SCO has announced a controversial new plan to fight intellectual property misappropriation. It’s going beyond the distributors, beyond the end users, to the next generation. In other SCO news, the company is planning on attacking the GPL directly.
SCO has announced a controversial new plan to fight intellectual property misappropriation. It’s going beyond the distributors, beyond the end users, to the next generation. In other SCO news, the company is planning on attacking the GPL directly.
It is attacking the GPL in USA.
SCO’s argument boils down to this: copyright holders do not have the authority to grant the use of more than on copy of copyrighted software.
This takes the control of software away from developers and publishers. Of course, this will never fly. Companies such as Microsoft make most of their money by selling sites the right to make multiple copies of the same software.
In the end, SCO is attacking a pretty fundamental business plan for most corporate software.
Besides, their argument is inane and just plain silly. America does not live by the letter of the law, but by the spirit of it. No judge in the US (or Germany) is going to read that law as anything other than a restriction on end-users, not software publishers.
I can’t believe that is what SCO is paying these guys at that law firm to do! It is almost as if I have awaken in bizarro world where up is down, black is white and cats and dogs live together in harmony…
Seriously though, IANAL but I can promise you that this argument will get laughed out of the courtroom. I can see the judge now….”SCO, what you’ve just argued is one of the most insanely idiotice things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no money and may God have mercy on your souls.” (props to Billy Madison for this one)
I think the FSF did consult lawyers before ever unleashing GPL on the world. Nowhere does the GPL supercede US copyright law. All it does it give it further flexibility if YOU choose to do so. You, your mother, your dog and anybody else is allowed to make as many copies as you want under GPL. If GPL violates the copyright law, then I guess that we will have to recall just about every published book, magazine and CD because these are copyrighted and according to these geniuses, only one copy is allowed!
Good luck arguing this one in court. I am pretty sure that this case will become the quintessential case for law school classes on intellectual property law. Unfortunately, it will be the case for what not to do!!!
SCO you suck.
Attacking the GPL in Germany huh. I’m sure they are going to be really successful there :+)
It seems now that every argument being proposed is the same that Microsoft has been spouting off for the last few years.
Is it commonly accepted that Microsoft is funding SCO GPL FUD tirade?
Naw… I think the most Microsoft has done is license an SCO Unix license…
Hey, at this rate, Microsoft might be the next one sued by SCO, for erm… infringing a patent on poor little clippy in Office…
SCO is providing the open source community with a valuable service. When all is said and done, the GPL will have one or more valuable precedents reinforcing its validity in court.
Well, if SCO *successfully* argues that the GPL is invalid, then aren’t they going to be guilty of years of copyright infringement by distributing GNU/Linux and related software without a valid license? It just seems really insane that they would argue to invalidate the GPL and then have thousands of developers and corporations able to sue them for copyright infringement. Plus, the Linux source code SRPM is still available for download from their FTP site at ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Server/CSSA-2003-020….
–SN
I love the new company logo!
lol ah man that’s hilarious…
First of all, isn’t there an injunction against SCO activity in Germany?
Second, even people who know *nothing* about computers have responded to this GPL crap right away:
The law about 1 backup copy applies as a default, if the software author/company specifies “all rights reserved.” Beyond that, the copyright holder has the right to permit people to do with his work what that damn well please, if that’s his choice.
He also has the right to specify the restrictions in the GPL, if that’s his decision. It’s nobody else’s right but the author’s.
BTW, if you get a nastygram from SCO, consider forwarding a copy to your lawyer, maybe with the intent of eventually getting it to the SEC, the FTC, and the FBI. You might also want to have your lawyer arrange to swear a peace bond against SCO. They have no right to bother anyone but the participants in the lawsuit about *anything* until the trial.
To break the GPL SCO will try and break copyright laws. This means that SCO will then be trying to break the very laws that the MPAA and RIAA have instilled, including the DMCA.
This could be very interesting, MPAA/RIAA vs SCO.
…my organization doesn’t care for UNIX or Linux, but I like Linux. If, before the trial, anyone from my organization harasses me over my personal activities with Linux, on the grounds of what SCO says, and if my job were in danger over it, I could sue SCO for damages until they go out of business!
there is none yet, if you haven’t figured…
….SCO is going to get multiple gag orders, and they’re going to obey them willingly.
They are getting a lot of the wrong people very angry.
Even if they are technically right in this situation (which would be quite a stretch to say the least), going after the GPL to me reaks of a PR nightmare. It’s like beating up somebody’s grandma and then expecting people to get along with you afterwards. *pffffffffffffffffffffffffft*
Haven’t you noticed that, basically, everyone who has been siding with SCO are basically acting like bullies? I have seen not a single pro-SCO statement, from anyone, that doesn’t smack of cruelty, even that silly DiDidio woman.
It would serve them right if, as people have suggested, the Linux kernel suddenly had nothing in it for SCO to complain about, even whether the kernel volunteers see their stupid code-copy “evidence” or not. Then, they can go fight with IBM and then eat dirt.
I can’t believe that is what SCO is paying these guys at that law firm to do!
Here in Europe that claim wouldn’t even have a first audience in court with the counterpart since the court would attest there is no right envolved.
The copyright holder can license the way he/she/it wants to, unless it’s illegal (latus sensu, you want to distribute freely a porn movie with 8 years old individuals).
How can it be illegal when the *intelectual creator himself allows* every other individual to have the fruition of itself’s work … that’s just against common sense.
One can also do whatever one wants to with *its own property* (since the French Revolution it is a constitutional right) starting on, pure and simply, destroying it to distributing it freely. If a third party comes in and forbides the creator to distribute something freely it is the third party (including the Local Government – *excluding* matters of *evident* National Security) that must be liable for the interference on the intelectual creation and *distributing* constitutional right, not the other way around,
I think that FSF should ask for some (symbolic) indemnification – and then make a precedent out of it, thus getting a stronger GPL license.
…no changes are needed with regard to this bunbling attempt at damaging the GPL.
However, it’s getting to the point where the FSF might want to consider joining in a restraining-order lawsuit against SCO. They have been issuing very disparaging remarks about people who have no involvement in their contract dispute with IBM.
IBM and the Linux Community say that Sco’s License is illegal because of the GPL
SCO arguments that you don’t have to accept the GPL to use the software AND copywrite law allows you to make one copy (copy with SCO-license).
Just a wild guess to make sense!
God SCO, you are beating a dead horse. Leave linux alone, SCO hasn’t even showed us the “stolencode”
No further comment.
Very interresting, all that nonsense. They’re acumulating a LOT of bad karma with this. When they crash and burn, I’m buying champagne.
If copyright says that SCO/Caldera may make one copy of Linux which they had acquired properly, then they have superseded the spirit of the law by then distributing multiple copies to others under the GPL.
The real issue is how will the courts interpret the actions of Santa Crus Operation vs. SCO/Caldera vs. Tarantella and the history of the BSD/ATT suit, etc.
What may seem logically or inane to us, may hold a whole different value for the courts.
If you doubt it, search around. Here in Connecticut, the law actually says that I am responsible for the safety of anyone tresspassing on my private, fenced in property, even if I make reasonable attempts to keep them out. This includes not only shooting home intruders, but also if the idiot falls into a hole or my pool.
Laws are not created in a vacuum, they are based on the efforts of one or more people to protect THEIR interests. It is up to us to protect OUR interests. If you want to make sure that SCO/Caldera looses and the GPL is upheld as valid and fair, then YOU need to push your representatives in government to fight for you. This goes for all “Copyrights” and human rights. Read the Constitution. It is our right and responsibility to make sure that the government is of the people and for the people.
Lets stop SCO/Caldera and their friends (the “I bought a coffee from McDonalds and burned myself, and should be given $$$Millions for pain and suffering because nobody warned me how hot it was” people) from screwing up our rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
So stop posting your own inane rants, and gather the facts, band together, and contact your representatives. Tell them to stop this now, tell them to fight the moguls and monopolies, and you educate your friends, family, neighbors, etc. This truly is bigger than SCO/Caldera. Read up on the DMCA, and all laws related to Technology.
