This will help the Amiga community a lot. I have tested the AROS using a bootable CD and it’s great. We just need one that can be installed on the PC (not using Linux).
There’s a couple projects I’ve been considering porting, but lack of a native compiler had been turning me off of the idea. For some reason this makes it more entertainment and less like a chore for me.
you CAN install AROS native now on a PC! try the InstallAROS command 🙂 but beware its NOT recomended to try this on a HD you have vital data on as InstallAROS will nuke your entire HD and install AROS on a system partition (its just a simple installer)! also comming “SOON” now is a native PPC version but dont hold your breath just yet :-).
of course it does…. thats why OS3.5/9 and 4.0 used parts of AROS for FREE! not to speak of UAE its thanks to UAE there exists MakeCD/GoldED/etc but of course someone with you IQ dosent recognise this…its sad to see how litle IQ some people have.
UAE and similiar projects have saved the Amiga, and will continue to make it stronger, not destroyed it. UAE came in when the old Amiga hardware began to fail. It gave a way for users who wanted to continue to use the Amiga, and users who wished they could, to use it. It gave old Amiga users the opportunity to rekindle their affection for the Amiga and to remind them why they liked it so much — for some of us, a reminder as to why we started/stayed in computers as a hobby/career. Amiga Inc. would not exist if UAE/Athalon did not exist, because it kept interest in the Amiga alive among a large part of the potential user base, which are the first potential customers of the AmigaOne or Pegasos. Basically, no UAE/Athalon/AROS, no Amiga.
“”of course it does…. thats why OS3.5/9 and 4.0 used parts of AROS for FREE! not to speak of UAE its thanks to UAE there exists MakeCD/GoldED/etc but of course someone with you IQ dosent recognise this…its sad to see how litle IQ some people have.””
Os3.5 & 3.9 only use the colourwheel from Aros for the palette.prefs. Oas4 uses no aros parts at all.
I dount very much that if UAE did not exist that MakeCD/GoldED would not of come into being. PLL will use whatever is avail and what they like to used to get the job done.
Thats like saying if there was no AppleMacs then those users would not be useing computer at all, when in fact they would use the next best thing of their liking.
OS3.5/9 uses more then the colourwheel but i forget what (if anyone reading knows shout out) as for OS4 not using any parts ive heard differently + in a recent OS4 shoot you can clearly see an AROS demo beeing used (dont belive me check it out yourself) as for MakeCD/GoldED both are developed on UAE and if UAE didnt exist they would not exist its that easy (ask the devs of those apps)! and there is more but i cant be bothered to list up stuff here point is UAE has helped Amiga and if you cant see that i dont understand how you think.
Okay if I am able to install this natively on my PC as a poster earlier suggested.
Will I be able to run my Amiga 500 games as I do in WinUAE, from floppy images on my HDD.
The Amiga for me was all about the games, especially on my Amiga 500. I hardly ever booted into Workbench, except for Deluxe Paint (that was so such a sweet app), FinalCopy Wordprocessor (I think it was called that, I rocked at high school because my documents came out better than other students docs created on DOS & Mac)…..and of course to run more games Monkey Island II.
thats all the interest you had in Amiga i can say now that AROS is not for you you could of course run the games in our version of the UAE but not native! and seeing you already run WinUAE (the most up 2 date+++ UAE) there is there is litle point! then again maybe there is some interest in trying it out? after all why do you read OSnews if your not interested in OSes? :-).
I am not a C/C++ programmer, but I am glad this bounty is getting close to its finish. I am also glad I donated what I could to GCC port and to the TCP/IP stack bounties…these are two things that could really quicken development on AROS. Keep it up guys!
Fantastic, i was going to write a DOM for amigaOS but WinUAE was slooooow then i checked out AROS but the idea of cross compiling (or whatever it was) seemed scarry…
NOW this is very cool news. This is so cool So much work is going on. They got their GUI Working which is very nice and now GCC! These guys are machines… hopfuly when i become a competent programmer i may be ablet o help out with AROS
UAE is slow on GNU/Linux. WinUAE is faster, though. From what i’ve heard from my Amiga-geek friend, WinUAE ”learns” certain stuff which is executed a lot and translates it into i386 calls, giving emulation a whole new perspective.
OTOH, there’s AmigaXL, which is to be installed from QNX. I heard this was slow too. Then, there’s Amithlon, which is a hacked Linux kernel with AmigaOS. This can’t be bought since the developer got sued or something, but it can be found via ehm… various resources. It’s not Free, nor free, but the Linux kernel can be compiled yourself supporting more hardware with your own compiled kernel, making Amithlon still useful on newer boxes – which is what i’ve done.
I’ll probably try AROS when it uses more peaceful methods for installation. I take it now i can port software to AROS? One can also port Free software to AmigaOS (ie. OpenSSH) making Free software useful for the Amiga. In fact, Free software supports new OSes.
>I’ll probably try AROS when it uses more peaceful methods for
> installation. I take it now i can port software to AROS? One
> can also port Free software to AmigaOS (ie. OpenSSH) making
>Free software useful for the Amiga. In fact, Free software
>supports new OSes.
Got to the AROS site, install the hosted version for either linux or freebsd and give it a try. I did, i played with it, i liked it and then i uninstalled it. But i’ll install it soon again. Its very fast hosted. Well, its not as if theres emulation going on.. Go on install it. its great!
Heh I saw the comment about ReactOS and I just had to chime in. ReactOS has a native GCC in the form of Mingw GCC for Win32. We can already rebuild ReactOS on ReactOS using GCC for Win32.
this is great news! can’t wait for the next release AROS really seems like it is going somewhere
what these OpenSource Operating System “Clones” or “reimplementations” will provide at the end…
I mean if I look at the ROADMAP of ReactOS (win32[nt4] clone)
And now this great news from AROS
Then OpenBEOS… and also the most succesful LINUX!
I can just say, I am impressed!
This will help the Amiga community a lot. I have tested the AROS using a bootable CD and it’s great. We just need one that can be installed on the PC (not using Linux).
Choice is good.
There’s a couple projects I’ve been considering porting, but lack of a native compiler had been turning me off of the idea. For some reason this makes it more entertainment and less like a chore for me.
you CAN install AROS native now on a PC! try the InstallAROS command 🙂 but beware its NOT recomended to try this on a HD you have vital data on as InstallAROS will nuke your entire HD and install AROS on a system partition (its just a simple installer)! also comming “SOON” now is a native PPC version but dont hold your breath just yet :-).
AROS is not usefull for the Amiga Community. No Amiga Software runs on AROS. Same shit like UAE. It destroys Amiga but no one will notice this.
of course it does…. thats why OS3.5/9 and 4.0 used parts of AROS for FREE! not to speak of UAE its thanks to UAE there exists MakeCD/GoldED/etc but of course someone with you IQ dosent recognise this…its sad to see how litle IQ some people have.
UAE and similiar projects have saved the Amiga, and will continue to make it stronger, not destroyed it. UAE came in when the old Amiga hardware began to fail. It gave a way for users who wanted to continue to use the Amiga, and users who wished they could, to use it. It gave old Amiga users the opportunity to rekindle their affection for the Amiga and to remind them why they liked it so much — for some of us, a reminder as to why we started/stayed in computers as a hobby/career. Amiga Inc. would not exist if UAE/Athalon did not exist, because it kept interest in the Amiga alive among a large part of the potential user base, which are the first potential customers of the AmigaOne or Pegasos. Basically, no UAE/Athalon/AROS, no Amiga.
“”of course it does…. thats why OS3.5/9 and 4.0 used parts of AROS for FREE! not to speak of UAE its thanks to UAE there exists MakeCD/GoldED/etc but of course someone with you IQ dosent recognise this…its sad to see how litle IQ some people have.””
Os3.5 & 3.9 only use the colourwheel from Aros for the palette.prefs. Oas4 uses no aros parts at all.
I dount very much that if UAE did not exist that MakeCD/GoldED would not of come into being. PLL will use whatever is avail and what they like to used to get the job done.
Thats like saying if there was no AppleMacs then those users would not be useing computer at all, when in fact they would use the next best thing of their liking.
