The BeOS version 5.1d0 seems to have been extensively leaked on the web the last few days (please respect the OSNews policy and do not post direct download URLs of the illegal beta on our forums). Dianne Hackborn, ex-Be engineer, now at PalmSource, gives more information on what is included in this version of BeOS. There is hardware OpenGL (update: GL is ‘broken’ on Dano), new networking stack, window decors, XML kit, new USB stack, brand new Printing Kit (and lots of printer drivers for it), new font engine, column list view, tooltip support, updated Media Kit, Interface Kit and app_server, and more. And of course, brand new drivers, like support for the Adaptec U160 SCSI controllers, better SB128 support etc. Reportedly, this BeOS version has some issues with many existing BeOS applications, mostly because of the changes in the app_server. The only peculliar thing is that, as far as we know, Palm’s legal department did not take any action against the owners of the servers that carry the leaked beta.
More Information on the BeOS Dano Version
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As posted in post number 7: (don’t beat me up Eugenia!
http://www.markround.com/beos/unofficial.html
Follow the installation guide.
Note:
In the “screen” preferences there is, allegedly, a feature that lets you select different window decorations. They include a sort of “Aqua-ish” theme, and several variations on the usual BeOS window tab, and you can select the “classic” look if you want.
If this does not work, then post the issues that you are having.
ciao
yc
Well I decided to give BeOS 5.1 ‘Dano’ a shot as well, so I called up one of my PC wielding friends to use his computer for a guinea pig for testing (I only have my Macs here in Europe with me, so no go there). He wasn’t running BeOS 5 currently, he gave up on BeOS after last summer with all the bad news. Anyways we went on ahead and installed BeOS again on one of his PCs and then tried to install ‘Dano’ since we couldn’t boot straight to the disk and needed BeOS on the machine to recognize the files (including the installer) we then installed ‘Dano’ and booted… ended up getting a ‘Kernel Panic’ (as we all have seen in the past) and tried and tried and tried with no luck. But my buddy figures since you guys got it to work, it should work. So he is going to fiddle with it some more on his own Sunday and let me know of his success!
We didn’t try too hard tonight, so I am not discouraged yet!
>>>>You got it 100%. Today, what’s “right” isn’t even a second thought. Only what’s “legal” and at that, how can the legality be bent to make more profit.
>>>>Of course, it’s really the fault of consumers… consumers have yet to actually revolt against the EULA… so this industry will continue to get worse. Ever heard of the UCITA?
You fell into the same trap as WattsM.
Even if Ralph Nadar is the U.S. President and the U.S. government mandates that consumers be given certain rights under EULA — you can only go after Be Inc., not Palm Inc.
Palm Inc. didn’t purchase the whole Be Inc. company, they only purchase the source code. Palm had 2 choices — (1) paid 11 million dollars for the IP and leave the 7.2 million dollar worth of winding up liabilities (which includes supporting retail BeOS customers) to Be Inc. OR (2) paid 3.8 million dollars to purchase the whole Be Inc. company and absorb the 7.2 million dollar winding up liabilities themselves (which includes supporting retail BeOS customers). In effect, Palm paid MORE MONEY to Be Inc. so that Palm doesn’t have to deal with you people.
>We didn’t try too hard tonight, so I am not discouraged yet!
It is known that Dano has issues in SOME machines (machines that previously could run R5 just fine).
>>It is known that Dano has issues in SOME machines (machines that previously could run R5 just fine).<<
Okie dokie,
thanks for the info 🙂
Try installing from scratch on a new clean partition.
Keep trying! It’s well worth the effort.
ciao
yc
Alrighty I’ll definitely give it a shot!
Thanks for the encouragement!!
Regards…
CattBeMac
i copied over the Opera folder from my other version of BeOS and Opera works fine.
You’ll also need /boot/home/config/settings/Opera/ as this is where the toolbar buttons and other stuff is located
I don’t think it’s anything spectacular. BONE is nice, but thats about it. The GUI changes are, IMHO, lackluster at best compared to XP, OS X, GNOME and KDE. In fact, they look almost amaturish. I’ll keep it on my system, but like 5.03 before it, I suspect it’s use will wane into a waste of space on a hard disk. That is until OpenBEOS comes along.
