you’re a Windows user, a Mac User, a BSD user, or whatever the hell you use, if you’re a good person, you’re welcome at my dinner table. Thats how it should be. Computer geeks – zealots – have more in common with each other even if they use a different OS – than they probably do with the rest of the world. They ought to realize that.
PS:
(*) I grew to like some Metallica over time. I did not show up to that fight.
If a few zealots really effect how he feels about the computer he uses, then it’s him who has the problem IMO.
Every computer system has zealots, the same it true of different audio equipment brands or models of car. Surely how much you enjoy using the system is the important thing?
I use Windows at the moment, but I sometimes read Mac forums and have asked quite a few questions. IME the zealotry only starts when people start trolling and posting pro-windows comments.
I have this new theory.
People who decide not to use a tool or device because of the fact that some very outspoken 9and possibly rude) people use that tool or device, have some low self esteem issues, and an illogical train of thought. There is obviously a huge portion of said device users that are friendly, helpful, cool human beings.Sadly, people’s tendency to stereotype falsely isn’t going away.
Your perspective of a Mac user is opposite of mine. Quite the contrary, I find that hardcore Mac users — myself inclusive — are extremely hard on Apple. While we may be passionate for our computing platform of choice, we also EXPECT perfection. We know that’s impossible, but we demand it anyhow knowing that we get a better product in return.
Were Apple to falter such that Wintel were to rise to parity (in usability) with the Mac, most would turn their back on Apple in a heartbeat. Our passion is derived from the relative excellence of Apple’s products, not from our love of Apple, for which most feel an ambivalence.
For me, as long the Mac provides a better experience than offered by Wintel, I will continue to support Apple. For if there is no Apple, there is no Mac. Meanwhile, I’ll direct my criticisms to Apple in hopes they will continue to get more right than they get wrong.
I myself beeing a Macuser of the old guard,those who were raised when the macintosh in 1984 was released,dislikes the average Macue on certain dutch Mac forums.
They think small,almost the same like in a community, and are hardly open to those with real different views on life and the Mac.
They like to sneer at those who won’t give in to their way of behaving and expressing IVR.They are not open when you critisize the way our beloved computer-company behaves towards us as Macusers.
In other words: What we always hated about Microsoft can be seen also the way Macusers behave nowadays.
Beeing a Macuser is beeing different,let’s say a ‘Dandy’ type.That cannot be said on average nowadays on those who call themselves die-hard macusers.
I call them…wannabe’s and i have the right to call them that cause i was there in the beginning and they not.
I have this new theory.
People who decide not to use a tool or device, because of the fact that some very outspoken (and possibly rude) people use that tool or device, must have some low self esteem issues.
It’s also an illogical train of thought. There is obviously a huge portion of said device users that are friendly, helpful, cool human beings.Sadly, people’s tendency to stereotype falsely isn’t going away.
The reality is that a iBook isn’t much of a price difference between a x86 laptop, especially if you consider all of the free software (and the quality of that software) you get included – development tools, iLife, etc
I think there is… in the favour of iBook. I’m not CE student (and hopefully will never be) but the original “ill be studing computer engineering and need MS only software” indicates that a) the original poster has no clue what he’s talking about or b) his college sucks. Badly.
Having Free (as in freedom / beer / takoyaki) manufacturer supported development tools is a great thing for anyone with any interest in programming.
Zealots
By Stray (IP: —.satx.rr.com) – Posted on 2004-03-04 08:02:28
Should have been called “Reasons Why I Don’t Like Zealots”
They’re everywhere dude. I don’t like ’em either, but…
Lame article.
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You’re a Mac user, right ?
I was reading Eugenia’s comment on the fact that even though this article was annoying people for being a rant, its function was to _be_ a rant, as most editorials are rants anyway.
Sorry, but I beg to disagree: there is a difference between being informed and opinionated vs. being uninformed and opinionated. OSNews is a perfect site for an opiniated discussion, it’s not a scientific board. But I’m disappointed to see the editor(s?) of the site selecting ill-informed people like this Dr. with many diplomas that do not make his opinion a more solid one on Macs. Or that other dude who’s paranoid about the Matrix becoming a reality overnight.
Please.
The article was nice ! It held a surprise, that noone expected: The author does not like the user-base. MWAHAHAHAHA ! I loved that.
And yes, he *is* right. I am pretty sure, that most commentators here _are_ Mac-users, since their comments match his ‘portrait’ to the point. However, they write in a fashion this stays unclear. Must have made them feel a little silly.
