Personally Microsoft still has a long ways to go before it can release a 64-Bit version of its server products. Intel also has a long way to go before Itanium II is accepted by the market. Most are looking towards Optron as the best of the 64-bit chips.
> Personally Microsoft still has a long ways to go before it can release a 64-Bit version of its server products.
MS has been shipping “pure” 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997. Obviously you need to learn a bit of history. 😉
I’m sooOOO excited that microsoft released a 64bit os for the pc platform, this is good for the pc business because Microsoft will continue to dominant the pc market.
Too all you mac zealots and linux fanboys, windows will continue to dominant until eternity. muhahaha >:)
//That doesn’t mean though that they don’t know how to make 64bit OSes, neither that they have stoped to take care of 64-bit specific code.//
Who said it did?
I was just refuting your assertion that Microsoft is “shipping ‘pure’ 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997.”
They’re *NOT* shipping it. They *haven’t* shipped it for four years.
Perhaps they will when Longhorn is released.
But they’re not doing it right now. That’s my (only) point.
I’m not entirely clear it is a pure 64 bit OS – the docs I’ve dug up on it indicate that applications have a 32 bit application address psace running on a 64 bit architecture.
That’s why this Win64 stuff is actually quite new. The verdict is still out as to whether M$ can actually do true 64 bit as well as the big boys, although there is every indication that they can.
I think it’s pretty good to see MS moving to the 64 bit market…. No matter if people would say they are a good or bad competitor, the fact that it’s competition is good.
Assuming they would do it right this time, then we’ll have better stuff on the market then what we currently have.. great work, let the evolution keep moving =)
// XBe
P.s Still though, they have to run fast to catch up with Zeta D.s
—— I was just refuting your assertion that Microsoft is “shipping ‘pure’ 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997.”
They’re *NOT* shipping it. They *haven’t* shipped it for four years.
Perhaps they will when Longhorn is released. ————
-I dunno about that man. . . http://www.sharereactor.com has a alpha of Longhorn. . . it looks pretty sad. I know its just an Alpha, but this is gonna hurt Microsoft pretty damn bad. Especially when the rumors of *nix source in Longhorn are found true. . . (which I’ve confirmed for myself by testing and finding a /mnt/fd0 in a .ini under the WindowsSystem folder in the Longhorn Alpha leak. . . way to cover Bill. . .) which is just showing Microsofts weakness. . . Honestly, why even bother? Then again, maybe it won’t be such a bomb. . .a Linux core with the easy desktop use of Windows. . . I’d actually buy it. See for yourself.
By the way, if you have trouble getting into Share Reactor, don’t sweat it, try again later. . . they have a very flimsy server.
Personally Microsoft still has a long ways to go before it can release a 64-Bit version of its server products. Intel also has a long way to go before Itanium II is accepted by the market. Most are looking towards Optron as the best of the 64-bit chips.
> Personally Microsoft still has a long ways to go before it can release a 64-Bit version of its server products.
MS has been shipping “pure” 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997. Obviously you need to learn a bit of history. 😉
//MS has been shipping “pure” 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997//
FYI, not anymore, they’re not. In fact, not for the last four years or so.
From: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-268986.html
//Microsoft stopped shipping a version of Windows NT for the [Alpha] chip architecture in 1999. //
That doesn’t mean though that they don’t know how to make 64bit OSes, neither that they have stoped to take care of 64-bit specific code.
Please use the same Header/synopsis with a “RE:” to the comment you are replying to.
I’m sooOOO excited that microsoft released a 64bit os for the pc platform, this is good for the pc business because Microsoft will continue to dominant the pc market.
Too all you mac zealots and linux fanboys, windows will continue to dominant until eternity. muhahaha >:)
//That doesn’t mean though that they don’t know how to make 64bit OSes, neither that they have stoped to take care of 64-bit specific code.//
Who said it did?
I was just refuting your assertion that Microsoft is “shipping ‘pure’ 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997.”
They’re *NOT* shipping it. They *haven’t* shipped it for four years.
Perhaps they will when Longhorn is released.
But they’re not doing it right now. That’s my (only) point.
I’m not entirely clear it is a pure 64 bit OS – the docs I’ve dug up on it indicate that applications have a 32 bit application address psace running on a 64 bit architecture.
That’s why this Win64 stuff is actually quite new. The verdict is still out as to whether M$ can actually do true 64 bit as well as the big boys, although there is every indication that they can.
P
I think it’s pretty good to see MS moving to the 64 bit market…. No matter if people would say they are a good or bad competitor, the fact that it’s competition is good.
Assuming they would do it right this time, then we’ll have better stuff on the market then what we currently have.. great work, let the evolution keep moving =)
// XBe
P.s Still though, they have to run fast to catch up with Zeta D.s
—— I was just refuting your assertion that Microsoft is “shipping ‘pure’ 64-bit Windows NT (where Server 2003 and 2000 are based on) for the Alpha platform since 1997.”
They’re *NOT* shipping it. They *haven’t* shipped it for four years.
Perhaps they will when Longhorn is released. ————
-I dunno about that man. . . http://www.sharereactor.com has a alpha of Longhorn. . . it looks pretty sad. I know its just an Alpha, but this is gonna hurt Microsoft pretty damn bad. Especially when the rumors of *nix source in Longhorn are found true. . . (which I’ve confirmed for myself by testing and finding a /mnt/fd0 in a .ini under the WindowsSystem folder in the Longhorn Alpha leak. . . way to cover Bill. . .) which is just showing Microsofts weakness. . . Honestly, why even bother? Then again, maybe it won’t be such a bomb. . .a Linux core with the easy desktop use of Windows. . . I’d actually buy it. See for yourself.
By the way, if you have trouble getting into Share Reactor, don’t sweat it, try again later. . . they have a very flimsy server.
Well, seems It’s been a while since I’ve visited share reactor. They have a copy of Windows Server 2003 up now. . . Whaddya know
I’ll have to give a try. . . Maybe I can actually host a decent game server on this crap cable eh? . . .
Or maybe it’ll be shit, like I expect it to, and I’ll just use Redhat 7.3 like I always do to host and 9.0 as my desktop