KDE 3.1.3 Released

more version numbers to keep up with!

I checked the KDE KHTML Changelog today in order to find out if the latest Safari/Apple changes were already merged as I’d like to update my khtml in order to use all these changes since i’ve seen it quite often that my safari on the ibook rendered the pages lotsa better than konqueror on my desktop.

but the changelog or that safari_log file didn’t have much valuable information; does anyone know a page or blog or something which i can read in order to keep track of the implementation of the apple changes into the khtml tree?

why would you want to use tools/software designed for the grody, bloated, counter-intuitive system like unix/X11?

Wait a minute, you’re calling unix/X11 bloated? Well Mac users like to brag that OSX is Unix-based so toss that out of your statement, and Quartz faster than X11? At least X11 and its desktop environments don’t need hardware 3D acceleration for decent UI responsiveness.

My main system is an iBook running Jaguar. Yes I agree OSX is nice, but that doesn’t make it better. How is X11 DEs such as KDE counter-intuitive? To you it may be because you’re use to doing things the MacOS way. I know nothing of your background but mine is Windows/Linux and only recently OSX, so to me OSX is counter-intuitive, but it’s all relative to each individual.

And to answer your question as to why we’d want to use other tools and windowing systems instead of OSX’s native stuff:

Because we can. It’s all about choice and having that liberty. In fact I replaced the Aqua theme with a QNX look alike theme, and in my opinion OSX on my iBook feels smoother and more responsive and it looks better

Those changes (some or all?) are intended to be in KDE 3.2. This has been the plan for quite a while in fact. So unfortunately we must be patient for a bit longer.

That’s the price you pay for running a ‘stable’ distro. When NASA updated the computer system on board Hubble just a few years ago – they updated it with a 486 !!! This is because they TEST everything vigirously before they put it into production.

BTW – you can of course get the new update for KDE is you run debian UNSTABLE

I guess they’ll happen eventually. Enormous patch dumps are a bitch to do anything with, especially in the way Apple did it. Marketing comes first for them, co-operation with the projects they are taking from comes waaaaay down the list.

Yes, I’m grumpy. I’ve spent the last several weeks merging patches from TransGaming and even CodeWeavers (!) now, so I feel pretty sorry for the KHTML guys who have a years worth of code to merge in. Ow. Wouldn’t want that job.

As far as I know, everything up to Safari Build 62 has been merged, plus some smaller things and some direct checkins by Apple’s David Hyatt. All this will be released to the public in KDE 3.2 – KDE 3.1.x releases contain relatively small bugfixes only.

That applies to the whole KDE software package, by the way. Judging by the 3.1.x releases, one might assume there’s not a lot happening – the opposite is the case. Development has been at a fast pace for month now; 3.2 will be an awesome improvement. Expect a wealth of new features a better performance on the whole. KDE’s very much alive and kicking.

Ok this could be a bit unrelated but I would appreciate if someone can please tell me if I am doing something wrong.

Installation of new KDE styles. It NEVER works for me. What I do is, I type ./configure then make and make install and I get no error messages but whenever I launch the KDE Contrlol Center, the style does not appear, it’s not listed. I type all the commands using the root user. Even though I get NO error messages, the styles do NOT appear. Why?

I try that out on Mandrake 9.1.

I don’t know Mandrake. Anyway, I suppose the style plugins end up in the wrong place. The proper place is $KDEDIR/lib/kde3/plugins/styles

By default you should find there highcolor.so, keramik.so, kthemestyle.so and light.so.

If the style shows up with the qtconfig utility, it has been installed to $QTDIR/plugins/styles. You then need to copy it to the above path.

Maybe you should ask on a Mandrake forum for proper compilation flags to avoid such hassle.

Thx Guido this certainly helps and it makes a big sense to me Greatly appreciated, I’ll try it out and if it fails, I will end up at Mandrake forums Thx again

Mandrake has a screwed up menu structure and so when you compile a theme, the symlinks and .so files it makes are put in their correct places, which do not work on Mdk.

there are ways around this. See mosfet.org for fuller explanation of the problem.

JohnGalt

My anti-unix comments were ment to be representative of the Mac community’s bromides.

Close, but no banana. Your comments were actually representative of the PC community’s bromides =)

Oh, and congratulations in staying on topic!

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As for KDE 3.x, are there any indications that it’s going to start trimming fat anytime soon? It’s one of the few roadblocks along my way to use *nix on the desktop.

Good Grief

>Wow, thanks Graig!

>I’ll send you my postal address, so you’ll be able to

>post me your Zaurus, since I only have an iBook with OSX.

As QT for OSX is available, and TinyKate (the PDA variant for the Zaurus and iPaq) can be compiled to use just QT (I know, I’ve compiled it myself), someone (you?) could easily compile it for OSX. Surely your programming is better than your spelling

SVG is a vector format, not really suitable for screenshots (and completely unusable for photos, etc.) It wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever.