TwoOStwo virtual machine for Windows NT/2000/XP enables running multiple operating systems (OS/2, Red Hat 6 and
WinNT) and its applications simultaneously with the primary Windows NT/2000/XP operating system on a single PC.Trial version of the twoOStwoTM for Windows NT/2000/XP can be downloaded from here (free registration key required). Support for non-OS/2 guest operating systems is limited. Also there are no network support.
You can download twoOStwo TM for Windows NT/2000/XP version 2.1 Release Candidate 1 from here.
I prefer Vmware because linux can be the host operatyng system and run Windows inside the virtual machine.
i hope it is faster than vmware. i’ve given up on vmware on my windos2k/xp/+ install. Whenever i uninstall vmware 3 it totally stuffs up my network cards and network sub-system to the extent that not even a inplace-install can help me
i hope this is fast and they make a buck.
So how many emulators are out there now? 5?
…because VMware doesn’t emulate OS/2, AND looks like it was made to run OS/2 inside Windows.
Anyway, people still need a way to run OS/2 inside Linux, or Bochs to fully mature.
Is there any way to have Bochs not run like a quadriplegic turtle? Even the Be Bootloader takes at least a minute to start off a CD!
I sincerely wish I could a) get a free emulator/VM to work or b) afford VMWare.
Bochs is slow because it is not as optimized and because it IS an emulator.
I think this is the 5th time I am getting to explain the differences between VMware, WINE, VirtualPC and Bochs, but I won’t bite this time.
In short: VMWare is not an emulator, while Bochs is. VMware is therefore much faster. VMWare can’t run on non-x86 compatible hardware, while Bochs can. It is a trade off for portability/speed.
Well, I know the differences. I know Bochs emulates a complete x86 Pc. Shouldn’t there also be a way to have it use more of the host’s resources (or at least more efficiently), though?
Not because they don’t want to optimize it, but because they can’t by all that much. Most full emulators that run “speedily” take short cuts, meaning they normally will only run one OS pretty well (take a guess what everyone needs to run.. look at RealPC on Mac, it’s pretty speedy honestly, but it actually hacks Windows to get that extra boost. Bochs is meant to be an acurate PC emulator to testing, meaning they’ll never cut corners to speed things up.
A Linux version of this program is supposed to be in development. I’m hoping it will be good.
Coming versions of Bochs will probably also feature Plex86. This will bring a great speed-up on comps with a x86 prosessor.
People would be less pissed off when it’s time to reinstall Window XP(3rd time this year) after the bloody TCP/IP gets hoosed down.
*sigh*
“when it’s time to reinstall Window XP”
Maybe it’s time to buy that yellow book “Windows for Dummies”, as most people I know *never* re-installed XP since it’s release … ;-P
Maybe it’s time to buy that yellow book “Windows for Dummies”, as most people I know *never* re-installed XP since it’s release … ;-P
I see you are new to Windows XP!
Don’t go to computing.net and don’t search on “cannot renew my adapter.” Hehehe. Little noob.
Hehehe. Little noob.
I’ve been using Windows XP since it was released. I have helped 5 people install and configure it, two on cable modems, one on DSL, and one on dial-up. I administer a computer lab of 275 computers that we are converting to Windows XP and have been extensively testing for compatibility — and I have never heard of what you are talking about. The posts you refer to at computing.net seem to mostly be people whose MAC addresses are bound to an IP on their cable or DSL modem, and who should be requesting that specific IP address (not using DHCP). I have reinstalled XP twice and both times were pretty much because I felt like it, and not because I couldn’t use it.
You shouldn’t make fun of n00bs, either.
Can anyone give me there keycode becasue for some reason they woon’t give me one and instead of sending it the send porn spam
I’ve been using Windows XP since it was released. I have helped 5 people install and configure it, two on cable modems, one on DSL, and one on dial-up. I administer a computer lab of 275 computers that we are converting to Windows XP and have been extensively testing for compatibility — and I have never heard of what you are talking about. The posts you refer to at computing.net seem to mostly be people whose MAC addresses are bound to an IP on their cable or DSL modem, and who should be requesting that specific IP address (not using DHCP). I have reinstalled XP twice and both times were pretty much because I felt like it, and not because I couldn’t use it.
The dead TCP/IP isn’t a new problem. Win2K has the same problem. Except you can deinstall and reinstall it on Win2K to fix the hosed protocol. On XP, you got to FFR the OS from scratch. IIRC there is a knowledge base number for this on MS support site.
You shouldn’t make fun of n00bs, either.
I know but junior was asking for it!
I never reinstalled XP!
I don’t even want to install it!
