Today it was reported that IE6’s global usage share continues to rise. Internet Explorer 6 has shown a fast adoptation rate with a global usage share of 66.3% and it has a total global usage share of 95.4%.Netscape’s total global usage share has decreased 0.4 percent the last 2 months. Netscape’s total global usage share is 2.5 percent at the moment.
The global usage share of Apple’s Safari browser has increased with 0.14 percent from 0.11 to 0.25 percent since February 2003.
The global usage share of Mozilla has increased with 0.4 percent from 1.2 to 1.6 percent since February 2003.
>Yeah, it’s too bad that those damn VCR things had to be invented.
I know you aren’t that dumb but as said before if someone wants to believe something there is no hope. How many people use a VCR that cuts out the ads to record the Superbowl for example? And view it later – without ads?
Not many I tell you. If they would nobody would place these ultra-expensive ads during the superbowl anymore = no superbowl anymore. How often should I repeat it all these common means to dodge ads are by no means compareable to real full-automatic total ad blockers. VCRs don’t render TV ads pointless, still most people will see them most of the time. But why do I continue. It’s pointless but I couldn’t resist this time. It’s like doing an anti-racist speech at the meeting of the Nazi Party. But sometimes even something like this can be fun.
>Besides all that, I think there are enough guys out there, such as yourself, who are insecure about their stubby penises, clicking pop-up enlargement ads for the web to remain free for a long, long time.
Thanks 🙂
You just helped me finally winning the discussion. Don’t you know what a pathetic fool you make out of yourself by making comments about “stubby penises”? Are you 15 or what? *LOL*
Whatever I’m right and you’re nothing but little creepy leeches who try to rip-off other people. Not that it matters, you’re just as irrelevant for the web-ad business as your favorite browsers.
Max
“What does an AOL user’s browser show up as? (I ask this because I don’t use AOL). There are a boat-load of folks on the net that don’t know beans about what browser they use, just that it came with AOL.”
I would suspect that it id’s itself as IE, since it is based on it.
>They can stop forcing themselves into my home, over the phone line *I* paid to install, over the DSL *I* pay for, using up *my* bandwidth.
Yeah and what about the bandwidth the owner of the ad-financed site you leech has to pay for? Who pays for this bandwidth *you* use (Internet for dummies: If you download something not just you pay for the bandwidth but also the provider of the download) ? Do you think *he* should pay for *you*? Without you giving anything back?
“If they would nobody would place these ultra-expensive ads during the superbowl anymore = no superbowl anymore.”
Rubbish. They’d find another way to make the money. And even if this were true – so what? That still wouldn’t make ad-blocking morally or legally wrong. It would just mean the death of that particular business model/revenue stream. No-one has a *right* to make money, and we don’t have an *obligation* to view the ads.
“It’s pointless but I couldn’t resist this time. It’s like doing an anti-racist speech at the meeting of the Nazi Party.”
Ah, it’s no longer “cyber-theft”, it’s racism now 😀
And we’re no longer thieves – we’re Nazis! HEIL HITLER, rofl. Once again: this has nothing to do with morality. Your desperate desire to view yourself as some kind of crusader for righeousness is rather disturbing. If you’re serious, I fear for your mental health. I suspect you’re just trolling, though.
“You just helped me finally winning the discussion.”
Lol, hardly.
“Whatever I’m right”
No, you’re not. 😀 Saying it doesn’t make it so.
>They can stop forcing themselves into my home, over the phone line *I* paid to install, over the DSL *I* pay for, using up *my* bandwidth.
“Yeah and what about the bandwidth the owner of the ad-financed site you leech has to pay for?”
I don’t care. It’s not my problem, my responsibility, nor any other concern of mine.
“Who pays for this bandwidth *you* use (Internet for dummies: If you download something not just you pay for the bandwidth but also the provider of the download) ?”
First of all, jackass, I’ve been on the “Internet” for a considerably loooooong time, so you can quite with the “Internet for Dummies” crap.
I pay for my access to my ISP, my ISP pays for their access to their backbone. I really couldn’t care less who else pays for what. It’s not MY responsibility to pay for someone else’s bandwidth, nor allow them to use mine.
“Do you think *he* should pay for *you*?”
NO, just like I shouldn’t have to pay for him….
Why is it that you can see his side, but refuse to see ours?
Are you one of “them”? This whole discussion hitting a little to close to home? Maybe that’s why you like IE so much, you’re vested in it because you profit from it….?
“Without you giving anything back?”
Who says I have to “give back”? What the hell have they given me, other than aggravation? This isn’t a friggin social engineering project.
How often should I repeat it all these common means to dodge ads are by no means compareable to real full-automatic total ad blockers.
Then why do Blockbusters et al allow you to rent DVDs? Especially seeing that you can just skip all the trailers by going to the main menu? If what you’re saying is true then the movie companies would be removing all DVDs from their stores because people have the ability to skip the ads.