I wrote my letter to Big Joe, and Blumenthal.
Just thought you may like to know the McDonald’s coffee – part urban legend – is not as bad as it seems at first. It seems that McDonald’s had violated industry standards by making the coffee far hotter than the industry standard. They had been warned about it and had ignored the warning based on economic considerations.
I can’t remember the balance of the facts but I think that the coffee may have actally put a whole in the cup.
Anyway the point is the jury believed that the disregard of industry standards despite warnings and the fact the individual had 3rd degree burns around the genit*l area was enough to award large punitive damages.
SCO has already dirted thier hands with help of GNU license. Even if SCO wins it will still be a loser.
The US law that Attorney Heise refers to says that you can only make one copy without permission from the copyright holder, which does not apply in this case.
The section of law that is referenced does not mean that the copyright holder can’t allow copying and distribution. Copyright licenses have legal recognition in the US before software was around. They are recognized as the tool by which copyright holders grant _further rights_ than the law allows for use, copying, and distribution of their work.
I thought it was just SCO on crack; now I think that the loss in Florida 2000 addled Boise’s brain or something.
Again, SCO wants to be in the news. And the only way to keep it that way is to do things that are progressively idiotic.
. . .so that they can buy themselves a clue. . .
The m0r0ns distributed their product under the GPL. Now they want to go back on their contract. Last time I heard, you can’t do that. . .
Take notes and transcribe for historical nostalgia.
Two important facts to remember:
1. M$ is losing the desktop war.
2. $CO takes orders from M$.
Thusly, Linux will be the victor in both desktop and server environments. Goodbye Window$, and goodbye O$ X.
Hm… I just got an idea..but dont take it too serious
If the GPL is declared illegal…the kernel developers can change the license to something more fitting. For example for every kernel installed they can demand like…$100000. Then they can sue SCO’s customers for stealing of theyre intellectual property!!!
Hehe…Would have been really awesome!
We have to rid this world of communism and SCO is trying to do just that. If SCO is successful, the world will be just that much better.
Linux =! communism
The NSA uses Linux. So does IBM. Are you calling IBM and the NSA communists?
The GPL is an extension of rights granted to copyright holders. To invalidate the GPL would be to take rights away from copyright holders.
What we have to rid the world of is SCO, i.e. IP parasites who want to make money through litigation instead of developing a sound business plan.
Oh, and I do believe you are a troll.
Too many corps use applications that are GPL somewhere in their server base. Honestly, it is difficult to get along in a *Nix world without a good bit of compiled GPL apps on your servers. I do not believe that the corporate world is very pleased at this sort of nonsense attitude from SCO.
At my business here, there are a number of Managers (not geeks) who are absolutely inflamed by the idea of SCO trying to destroy the GPL and confuse the licensing issues related to software running on most of our backend servers.
I don’t think SCO is making any friends with this move.
… is that SCO is being feed by someone.
Just think a little bit. All that stuff isn’t good for their OWN business. They are for sure going to loose market share at fast pace so, what is going on?
Who could be behind, that’s the real question we should ask.
“We have to rid this world of communism and SCO is trying to do just that. If SCO is successful, the world will be just that much better.”
Yeah! Then we can make all those Linux communist kernel develpers get jobs at auto manufacturers and make cars. Keep us blinks (blind people) in our place!
The SCO icon used by OSnews for this article is very appropriate….
… “Trick or Treat”
SCO wants candy… by hook or by crook.
I thought the catch-phrase was “knifing the baby” to refer to the corperate killing of a product to gain favor with a competitor. i.e <a href “www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/1188.html”>used by MS here!
Although, I guess SCO is a little wilder than other MS “partners” and is trying to top the others in MS eyes.
I thought the catch-phrase was “knifing the baby” to refer to the corperate killing of a product to gain favor with a competitor. i.e http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/1188.html used by MS here!