Hell, even I am using Unix-like OSes, winduser couldn’t stop to call me, I was supposed to install win 9x, NT, 2000, XP even longhorn. Configuring nic, routing, firewall, nat.
Question: Hell, why you winduser can’t learn and do yourself, couldn’t you understand that I hate windows, cause I see you having Athlon MP or Pentium 4 and new Windows and have bugs and slowdowns that I never experienced on win9x w/ my old Pentium???
I simply can’t purpose them to install *nix they can’t normally work with Windows. Why than defend such system, if you can’t and don’t want to understand how in works?!?
BTW, however I am agreeing Schulman about Win3.1 and Win95 being the same OSes, I can’t call windows – OS, it would be unfair to those, who really try to implement POSIX. I don’t see any progress in POSIX compliance, is Cygwin only way to turn windows into OS, not only nice ui-shell.
Can anybody give me the full list of the existing Virtual Machines ?
Virtual PC form connectix
VMWare
Bochs and some variants
twoOStwo
>Virtual PC form connectix
>VMWare
>Bochs and some variants
>twoOStwo
Plex86
How is that going, last I checked (a long time ago, just after it renamed) is was dieing.
The beta version which looks a lot like Bochs (funny that?) won’t run beos. I am always kind of scared to download anything from a .ru site. Don’t know why, MS server 2003 won’t even load on my new dell server and like others I have had to reload from major crashes winxp so many times I have had to call for a new number a few times. What a sad OS. I know everyone uses it but there must be a better OS. I use almost every known OS at work on thousands of machines. We have QNX and AIX machines that have never ever crashed in 10 years.
1. Linux version soon will be availaible. It’s now in final development state.
2. Download RC1 version. Trial version is too old RC1 is better. I think.
I probably shouldn’t bite, but Ill keep it short and ignorant:
BTW, however I am agreeing Schulman about Win3.1 and Win95 being the same OSes, I can’t call windows – OS, it would be unfair to those, who really try to implement POSIX. I don’t see any progress in POSIX compliance, is Cygwin only way to turn windows into OS, not only nice ui-shell.
I won’t go into why Win3.x and Win9x are different, but if you want POSIX on Windows, you’re pretty much going to have to move to NT(/2k/XP) and get Interix/Services for Unix, or, as you pointed out, Cygwin.
People use windows because it’s easy to start with–even windows 95 was (when you had compatible hardware–where’s my god damn 802.11b linux!) Which distro in 1995 was easy to learn for people who’ve never used a computer and still refer to the computer case as “the hard drive.”
People use windows because it’s easy to start with–even windows 95 was (when you had compatible hardware–where’s my god damn 802.11b linux!) Which distro in 1995 was easy to learn for people who’ve never used a computer and still refer to the computer case as “the hard drive.”
You mean they refer to the computer case as the “CPU.”
When the WIMP metaphor dies *then* computers will become easier. Most people, non power users, don’t know how to deal with folders and files. That’s why I have abandoned all attempts at explaining these to people.
When the WIMP metaphor dies *then* computers will become easier. Most people, non power users, don’t know how to deal with folders and files. That’s why I have abandoned all attempts at explaining these to people.
Maybe you should work on your teaching skills.
It’s hard to teach something what you yourself don’t understand
reintalling winxp because you don’t get an IP address is outright silly.
Maybe you should work on your teaching skills.
It’s hard to teach something what you yourself don’t understand
reintalling winxp because you don’t get an IP address is outright silly.
Maybe you should stick a broom up your silly arse. And tell McAfee that its anti-virus software fvcks up the TCP/IP stack on XP and uninstalling VirusScan fixes it. I solved the problem by pure luck. It could have been anything…
>Virtual PC form connectix
>VMWare
>Bochs and some variants
>twoOStwo
>Plex86
Win4Lin
User Mode Linux and other Linux under Linux projects
Simics
I prefer Vmware because linux can be the host operating system and run Windows inside the virtual machine.
Agreed. . .I don’t understand using Windows as the host OS. Doesn’t it make more sense to use the more efficient and robust operating system as the host and put the unreliable resource hog into the virtual environment? Windows-as-guest I can understand. I would be quite surprised if the Windows-with-OS/2-guest aproach is even half as usable as running Windows as the guest in VirtualPC on OS/2.
1. If you are going to migrate from OS/2 to Windows for some reason you better to have Windows as host and OS/2 as a guest.
2. If you have to use both Windows and OS/2 on the same desktop and you are going to use resource consuming Windows applications (such as MS Office, Adobe Photoshop or .NET) and light OS/2 applications (such as Netscape 4.7). Due to lack of perfomance in this case OS/2 guest option is more suitable.
3. If you Windows user and you are going to try OS/2, eComStation or Linux in safe environment.
You can continue this list… ))