BTW: I am an Amiga Zealot
Pah!
By Lennart Fridén (IP: 194.174.65.—) – Posted on 2004-03-04 08:36:37
Think Mac zealots are nauseating? Try venturing into an Amiga/Pegasos forum and you’ll see zealotry that makes your skin crawl!
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Lol! Yeah, I wanted to suggest the same. Did not read Moobunny for over two years and started catching up the major “discussions” three days ago.
Brutallica !
It’s gettin smaller in a world that becomes ever more Conservative. See? People will actually argue about the gap between poor and rich even when it is right in front of them.
According to the US Census, income inequality either remained the same or declined from 2001 to 2002, the last year figures were available. So you’re right, it’s pretty hard to believe you.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/img/incpov02/fig04.jpg
Now, it is true that median income has been decreasing since 1998, and the poverty rate has increased.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/img/incpov02/fig05.jpg
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/img/incpov02/fig03.jpg
In the US, poverty is defined as an income below 1/2 the median income. It’s a relative measure; hence it’s impossible to eliminate poverty (irresponsible rhetoric like John Edwards’ notwithstanding). If the middle economic strata do better than the lower strata, then the poverty rate will increase, but this does not necessarily imply that the poor are worse off. When a recession comes, one cannot do otherwise than expect the number of poor to increase.
There is also the difficult question of how on earth we can help people who won’t help themselves — and in some cases (by no means all), the biggest challenge to helping the poor is their own attitudes. Basic example: you can’t help a drug addict who doesn’t want to be free of his addiction.
When I was young, people insisted that Ronald Reagan would send us all to the poor house, yet the nation did quite well (my family for example rose out of poverty). Ten years ago, people insisted that Bill Clinton’s tax hikes would destroy the reborn economy, yet the nation did quite well in the long run (in spite of my father’s losing his job, several times).
So I’ll consider your rhetoric with the same skepticism that I reserve for all near-sighted investigations of selective facts, including my own. 🙂
Why was this article published? It had nothing to do with an operating system. It made sweeping, unsupported comments, some of which were simply wrong. While Apple’s tech support may not be the greatest, surveys consistently show it better than that offered by other companies. The latest Consumer Reports is one example.
A bunch of accusations that are unsupported, or false, and a topic that has nothing to do with computer operating systems; why was this article published?
Which accusations are false?
…publish this type of flame starting crap Eugenia. I enjoy your site most of the time, but seeing articles like this published makes me wonder why I come here sometimes.
“I have this new theory. People who decide not to use a tool or device because of the fact that some very outspoken 9and possibly rude) people use that tool or device, have some low self esteem issues, and an illogical train of thought. There is obviously a huge portion of said device users that are friendly, helpful, cool human beings.Sadly, people’s tendency to stereotype falsely isn’t going away.”
Here’s my theory : you’re all wrong. I say we live in a free society, and that freedom give me the option to made the decisions *I* want based on the criteria *I* choose.
If I decide that too many Linux people piss me off, it’s my freedom to choose an other OS, and “low self esteem” has absolutely nothing to do with that.
The reality is that a iBook isn’t much of a price difference between a x86 laptop, especially if you consider all of the free software (and the quality of that software) you get included – development tools, iLife, etc
I think there is… in the favour of iBook. I’m not CE student (and hopefully will never be) but the original “ill be studing computer engineering and need MS only software” indicates that a) the original poster has no clue what he’s talking about or b) his college sucks. Badly.
uh, since x86 is more widely used, there’s also a larger base of free software for it. How many linux distros run on x86 as compared to PPC? even on the win32 platform, you can get just about everything you need for free legally. As for MS only software in college, if the purpose of going to college to to prepare for a job, in a market where Office is run in a large percentage of offices, wouldn’t it make sense to be trained with those applications? I agree excluding other programming environments is silly, but with windows, that doesn’t happen much because so many projects are designed to either run on windows or beside windows (dual boot).
I am sick of all this bull**** from people about what’s pissing them off. There is a large number of PC enthusiasts who, for whatever reason, get pissed when someone claims Apple is superior. They launch into bull**** rants abou the “state of the mac community”, zealots, apple quality control (when it’s very good if not better than other makers), etc. Stop whining about stuff that is not the real issue.
YOU DON’T LIKE PEOPLE SAYING THE MAC IS SUPERIOR. JUST SAY IT AND STOP CITING OTHER CRAP THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY YOU ARE UPSET.