OS3.5/9 uses more then the colourwheel but i forget what (if anyone reading knows shout out) as for OS4 not using any parts ive heard differently + in a recent OS4 shoot you can clearly see an AROS demo beeing used (dont belive me check it out yourself) as for MakeCD/GoldED both are developed on UAE and if UAE didnt exist they would not exist its that easy (ask the devs of those apps)! and there is more but i cant be bothered to list up stuff here point is UAE has helped Amiga and if you cant see that i dont understand how you think.
Okay if I am able to install this natively on my PC as a poster earlier suggested.
Will I be able to run my Amiga 500 games as I do in WinUAE, from floppy images on my HDD.
The Amiga for me was all about the games, especially on my Amiga 500. I hardly ever booted into Workbench, except for Deluxe Paint (that was so such a sweet app), FinalCopy Wordprocessor (I think it was called that, I rocked at high school because my documents came out better than other students docs created on DOS & Mac)…..and of course to run more games Monkey Island II.
thats all the interest you had in Amiga i can say now that AROS is not for you
you could of course run the games in our version of the UAE but not native! and seeing you already run WinUAE (the most up 2 date+++ UAE) there is there is litle point! then again maybe there is some interest in trying it out? after all why do you read OSnews if your not interested in OSes? :-).
I am not a C/C++ programmer, but I am glad this bounty is getting close to its finish. I am also glad I donated what I could to GCC port and to the TCP/IP stack bounties…these are two things that could really quicken development on AROS. Keep it up guys!
quote from Ola Jensen
after all why do you read OSnews if your not interested in OSes? :-).
😉 That’s correct.
Fantastic, i was going to write a DOM for amigaOS but WinUAE was slooooow
then i checked out AROS but the idea of cross compiling (or whatever it was) seemed scarry…
NOW this is very cool news. This is so cool So much work is going on. They got their GUI Working which is very nice and now GCC! These guys are machines… hopfuly when i become a competent programmer i may be ablet o help out with AROS
You realy need get the full facts & not use hearsay as facts.
A quick port of an AROS demo to Aos4 does not in anyway mean that Aos4 has AROS code in it.
Hyperion has already explained the reason for useing a ported AROS demo in Aos4.
UAE is slow on GNU/Linux. WinUAE is faster, though. From what i’ve heard from my Amiga-geek friend, WinUAE ”learns” certain stuff which is executed a lot and translates it into i386 calls, giving emulation a whole new perspective.
OTOH, there’s AmigaXL, which is to be installed from QNX. I heard this was slow too. Then, there’s Amithlon, which is a hacked Linux kernel with AmigaOS. This can’t be bought since the developer got sued or something, but it can be found via ehm… various resources. It’s not Free, nor free, but the Linux kernel can be compiled yourself supporting more hardware with your own compiled kernel, making Amithlon still useful on newer boxes – which is what i’ve done.
I’ll probably try AROS when it uses more peaceful methods for installation. I take it now i can port software to AROS? One can also port Free software to AmigaOS (ie. OpenSSH) making Free software useful for the Amiga. In fact, Free software supports new OSes.
>I’ll probably try AROS when it uses more peaceful methods for
> installation. I take it now i can port software to AROS? One
> can also port Free software to AmigaOS (ie. OpenSSH) making
>Free software useful for the Amiga. In fact, Free software
>supports new OSes.
Got to the AROS site, install the hosted version for either linux or freebsd and give it a try. I did, i played with it, i liked it and then i uninstalled it. But i’ll install it soon again. Its very fast hosted. Well, its not as if theres emulation going on.. Go on
install it. its great!
AROS has no emulation, so it cannot run your classic software directly. It is a source-level compatible solution only at this time.
You can use UAE or Amithlon to do this, however. Someday AROS may have binary-compatibility, but not today.
Heh I saw the comment about ReactOS and I just had to chime in. ReactOS has a native GCC in the form of Mingw GCC for Win32. We can already rebuild ReactOS on ReactOS using GCC for Win32.
Done. The things i’ve seen were very impressive (and fast).
Also, Fun to see some Free software in it
for me, this is something to keep an eye on.