Although, I guess SCO is a little wilder than other MS “partners” and is trying to top the others in MS eyes.
Preview is a “good thing”!
thought the catch-phrase was “knifing the baby” to refer to the corperate killing of a product to gain favor with a competitor. i.e.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/1188.html
Although, I guess SCO is a little wilder than other MS “partners” and is trying to top the others in MS eyes.
Preview is a “good thing”! We really, really, really need it!
Only in America, The land of the brave, the land of the free……Omg I hate that country
Only in America, The land of the brave, the land of the free……Omg I hate that country
Good for you. Say hello to Stalin for me.
hmmm… With all this FUD flowing on periodical basis, most of us have already made our minds about it, so I’ll tell you about the litle conspiracy theory that is lately poping in my mind:
My theory says that, effectively, it is Uncle Bill who is feeding this attack against the Open Source community, but their objective is not to directly destroy Linux, Unix or the Open Source movement.
He’s objective is to hit it under the belt and really slow-down commitment from large consumer and developing companies towards OpenSource so they have enough time to imposse their tcpa/palladium strategy right into Joe Cosumer’s …err… backside.
That, coupled with hard to get or expensive palladium approval (for Linux et.al) when it is tied to the hardware, would make switching and coexistance between Uncle Bill’s and OpenSource plattforms a whole lot more difficult.
I have to contact Tom Clancy’s editor
In scox’s case, the baby was dead anyway.
Remember from south park? An argument so bizarre that it confuses the court into deciding in favor of the “Chewbacca” arguer.
I think this guy’s whacked. Even SCO must know just how much GPL work they’ve done, and how rediculous it would be for them to “challenge the validity” of what has been their license for so long.
A case in point, I went looking for the AIM benchmarks this morning and found this:
“SCO is making Suites VII and IX of the AIM benchmarks available under the GPL. The Suites are now available to the community via download. The project will also be available on SourceForge soon.”
http://www.sco.com/developers/community/contrib/aim.html
Good for you. Say hello to Stalin for me.
Hu, you see all in black and white, like:
“If you are not with us you are against us”.
Brutus – Old Roman empire.
:::
“Chewbacca” arguer.
I promisse you that if a lawyer would made such stupid alegations on a proper European Court he would be told to shut up immediatly by the Judge or *by his client* !
To be honest…I really believe Stalin would have shot sco. And for good reasons, don’t you think?
US:
The land of the brave
The land of the free
The land of the dumbest ppl in the world.
The Land with Us & Canada, competing in “WORLD SERIES” in football. Errrr…..world?
As I am not a US citizen, I was hoping someone would create a petition on http://www.petitiononline.com/ asking HP to sue SCO for damages if it wants continued business from its patrons.
Just a thought
Americans never produced Hitler.
Americans never produced Lenin or Stalin.
Americans never produced Mao Zedong.
Americans never produced Pol Pot.
Americans never produced the Khmer Rouge.
Americans (i.e., the United States) never procuded Agosto Pinochet.
Americans never produced Maximilian Robespierre and the Jacobins.
Americans never produced Napoleon.
I’d say that the SCO quest to make money of IBM/Linux is just as dumb is this silly USA bashing.
SCO is arguing what they did themselves (release Linux) is wrong. Pretty dumb huh? But how dumb is it to say “All americans are dumb” when maybe 50% of all americans are actually immigrants from Europe. I don’t think many Swedes today don’t have relatives in the USA for instance (I’ve got it both on my fathers and mothers side). That is unless someone from Europe is willing to stand up and say “all blank, hispanic, and asian people in the US are morons”. Hell, that would be a PR nightmare. Hey! Same thing as what SCO got on their hands! Who wants to make so many enemies and then try to make business?
So, please specify who the idiots are in the future, I’ve met plenty of idiots when I’ve been to the states myself, so you can stop insulting the nice people, ok? We hardly need to mention all the morons we have here at home after all…
(A note on SCO, it’s just a legal thing, don’t worry, when the lawyers are done a large sum of money will have been transfered somewhere (most likely into the pockets of said lawyers) and life will go on.)
http://www.connect-dots.com/Poofs/chewbacca.html
Yeah, it’s off-topic.