YOU DON’T LIKE PEOPLE SAYING THE MAC IS SUPERIOR. end of story
I’ve a degree in Computer Science and have worked as an IT bod all over the place. But I have NEVER used a Mac since school (15 years ago). My degree was Microsoft/Linux based and the only people I know who have used a Mac are art students. I don’t even know anyone who’s bought a Mac.
So, as someone who has used Windows 85% of my life I’d quite happily accept a Mac as a charity offer (ie for free) to help end the Micosoft v Mac debate.
As for MS only software in college, if the purpose of going to college to to prepare for a job, in a market where Office is run in a large percentage of offices, wouldn’t it make sense to be trained with those applications?
One can train for just about any of the necessary software (including Office) on a Mac. A lot of (Unix-based) material can be run on a Mac much easier than on win32.
I’m sure that most company-specific software runs only on win32, but universities aren’t supposed to be vocational schools beholden to one particular company; they’re supposed to teach the student to think clearly and to solve problems. (I’m not saying they’re succeeding in that; just what they’re supposed to do.)
You’re a Mac user, right ?
Whew…Long thread.
Yeah, I’m a Mac user. A Windows and Irix user as well. Linux is around too, but I don’t really *use* it.
Hilarious! Half the posts in here are from the same group of people he dosen’t like! Zealots! w00t!
Bleh.
This “edititorial” is worthless rant.
Give me a break.
hey man, don’t knock crystals because you don’t understand them
“Think Mac zealots are nauseating? Try venturing into an Amiga/Pegasos forum and you’ll see zealotry that makes your skin crawl!”
No, Mac zealots are worse.
As you say yourself, you have to venture into an Amiga forum in order to get any response (and outside of a couple of regulars on comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, there isn’t much of the zealous sort, anyway). The problem with Mac zealots are you get them spouting off in general forums – hell, you get them randomly advocating the Mac on all sorts of non-computing forums, or just randomly slipping it into the conversation.
“In the US, poverty is defined as an income below 1/2 the median income. It’s a relative measure; hence it’s impossible to eliminate poverty (irresponsible rhetoric like John Edwards’ notwithstanding).”
It is possible! Give everyone the same medium income and there’s nothing below 1/2 of the medium income!
As you say yourself, you have to venture into an Amiga forum in order to get any response (and outside of a couple of regulars on comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, there isn’t much of the zealous sort, anyway). The problem with Mac zealots are you get them spouting off in general forums – hell, you get them randomly advocating the Mac on all sorts of non-computing forums, or just randomly slipping it into the conversation.
Heh, I’d have to agree with that. I heard about this one chick who met a guy through online dating…and she just had to get rid of him. She said, “It was going pretty good, but then he got all trippy on me, something about Mac vs PC, and I was like ‘Huh?'”
Lol, I doubt he was a Windows user, but who knows..
Nice post Quag7: I think you hit the nail on the head.
I find it odd that if you say something positive about computers people look at you like your from Mars in general but its worse if its a Mac. I find it odd because we spend so much time in front of them and most people are not interested in learning anything new about them.
I also find that when you talk about computers and get into the Mac vs PC wars I find one person talking hardware specs and prices (PC) and the other talking about what the software does so its very hard to bridge that fundamental difference in how you look at a computer in the first place. I look at it like this I buy a new G5 and its pretty competitive now with PCs for speed etc. In 2 years time it will be behind by a fair margin and I wont be buying a new machine because I cant afford to. So I get bragging rights for a year and have envy for the next 3, oh well…
I use both PCs and Macs and prefer the Mac now that OSX has arrived and love the software even the command line X11 apps or the fact that I can have 1 machine instead of 3 (Virtual PC, OSX, X11).
It is possible! Give everyone the same medium income and there’s nothing below 1/2 of the medium income!
Okay, theoretically possibly, but not a snowball’s chance in hell it would ever happen 🙂
zealot sealot seatit sea-tit see tits!
i use both
w00t!
http://www.osnews.com: They’re not many who have mastered their spelling there.
If you have experience on both OS plaforms it ain’t easy to keep your mouth shut! So please bear with us macheads!
It’s interesting that so many people are blowing off what the column writer said, because regardless of whether he’s right or not, it’s the PERCEPTION that counts, and the perception vibes with what I’ve seen.
I used an original Mac extensively before buying my first computer, and I’ve been running Windows since buying my first pc (1986). Well, I’m fed up with Microsoft now since they’ve repeatedly engaged in illegal or unethical behavior, so my next PC will either be a 64-bit G5 or AMD64 on BSD/Linux. For now I’m leaning towards Apple since its UI and hardware integration are much better than Linux.
As others have pointed out, Apple does appear to drag their feet on coming clean about problems like the logic boards and iPod batteries, and for now that’s easily my #1 concern. If I want a deny-it-all, no-tech-support PC, I’ll buy a PC clone for under $900. If it becomes clear that Apple will be honest about supporting the problems in their PCs, it’s no problem buying their G5 for $2000 (once you include Apple Care in there).
So this updated article about your mac using joys?
Erm where is it? You’ve gone off topic big time me friend, try again, and this time stay ontopic. Its like me going on about Hitler when the project was about Mahatma Ghandi!
Mac zealot, maybe I will be one day 🙂
I dropped the mac a year ago because I could no longer stand to be seen as a mac user. There are just idiots, zealots and morons that beleive ANYTHING steve J says.
are the “anti-Mac zealots.” I can understand Mac-fans who are “enthusiastic” about their computers. People act that way about many things, such as cars, sports teams, and rock bands. There’s nothing strange about Mac fans if compared to the most ardent, say, Star Trek fans. What’s weird are the people who go to obviously Mac-oriented web sites to bash on Apple and Macs. There they are, putting a negative spin on pro-Apple news just as your Mac zealots might put a positive spin on anti-Apple commentary. Please explain that…
To paraphrase the biggest zealot of all:
“Windows 3.1 didn’t suck yesterday, but today
it does”
– Bill Gates, August 24, 1995
Comparing a no-name Mac zealot who only gets a few
lines on a no-name website with the above comment
that reaches millions more people is just plain
hypocritical. I suggest that the Windows switcher
who wrote this article take a little bit closer look
at his former zealots on the dark side of the fence.
He’ll see that they’re worse than the Mac nuts he talks
about.
Yeah, good rant. I have to totally agree on the Mac zealot thing. More over, I think silly that people are put label on like that… mac user, windows user. Having used BeOS, Windows 98/2K/XP, MacOS 9/X and Linux, sometimes many at once at home, I tend to find silly to classify oneself as just one-os-user. A better more open minded approach is to use whatever OS fits the current needs.
Anyway. Sure Panther is nice, but it’s far from the “best UI” imho. MacOS X is like a painting… it’s good looking but you can’t change the color settings. What about the silent minority of persons who can’t stand white background everywhere? No OS can be serious untill it natively allows the user to configure it has how the user wants, not how Steve decided it would be.
I may be wrong, but doesn’t Steve Jobs make $1 a year from Apple as his actual salary?
and I’m not sure being the “minority” makes any group more prone to zealotry.
I used to run OS/2 and, at that point, was a hardcore fan… but not quite a “zealot.” I saw people driven *away* from the OS because of the zealots. “You use Windows? What are you, an idiot?”
Yeah. Great way to convince people to listen to you.
We got that from the other side, too – “If you don’t use Windows, what’s the point?” Definately not the minority OS, but it’s there, too.
It should be made clear by those who actually *do* enjoy the hardware and software that zealots won’t be tolerated. After all, who’s more likely to get someone to listen – the person screaming “Try this or you’re a moron!” or the one saying “Come here and give this a try, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.”
I agree that Apple does need to be held to a very high standard at all levels. However, comparing to Windows is ridiculous because Microsoft is the absolute leader in hiding it’s plans, it’s quality problems, it’s massive windfall of $25 billion that it keeps in the bank. And particularly it’s totally out of control driver problems and memory management features that has been screwing up Windows users since the beginning of Windows 1.0. Admittedly, it has a huge number of PC configurations to worry about and cover, while Apple has only a few relatively, but that is the bottom line they have been dealt with, and one of the major reasons I switched.
Apple has it’s problems too, but boy oh boy, do I sleep better at night not worrying about keeping my PC running from day to day anymore. Apple is so far ahead at creating systems that are simple, elegant, and advanced all at the same time.
Steve Jobs is only paid $1 a year for his job. Although a couple years back, Apple bought him a very expensive jet, gave him money to pay the taxes on the jet and gave him lots of stock options.
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slick-talking CEO who happens to be one of the highest paid in the world
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Hey smarty pants: Steve Job’s gets paid $1.00 per year.
Stop being so stupid ok?
it is really early.
Steve Jobs.
not Steve Job’s.