For end users:
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New Decor option in the “Screen Preference” (I prefer Origin)
New Printing system and drivers.
New much faster networking (faster browsing and downloads).
Lots of new options and services in BoneYard control panel. (Very! very nice)
New Color Control panel to configure colors of UI objects.
Better USB support.
Improved Media control panel.
Improved TV application.
Gobe Productive and Most other apps work fine!
Netscape Mozilla works better!
New File Browser features in the “Windows Menu->Settings” option of browser window.
*Desktop
-New Show disks icon Option
-New Integrate Non-BeOS Desktops (very nice)
-New Mount Settings
*Windows
-Show Full Path in title bar
-Single Window Browse (Very! very! nice and powerful)
+Show Navigator
-Show Selection when active
*File Panel
-Root setting
-Recent doc setting.
*Time Format
-various options
For Developers:
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New ColumnListView class (The header file looks very powerful)(no html doc yet!)
New XML Kit. (Very nice and powerful classes)
New Networking Kit.
New Media Kit.
Improved compiler.
Improved Interface Kit.
Over all 5.1Beta is a huge improvement over 5.0 and is very stable!
This OS is just too cool, too complete for Palm not to release a new final version some day. Although I’m glad Palm chose not license this Desktop Rev because there is *still* plenty of work to Be done and licensing/supporting this rev in production while making modifications in house would Be difficult as many things will probably change radically.
Long Live BeOS!
ciao
yc
Lots of new options and services in BoneYard control panel. (Very! very nice)
Nice options, horrible interface. Yay.
New Color Control panel to configure colors of UI objects.
Yay.
New File Browser features in the “Windows Menu->Settings” option of browser window………
Every one of the many features you mentioned came from OpenTracker. Yay.
You mentioned all sorts of fairly worthless things and you didn’t mention that they final removed the app_server’s throttling for scrolling and window dragging? I’m ashamed.
Over all 5.1Beta is a huge improvement over 5.0 and is very stable!
“Huge” is a bit much, but it is definitely a nice little improvement. Had it come out a year and a half ago when it should have, it might have been a big deal.
This OS is just too cool, too complete for Palm not to release a new final version some day.
It must be fun to live in your own naive little world. Dealing with reality can be hard.
while making modifications in house
Because that’s what they’re doing. Yep. Palm realizes that there is a ton of money to be made from an outdated OS with about 400 users, which would directly compete with the (now technically superior) products from Microsoft and Apple, and not to mention the freely-available OSes that have recently seen lots of corporate involvement. Makes sense, right? Why fight Microsoft on only one front when you can fight them on two! Sure-fire recipe for success!
Long Live BeOS!
“No, I swear, one of these days she’s going to realize that she really likes me! You just wait!”
Thanks for the hours of laughing at your expense. It’s been fun for years, yet you seem to always beat out my expectations, yc.
>>Thanks for the hours of laughing at your expense.
Wow, you are easily amused! You just keep on laughing bubba… I can afford it!
ciao
yc
Some of the new APIs are really cool!
BColumnListView is awsome! “Santa’s Gift Bag” CLV developers should check it out…
The XML stuff looks very good as well.
Long Live BeOS!
ciao
yc
If you have no existing Be partition and an extra drive sitting around this could work for you.
1. Boot machine using BeOS Pro 5.0 (or bootable BeOS PE cd)
2. Partition and initialize a BeOS partition from the menu
3. Unmount BeOS Pro cd and swap with your EXP/DANO 5.1 disc
4. Return to main installer and select the new disc
5. Begin install
In order to get the Pro only edition software (ex. RealPlayer), just mount it upon reboot and manually copy the files.
Well, i have only one question about BeOS5.1:
Does it run on PowerMac???
and what are the Mac-system requirements for Dano?
well… that goes to two questions…
who has the answer? tell me, please…
r.i.m.a.s