>Americans never produced Hitler.
[…]
> Americans never produced Napoleon.
Finaly, americans dropped a nuclear bomb on hiroshima !
mericans never produced Hitler.
Americans never produced Lenin or Stalin.
Americans never produced Mao Zedong.
Americans never produced Pol Pot.
you certainly created (“bomb Cambodia to the stone age” – H Kissinger – mean anything?
Americans never produced the Khmer Rouge.
see above
Americans (i.e., the United States) never procuded Agosto Pinochet.
your joking – right – ever seen “Missing” – he certainly wasn’t produced by either us europeans or is own people
(and it is spelt Augusto Pinochet – OK or piece of scum that my govt should have handed straight over tothe spaniards – see my email for my nationality)
Americans never produced Maximilian Robespierre and the Jacobins.
whether these were a good or bad thing (debatable – my vote is good) – at the time you were not really able to have any influence
Americans never produced Napoleon
(see above – contrast to Pinochet which the yanks/CIA DID bring to power)
When they crash and burn, I’m buying champagne.
In fact that would be a nice idea. Maybe it’s time to start preparations for a world wide SCO deathbed vigil.
Are you sure? invade iraq, vietnam, korea, palestine. at least hitler is one man show, meanwhile the americans..wow..
Guess who else DID USA produced… well, no more and no less than Osama Bin Laden. Trained and financially supported by the CIA when he and his fanatics where resisting the russian movement against Afghanistan ground.
Too bad usa people will never bother to think beyond CNN
Henry Kissinger? You mean the guy in charge of the 9/11 investigation?
Sometimes I think we bomb ourselves just to make the rest of the world not feel so bad when we bomb them twice as hard.
We killed a quarter million people with nuclear weapons to prevent the deaths of several more million after allowing Perl Harbor to happen. But I haven’t the slightest clue why. Possibly because those millions would have been American lives, which are worth more than normal human lives, btw.
We also used napalm in Iraq earlier this year. Whee. We just love killing fools.
I just think we’re hypocrites. But maybe on day we’ll learn.
Allowing people to die, or killing people, to encourage the rest of your nation to act is not a very intelligent thing to do, IMO. But what do I know.
SCO is a fine example of an American corporation. Buy SCO, if you’re a nationalist. Its the perfect time to get rich quick. Hehe.
Really sucks some “arguments” trying to justify the use of nuclear weapons… Really sucks… I can’t believe that exist persons that can think and write this kind of thing..
Pure madness…
How did a “discussion” (read: laugh) about SCO turning into a USA vs. the rest of the world?
Every country has things that they should be ashamed off, Europe enslaved half the world, and forced its belief system on it. And a large chunk of that shameful mistake has forgotten the hatred that you can cause by doing so.
Either was this is irrelevant, now continue to bash SCO like good children!
Other than Anonymous and JSplice did anyone follow the links? If so, did anyone realize the articles were (perhaps tasteless in one case, perhaps very dry in the other) HUMOUR!? I’m just kind of taking a survey here.
If you are really interested in IP cases than you should look at Genetic Technologies
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/20030811_patent/default…
SCO has nothing on these guys.
If they are backed by any MSFT money- serious fur will fly. MSFT already has a damning case against them already. Their alleged dealings with SCO would seal their fate forever.
As for legitimacy of SCO’s claim? The liscense is there, plain as day. There was no misrepresentation of facts. no one sought to wipe out SCO using any means, legal or not.
As for legal malfacience- SCO is building up a damaging case against themselves. If MSFT is involved anywhere, SCO better prepare to file bankruptcy. “Bill” has this appetite.
A nasty guy… sorry.
er… dude? Cold War is over you know! At least last time I checked on the map there was no more USSR.
