I was using Mozilla on Mandrake/Red Hat for awhile, but now that I have Firebird I do A LOT more browsing…it’s so fast and light, with such great themes that are way better than Mozilla’s (check them out here http://texturizer.net/firebird/themes.html) it’s an absolute pleasure to use.
I think Firebird may actually run better on Linux than it does Windows. Since Moz runs kinda slow on Linux, I wasn’t expecting much from Firebird (which runs great in Windows), but was blown away when I first loaded it up.
Anyone currently using Mozilla who has NOT tried Firebird, I highly recommend giving it a test drive
I had the opposite experience. Firebird seems to run faster on Windows XP then on Linux. Go figure. I definitely prefer Firebird…it has a VERY clean UI.
I agree with the other posters about Firebird. Although I still like Mozilla, I find myself using Firebird more and more everyday. It’s by far my favourite browser now.
I been using Mozilla 1.4 RC1, but several performance issues and bugs both on mail and browser clients, but RC2 fixed all of those and now RC3 should be no problem, hope to find some before the final release comes.
And SMTP authentication is still broken for me… It worked in some earlier version, but it has been broken since at least 1.3b, so I can’t send mail with either Mozilla *or* Thunderbird. I sure hope that they FINALLY squash that bug, because it’s a big showstopper.
Last time I looked at Firebird, it seemed that multilingual support was lacking (maybe only English language). Was I just dreaming maybe?
I hope so.
Actually, Firebird crashed on my friends Windows2000 machine twice as I was removing his viruses. This was after I told him how great Mozilla was. I deleted it and told him to keep using IE. Ah well, I’m sure the first real release will be of the same quality as Mozilla 1.0.
In the meantime, I’m sticking with Netscape 7.02 until the language support with Firebird is sorted out.
…That is, if you consider me being able to get into my company’s NTLM authenticated intranet any major step I did a test run of Firebird on our intranet yesterday and I’m able to access nearly every feature that I can using IE6. The only thing that held Mozilla and its derivatives back compared to IE was NTLM authentication. My suspicions are that certain elements of our system are not coded properly (heard under the breath of our IT guy), but IE6 lets you get a little sloppy.
would be nice to have an actual rc3 source tarball…it’s not very cool at all to only have nightly tarballs, and to then make it confusing as to what you’re downloading. Nightly should be the 1.5a branch anyway….oh where oh where is that 1.4-rc3 source?!
This browser is unstoppable. I personally love firebird, and I try and get everyone I talk to to give it a try.
The only feature lacking, IMO, that I have seen elsewhere and that is not in firebird (which says something, because I’ve seen a lot of features) is recovering all open tabs after a crash. Opera used to do this, and even if it did crash a lot, it would be right back up witha ll of my webpages in ~5 seconds. It was like the crash never happened.
Someone of course correct me if there’s some extension to firebird that implements this that I missed.
I was after Japanese. I’m surprised that some of those other languages that it is available in are there and Japanese is not. I’m off to the Japanese mozilla page now to see if there is any news.
Actually, I’m quite satisfied with Netscape 7.02 as it is. It doesn’t crash, runs nicely on my machine.
So this will be the last of the current tree when 1.4 final comes out, and after that they are moving to the Phoenix/Firebird codebase?
Is there any progress on Minotaur/Thunderbird?
I was using Mozilla on Mandrake/Red Hat for awhile, but now that I have Firebird I do A LOT more browsing…it’s so fast and light, with such great themes that are way better than Mozilla’s (check them out here http://texturizer.net/firebird/themes.html) it’s an absolute pleasure to use.
I think Firebird may actually run better on Linux than it does Windows. Since Moz runs kinda slow on Linux, I wasn’t expecting much from Firebird (which runs great in Windows), but was blown away when I first loaded it up.
Anyone currently using Mozilla who has NOT tried Firebird, I highly recommend giving it a test drive
I had the opposite experience. Firebird seems to run faster on Windows XP then on Linux. Go figure. I definitely prefer Firebird…it has a VERY clean UI.