Most advertising is a waste of time and also advertising isn’t aimed at people who don’t want to see them its aimed at people who do. Plus the old pop-up ad is considered very ineffective by marketing companies and is discouraged by ‘real’ companies who don’t want to use it because it severely damages their image.
What I DO mind are pop ups. So, if you are a webmaster, you can shove a banner ANYWHERE on the page, just don’t have a pop up or otherwise you will lose a visitor.
>Rubbish. They’d find another way to make the money.
Which way? One way or another you’ll have to pay for it. Just having some ads running during the breaks is a pretty nice way to pay billions of dollars. I prefer it to pay-TV for sure.
>And even if this were true – so what? That still wouldn’t make ad-blocking morally or legally wrong.
Moral is a subjective thing. So anything can be wrong/right, just depents who you ask..
>not legally though
This is of course right. I did not question that fact.
Your ignorance is amazing, really. You consume products/services which cost money – but you don’t give anything back. What’s so hard to understand about it?
>Then why do Blockbusters et al allow you to rent DVDs?
You pay for the DVDs. You don’t pay for ad-financed free-tv/websites.
>I don’t care. It’s not my problem, my responsibility, nor any other concern of mine.
And you complain if I call you “anti-social assholes” *LOL*
>I don’t care. It’s not my problem, my responsibility, nor any other concern of mine.
“And you complain if I call you “anti-social assholes” *LOL*”
Actually, given your responses to everyone else here, I’d say that you are really the one who can be characterized as an “antisocial asshole”….
“You consume products/services which cost money – but you don’t give anything back.”
They don’t cost money (from my perspective anyway), as evidenced by the fact that I can freely block the ads without breaking any agreements with the content provider. They’re broadcasting ads in *the hope* that I will view them. They hoped wrong, that’s all. It was a gamble that they chose to make. If they want more certainty, they’d best switch to another source of revenue that offers it, e.g. subscription.
“Which way? One way or another you’ll have to pay for it.”
No idea. That’s their problem to sort out. When I have to pay for it, I will, if it’s worth the price to me. Until then, I’ll take it as cheap as I can get it. Free gets my vote on this score.
“Moral is a subjective thing. So anything can be wrong/right, just depents who you ask…”
Sure. I don’t dispute that. I was just voicing my disagreement with the view that ad-blocking is morally reprehensible, which is the stance that you appear to hold. My subjective opinion differs from your own on this score. 😀
OneStat.com is the number one provider of real-time web site analytics in the world. Our superior technology powers more than 50,000 websites in 100 countries… Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com’s services by using browser Y.
So these stats are from a drop in the internet bucket. The debate over the real numbers can continue, but as for the originating article it’s only relevant to OneStat customers, who make up a very tiny share of the overall internet. I therefore find their numbers useless in coming to any conclusions.
My browser, Safari, is set to report itself as IE 6.0 for Windows. I do this so my bank’s web page will load. Many, many users of alternative browsers or alternative platforms spoof their browser id string due to bone-headed websites that block anything other than IE on Windows. OneStat can not account for spoofing, which makes their stats useless.
listen to you people….you bitching at each other about a browser…..most people care about one thing…..porno…as long as the porno comes over good….who cares right….lol
you all need to get just a little bit of a life.
You pay for the DVDs.
Yes you do, and the film companies pay for all the advertising to be put on them. If they felt that the user having the ability to fast forward on a VCR or skip them was ‘stealing’ as you are trying to portray then we’d all have our buttons disabled on our VCRs and DVD players.
Also, in the UK half of our channels and a number of radio stations don’t even have adverts and I don’t see the BBC running around complaining about theft.
You pay for the DVDs.
I pay for my internet connection – what’s your point?
While it makes me sick to do so. There are some sites where I have to make Opera “appear” to be IE in order to view the page. Then I change it back to show as Opera for the rest of the sites.
I have yet to run into any significant number of sites like these. If it were a store, I’d simply take my money elsewhere. There is no site that is worth wasting my time like that just to view it. I use standards-compliant browsers, and expect the same from others.
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I’ve read pieces of Dell’s book, a Computerworld interview, and a Business Week interview which is where I picked up Dell’s ‘law’ on commoditization. And I use the word ‘law’ in the same sense as Moore’s Law, Metcalfe’s Law, etc. They are just beliefs with a lot of data backing up the belief.
Michael Dell admits to “a fundamental belief that all technologies over time commoditise”. This process, he claimed, is also transforming high end IT.
http://www.computerweekly.com/Article115263.htm
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“all technology over time commoditizes at its simplest level,”
http://www.bioitworld.com/news/090402_report1108.html
Moore’s Law tells you that any given level of computing power will in effect become nearly free over time. This level is the “good enough” level that most people will be okay with. Because Apple’s business model is based on being substantively better than “good enough”, they will be under tremendous pressure to keep producing luxury computers that stay ahead of the “good enough” zone. With Apple’s rapid decline in market share, you can see that Apple is already failing.
I believe in what Dell has to say about commoditization. There is tremendous pressure towards making technology available to all people. Which will drive a greater and greater pace of delivery, or time to market. In the future, Apple may have a new feature for merely a week or two before it is replicated onto billions of Windows and Linux machines.
All in all, Apple is fighting a very difficult battle, one that is nearly impossible to keep winning. As Apple over the past 5 years has thoroughly failed to keep up with the rest of the computer industry, their future does not look good. Perhaps the vision of Steve Jobs — to make Apple into a high-end media technology company — will save Apple. And that’s why they have blank chapters in the Apple Soap Opera.
“a fundamental belief that all technologies over time commoditise”
Whilst I tend to agree with this philosophy (and fully approve of it – it’s great from the consumer’s point of view), there are a couple of problems with your argument.
The first is that Dell and his company have a vested interest in the commoditization of computer hardware. They’re highly unlikely to forecast their own downfall.
The second is that the commoditization of a product doesn’t necessarily preclude the existence of a flourishing market for a “premium” version of said product. Water is one of the best examples I can think of – it’s freely available from the tap, yet some people still feel compelled to go out and buy expensive bottles of the stuff. And this is despite the fact that the tap water in major cities )e.g. London) has been proclaimed good enough to be bottled.
I know you aren’t that dumb but as said before if someone wants to believe something there is no hope. How many people use a VCR that cuts out the ads to record the Superbowl for example? And view it later – without ads?
Anybody who has recorded ANYTHING to watch later is going to skip the ads. Well, except for you of course.
Not many I tell you.
Yes, and Max the social butterfly would KNOW what everybody is doing.
If they would nobody would place these ultra-expensive ads during the superbowl anymore = no superbowl anymore.
I don’t watch the superbowl, so I don’t care one way or the other.
How often should I repeat it all these common means to dodge ads are by no means compareable to real full-automatic total ad blockers.
Most shows in my area are broadcast in stereo. Most ads, however, are recorded in mono. My VCR pauses whenever it detects a mono stream; therefore, it blocks ads for me just the same way Mozilla does. I don’t have to see them at all.
My Tivo allows me to start watching a show about 15 minutes after it starts and then skip past all the commercials.
It’s like doing an anti-racist speech at the meeting of the Nazi Party. But sometimes even something like this can be fun.
Ah the clever, crafty tactic of those who can’t effectively argue a position. Compare the opposition to the Nazis.
You just helped me finally winning the discussion. Don’t you know what a pathetic fool you make out of yourself by making comments about “stubby penises”? Are you 15 or what? *LOL*
So, because you are stubby, you won the argument? Well, I can’t argue with that logic because I can’t fathom it. But, in all fairness, you warned me up front that you were illogical. Besides, it’s not an insult if it’s true right?
Max, having a discussion with you is like having a thought provoking, discussion with the bulb end of an enema.
Whatever I’m right and you’re nothing but little creepy leeches who try to rip-off other people. Not that it matters, you’re just as irrelevant for the web-ad business as your favorite browsers.
Take that from the master of mental thaumaturgy, the weaver of verbal brannigans, the one, the only, Max.
Max, your philippic against people who don’t watch ads, facts, and the practice of utilizing logic thought and common sense has truly been something to witness. Not fun or enlightening to witness, mind you, but definitely something nonetheless.
This is really fun! So manye people getting so upset about IE being the nr. 1 browser in the world (when it comes to usage that is, not when it comes to quality ofcourse, Opera is better
. Does this really come as a surprise to you?
I wonder how the community would’ve reacted when the article stated: “Mozilla is now the nr 1 browser, statistics conlude”
I bet a lot of you would suddenly start believing in statistics.
But serious now. IE is good enough to just quickly view a web site. When I’m running Windows, I usually use Opera 7.11 to browse (is there anything better?), but when I need to view a page quickly, I’ll use IE, because I know IE will load it pretty fast, and will have no trouble showing it.
Just my opinion though
Use Google Toolbar 2.0 in IE, end of story. I prefer Opera though.
Go fuck yourself, you’re so dumb it is embarrassing.
BTW, this thread is a shameful example of OSNews moderation standards. Which half-way civilized forum tolerates stuff like that (this includes quite some of my own posts of course)?
Really the news are quite good, but the comments section is crap.
Go fuck yourself, you’re so dumb it is embarrassing.
Your mastery of English vocabulary is as abundant as your witty insights into the workings of television, the internet, global marketing, and social responsibility, I see.
BTW, this thread is a shameful example of OSNews moderation standards. Which half-way civilized forum tolerates stuff like that (this includes quite some of my own posts of course)?
I agree. Your posts should have been deleted from the first one on. Your imbecilic rantings have added absolutely nothing to this thread and have been entirely off-topic. You have proven yourself a dolt time and time again. I kept hoping Eugenia would kill your posts and put you out of your misery; but she did not.
Really the news are quite good, but the comments section is crap.
Well, quit spreading it around and you’ll be happy with the site. It’s all up to you really.