Virtual PC is a powerful software virtualization solution that allows you to run multiple PC-based operating systems simultaneously on one workstation, providing a safety net to maintain compatibility with legacy applications while you migrate to a new operating system. It also saves reconfiguration time, so your support, development, and training staff can work more efficiently. This is a 45-day time-out, full version of the Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 product. No serial number is required.
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Smart move.
Connectix always had a 45-day Free Trial, this is not a new move.
BTW, I am currently installing the BeOS Max Edition 3.0. This emulator/virtualizer seems to be the first one to manage to work with BeOS “well enough”.
Syllable doesn’t work though.
Well I take my comments back because it doesn’t work with my CPU (k6-2 450Mhz).
VMWARE can do it why can’t Virtual PC.
Thats lame.
Because if you have bothered to read the requirements, MS has compiled VPC with i686 instructions for better performance.
Having an i586 (like your K6) emulating anything but Win3.1 or DOS would be too much for that CPU to bare. Obviously, there is more value in supporting as fast as possible the i686s and above (especially if people want to emulate modern Linuces or Windows in GUI mode). If I was MS (or VMWare) I would do the same. I suggest you buy a newer PC, or don’t bother to emulate anything modern on a K6, it would be no point even if VPC would have worked, it would be too slow.
As I said no problems with VMWARE.
I had Windows 2000, and win98 was emulated with good speed.
Oh well what a waste of bandwidth. I thought i586 was not the minimum.
Edit:I thought i586 was not the minimum
I mean that I thought Pentium II and k6-2 were equivalent.
I like VPC. BeOS Max 3 works pretty ok on my dual celeron. I had to download the S3 driver from bebits (VPC emulates an S3 Trio64 PCI card) however that driver is from the R3 days and it only does 8-bit color and so I reverted to VESA and 16bit color (only a bit slower than the S3 driver).
Networking works, for sound I had to download the SB16 driver from Carlos Hasan from BeBits, however the driver is extremely slow to be emulated. I click to do a sound and I hear a scratch about a minute later!
Overall, the OS is usable though and I think this is the first time that BeOS is able to be emulated “adequately” by any virtualizer, which is cool.
Can’t wait to get the demo for the Mac version to run it on my dual PowerMac 1.25 GHz where I would be able to judge the speed of the emulater on a more modern machine.
If you don’t have any problems with VMWARE, then keep on using it. When you get a modern computer, try Virtual PC.
I took a short look at the operating systems supported by virtual pc, i dont see any for freebsd or linux. Do they think that it does not exist (at mircosoft) ?
Strange move, i think they use it for older applications of windows to run only. Any insights on this?
Create a virtual HDD and format it as normal using the *nix tools.
How is this better/different than VMware? I have used
VMware a lot and I find it to be pretty adequate though it is very heavy on the CPU. Anybody tried running any linux distro on this?
MS have announced some time ago that they wouldn’t support Linux and others. That doesn’t mean you cannot install those.
http://www.beosmax.org/screenshots/vpc2004/vpc2004.htm
vmware is virtual machine while virtual pc is emulation.
i use virtual pc long time ago and its horrible at that time. not sure for now.
i use vmware for work. wins & gnu on gnu host.
I guess that would have to in order to compete with VMware.
yes, and its purpose was to run pc apps and oses. i am using 3.0 version today. this old version can run BeOs pe5 on my old iMac 233! with enough speed to do almost anything (and even to play beos games). now Connectix moved to MS and releasing pc versions of VPC… hmm.
I gave it a try out of curiosity. I was able to boot from the floppy disks, install Syllable and boot it form a Virtual Disk. One quick patch to the PCI bus manager later the network card was detected and working. The SBPro driver detected the SB16, too. I don’t know if it works, but it was detected. This is better than Virtual PC 5.0 did, which had problems with both the BIOS & ATA disk drivers and never worked properly.
There’s an FAQ on the website (http://syllable.sourceforge.net) if anyone here is interested. I also don’t know if any of this works on VPC for the Mac.
VPC 2004 itself is quite nippy but it does seem to have a lot of display related bugs that arn’t in Virtual PC 5.0 I’ll wait to see if Microsoft releases any fixes for them and try again in the future, but I’ll stick with VPC 5.0 for now.
After downloading,I read the processors that are NOT supported include the 2 i have , K6-2 (450mz)running wins 2000 pro and a VIA C3 running XP
,the only P2 i have is only 233mz so wont run it either!
same with vmware, according to site specs
http://www.vmware.com/
I’m running VPC 2004 and have 3 different linux distros installed!
And I didn’t need any special tool to make them run. Just create a new virtual harddrive and boot with the CD, or better yet, from an ISO image on one of your hardrives. The first one I tryed was Morphix, ran very well, I installed it to “disc”, I was able to connect to the internet and browse my local network (including the host computer shares) all without messing around with ANY settings. It impressed me.
I’ll be using it more often to try different OS’s I didn’t even bother to download.
Gein
Virtual PC for Windows is also a “virtual machine”. Virtual PC for Mac, however, is emulation.
Yes what a dastardly deed. A company that actually wants to sell products and make money.
The best thing about the ineffectual mindles posters on this site is that, they appear to be such losers there is no sense in worrying about them, as they will never amount to anything worth worrying about.
We are using it right now and it works extremely well. Good job MS.
That looks so sweet! /me loves BeOS
BTW, your web site kicks butt.
I like.
The whole idea behind creating a product is to SELL it for a profit. Somewhere along the line people have convinced themselves the entire world is going to run on free software. While it’s an interesting thought it’s not dealing in reality, and is never going to be the case.
Reality says people need to be paid for their efforts. Most of us can’t set at home watching Jerry Springer and reading Slashdot. I suppose thats acceptable for some however the rest of us work for a living, and want paid.
Jonathan Maltz has a extensive list of what works and what doesn´t in Virtual PC 2004. It seems that most of Linux distros actually work. Debian does not work and Fedora 1 seems to work only “sometimes”. Take a look at that list at http://vpc.visualwin.com/
Thanks, Jonathan.
I will have to try it. After the good Max BeOS report it will be fun to see it in action.
It only supports XP pro and not home. That kinda stinks.
I have been running VPC for windows since version 4 when it was a connetix product and not a MS one.
VPC has been on the PC before MS bought the product.
I used VPC 5.2 and I gotta say I think the 2004 isn’t improved much and may be worse in some respects.