“Is there any progress on Minotaur/Thunderbird?”
Thunderbird now supports themes and extensions. It’s coming along nicely. =)
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/2003-06-17-trunk
I agree with the other posters about Firebird. Although I still like Mozilla, I find myself using Firebird more and more everyday. It’s by far my favourite browser now.
Considering RC2 blew away 3 months of bookmarks, it’s about time Mozilla puts out a new browser.
I been using Mozilla 1.4 RC1, but several performance issues and bugs both on mail and browser clients, but RC2 fixed all of those and now RC3 should be no problem, hope to find some before the final release comes.
Neo Gigs
And SMTP authentication is still broken for me… It worked in some earlier version, but it has been broken since at least 1.3b, so I can’t send mail with either Mozilla *or* Thunderbird. I sure hope that they FINALLY squash that bug, because it’s a big showstopper.
Michael: that’s why you _export_ your bookmarks, and put them somewhere safe.
– j
Last time I looked at Firebird, it seemed that multilingual support was lacking (maybe only English language). Was I just dreaming maybe?
I hope so.
Actually, Firebird crashed on my friends Windows2000 machine twice as I was removing his viruses. This was after I told him how great Mozilla was. I deleted it and told him to keep using IE. Ah well, I’m sure the first real release will be of the same quality as Mozilla 1.0.
In the meantime, I’m sticking with Netscape 7.02 until the language support with Firebird is sorted out.
Oops, there are localized builds, but just not in my language of choice. Ah well.
So far, Mozilla 1.4RC2 is the only stable version I’ve found for WinXP:TE. 1.4RC1 was okay, 1.3.x was horrid, and Firebird has been the worst of all.
Hopefully it will be fixed before 1.5 and the Firebird branching.
Hi!
I’ve downloaded mozilla 0.6 for linux, but cannot get it run How can i start this? Here’s how i tried and the output:
hirisov@Lunar ~/MozillaFirebird $ ./run-mozilla.sh MozillaFirebird-bin
MozillaFirebird-bin: relocation error: ./libxpcom.so: undefined symbol: __builtin_new
hirisov@Lunar ~/MozillaFirebird $ MozillaFirebird
./MozillaFirebird-bin: relocation error: /home/hirisov/MozillaFirebird/libxpcom.so: undefined symbol: __builtin_new
And no configure/Makefile in this release too. Any idea?
thx, hirisov
…That is, if you consider me being able to get into my company’s NTLM authenticated intranet any major step I did a test run of Firebird on our intranet yesterday and I’m able to access nearly every feature that I can using IE6. The only thing that held Mozilla and its derivatives back compared to IE was NTLM authentication. My suspicions are that certain elements of our system are not coded properly (heard under the breath of our IT guy), but IE6 lets you get a little sloppy.
would be nice to have an actual rc3 source tarball…it’s not very cool at all to only have nightly tarballs, and to then make it confusing as to what you’re downloading. Nightly should be the 1.5a branch anyway….oh where oh where is that 1.4-rc3 source?!
Kasper H.: SMTP auth does work for me (with both Mozilla 1.4 rc3 and 1.3.1) on Windows.
I use SMTP over SSL with SMTP auth, however. But if that works, plain SMTP auth should work,too.
Dominik
David, what’s the language you are looking for ? Just curious
Didn’t have that experience here.
This browser is unstoppable. I personally love firebird, and I try and get everyone I talk to to give it a try.
The only feature lacking, IMO, that I have seen elsewhere and that is not in firebird (which says something, because I’ve seen a lot of features) is recovering all open tabs after a crash. Opera used to do this, and even if it did crash a lot, it would be right back up witha ll of my webpages in ~5 seconds. It was like the crash never happened.
Someone of course correct me if there’s some extension to firebird that implements this that I missed.
pascal,
I was after Japanese. I’m surprised that some of those other languages that it is available in are there and Japanese is not. I’m off to the Japanese mozilla page now to see if there is any news.
Actually, I’m quite satisfied with Netscape 7.02 as it is. It doesn’t crash, runs nicely on my machine.