Needelss to say, Open Source is based on the principle of sharing of thougts. Allowing to develop on what already exists. That was a common practice in science until WWII, and without it there wouldn’be any contemprary science. Just imagine how would thing be if you weren’t allowed to base work on findings of Pitagore, Euclyd, Newton, Einstein or Hawking. Gee, your communist-free world would be so grand would’t it?
He jumped from forty thousand feet without a parachute (x3)
And he ain’t gonna jump no more!
Chorus:
Gory, gory what a H&*@#va way to die (x3)
And he ain’t gonna jump no more!
He landed on the tarmac like a blob of strawberry jam (x3)
And he ain’t gonna jump no more!
Chorus, etc.
SCO is done for now. Though I suppose they can at least plead insanity.
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=sco.com
The site sco.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.3.2-RC on Linux.
So i guess either their proxy or webserver is running linux
Americans never produced Hitler.
Henry Ford was a great “admirer” and “shared” many of Hitlers “thoughts”. IIRC, he also setup a factory in Germany, supplied equipment and also donated to the Nazi party.
Americans never produced Lenin or Stalin.
Relevance? interesting that you bring this up considering that when the successor to Stalin tookover as the chairman of the Polik Bureau he denouced all of Stalins actions. When will we see the US admit the support of the Sha’ in Iran was a complete and utter failure and thus soed the seeds for radicalism and nationalistic Islam?
Americans never produced Mao Zedong.
The Chinese almost 10 years ago deounced “The great leap forward” as a complete failure. When are we going to see the US admit that their support for the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt who over throwed many governments in the name of Islam and anti-communist? this is the same group that is still causing problems in Egypt.
Americans never produced Pol Pot.
Americans never produced the Khmer Rouge.
The US turned a blind eye and supported Pol Pots war agains the Vietcong. The Vietcong, unlike the US, invaded Cambodia and freed the Cambodians from Pol Pots paradise.
Americans (i.e., the United States) never procuded Agosto Pinochet.
US supported, nutured and pushed him into power. Once into power he went on an anti-communist genocide. Sounds a bit like what happened in other countries in South America. Popular Centre-Left is voted in, paranoia in the US so they over throw the administration in favour of something a little more “acceptable”.
Americans never produced Maximilian Robespierre and the Jacobins.
How is that any different to the slavery and witch burning which happened in the US? How come it took longer for the US to abolish slavery that the United Kingdom?
Americans never produced Napoleon.
What horror did Napoleon bring to Europe?
Well, I’m not american and even that I agree that their leaders made a lot of mistakes in the world isn’t correct to stamp on them all these kind of judgements about what they are.
I had traveled to there from time to time and spended a lot of hours talking with them (also living with them). As far as can say, they are nice people, very careful with their families and society. Some of them are conscious about what their government did.
What is a problem for them is that the communication system (news) they have are very biased toward a kind of conservator thought and is aligned with their government for aliens happenings (for internal ones is a bit different). This make difficult for the regular Joe to have a deep clue about the facts.
Well, if all people agree, lets get back to the subject.
America has done something that no other country even thinks about doing…we went to the moon, and more than once. We are still on top and #1 and it will be that way for a long time, so for the rest of the world, you better get used to it. Europe should be kissing our asses for all of the re-building and liberation we did there in the past. You never hear about that though.
Dano.
Sorry to change the subject back to SCO and the GPL, but…
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11063
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11057
“Americans never produced Hitler”
What about KKK ?
goddamn fucking mormons
goddamnfucking mormons
America has done something that no other country even thinks about doing…we went to the moon, and more than once. We are still on top and #1 and it will be that way for a long time, so for the rest of the world, you better get used to it. Europe should be kissing our asses for all of the re-building and liberation we did there in the past. You never hear about that though.
1) The Marshall Plan was an anti-communist measure to stop the spread of communism further west. The roots of communism for in times of despiration just as facism did.
2) The US also claimed that the Star Wars project was an original plan (by the US) whilst completely forgetting that space in the Soviet Union had always been considered it part of the over all defence stratergy. Every Space station, apart from Mir, was used for military purposes.
3) The Soviets were the only country to be able to send a probe to Venus, survive and transmit back pictures of the planets surface. Should Russia claim that as a sucess, yes. Do they boast about their achievements, no. Do they have the problems the US does with the middle east? doesn’t it also seem ironic that the *ONLY* country that seems to have issues with Iran is the US whilst the rest of the world can get along quite nicely.
That’s just insane. GPL is a copyright license that allows people to freely copy the material be it code, binaries, text, etc… as long as they follow the rules outlined in the GPL.
How would it be any different from an artist allowing people to copy his/her music but not being allowed to sell it?
Bascially SCO is trying to say it’s against the law to allow people to allow others to use their IP as the author sees fit?
I’m at a loss on this one. It’s so insane!! lol
Enough said.
Hey Hamilton,
How about all tose despodic reguimes the Americans did support be they puppet dictatorships in South America to Communist alternatives in Asia cause the the American’s couldn’t be bothered supporting their WW2 Buddies after the Nuking of Japan (you know the ones who turned around and humiliated your country in the 60’s and 70’s)?
Also they supported many other despodic reguimes around the world playing keep communism and democratically elected governments away from people cause they challenge our interests, games.
No ones hands are clean in History not even the U.S. of A.
Now M.S. and SCO F- Off
I think it is a good thing. After all, anyone who thought it wasn’t inevitable at some point was kidding themselves.
The GPL will finally get its day in court. Lawyers have been debating for a long time over it. Many lawyers thing the GPL is legally enforcable, while many others claim it is not legally enforcable. Guess we will finally get to find out who is right.
Of course GPL is valid in the rest of world, maybe not in the crazy and alice in wonderland (like someone said) country (USA).
“Of course GPL is valid in the rest of world, maybe not in the crazy and alice in wonderland (like someone said) country (USA).”
What rest of the world? You mean the rest of the world where it doesn’t matter because they just pirate software anyway? In many parts of the world, governments actively pirate software themselves, and they don’t blink an eye when someone is on the street corner selling cracked copies of Office XP for $5.
It look like they got caught in their own trap especially after IBM counter sue. So as a way to release themselves, they start this kind of press release. As usual, they only used the media to make noise. They should have wait for the court give the verdict first if they are really honest.
I thank SCO for something else entirely…providing us with comedy. SCO’s arguments are insane…surely they must be a joke.
Seriously though…I think the courts will say that the GPL is perfectly acceptable and as far as IP infringment goes it will amount to SCO having GPLed themselves…they just don’t get GPL.
The courts in the US will support GPL and will set legal precidence as Jeremy Friesner (IP: —.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) pointed out.
Of course the possibility exists that the courts may decide it is so rediculous that they might throw it out immediately.
“The courts in the US will support GPL and will set legal precidence as Jeremy Friesner (IP: —.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) pointed out.”
I wouldn’t be so sure. After all, if you think SCO is alone in this, think again. They are going to have virtually every major commercial software vendor backing them indirectly, including Microsoft. And I can guarantee you that Microsoft and other commercial software vendors have a louder political voice than GPL software does. After all, these commercial guys pay far more taxes. They also have far more powerful lobbying groups. And when election time comes around, and candidates are looking for money, the software vendors are going to say “Sure… I’ll give you money. But remind me first… What did you do for me last year?”
Yes, judges are not supposed to be partisian biased. But that’s a fantasy. They are biased.
From reading these post i can now with certainty state that Europe, USA, Asia, Middle East etc produce an equal amount of morons. 95%. Figure out which group you are in. Obvisouly few of you fall in the 5% catagory.
Take the absurdly childish ignorant TV politics to another forum.
(Dane living in NYC – Both places filled with Morons).
Europe is governed differently than the US. Accept it. and vice versa. And don’t get started on list of wars or manipulation. Europe still has a good 3K+ years advance on the US in that regard (please remember those nice crusades, but US is playing catch up and doing so well.
Now back to your regularly scheduled transmission