Submitted by The Microsoft corporation has become OpenBSD’s first “Gold Level” sponsor after a large donation. (Facebook and Google are both silver contributors). The move is likely related to Microsoft’s use of OpenSSH in future versions of Powershell. Meanwhile at the FreeBSD site companies LineRate, NetApp, Google, Hudson River Trading, and Netflix dominate the top sponsors. Noticeably absent was the Apple Computer Corporation who base their OSX and IOS systems off of the free software BSD systems. More info about OpenBSD’s 2015 fundraising campaign here.
If Microsoft is trying to earn good will with their free Windows 10 upgrade, linux support for dev tools, and backing of open source projects… well it’s working, at least it has for me.
they said its the last Windows OS and last OS will used the dying old NT kernel, Microsoft will going have a fresh start on a newer OS and name..
Or they are trying to get a version of LibreSSL for Windows as soon as possible.
No, it’s really simple.
They want to have proper SSH support for Windows:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2015/06/03/looking-forwa…
the bsd support is because they want something, plain and simple.
you forgot about continued efforts at patent extortion. These moves by MS aren’t because they are so good and nice, it’s that they think this is necessary for their survival, considering their failure in the mobile market. Having platform specific tech works as long as you control the market but becomes a liability when your platform is barely there. An easy path is to push your proprietary tech to other platforms, which allows them to control the future of that tech in case it actually succeeds, then watch the bad behavior kick in again.
The windows 10 move makes sense if they are using it to push hard their app store where they can take a cut of every software sale made in contrast to the traditional windows 3rd party software model where they get nothing.
It is really sad that while every Linux distribution out there uses OpenSSH, the Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative has nothing to say about funding it.
For one time Microsoft is doing the right thing, while the linux distributions aren’t.
Good for the OpenSSH/OpenBSD guys: they deserve every cent they get and hopefully they will never ever have to ask for electricity money again.
Uh? Perhaps you should inform yourself about the basic facts before indicting others. OpenSSH is literally one of the first projects the Linux Foundation CII funded last year:
ref: http://www.securityweek.com/openssl-openssh-ntp-get-funding-core-in…
“did get” or “will get”? They’re not listed as a financial contributor to OpenBSD/OpenSSH anywhere as far as I can tell.
OK, I missed the announcement, however it is only PR … there’s nothing this year and while they gave money last year, is is certainly not as much as Microsoft (which is not huge either).
Furthermore no (major) linux distribution contributes and the LF completely ignored LibreSSL, by the same team.
Edited 2015-07-11 21:04 UTC
It’s not as if Apple’s recent attempts at writing Unix code worked out. WiFi. Networking. Problems. Months. On end.
Apple should stick to emoji designs and leave the core Unix tools to the experts. And contribute.
Edited 2015-07-09 20:28 UTC
It seems like you’re saying that every piece of code Apple writes is by default “Unix code”. I’d suggest the opposite. With each new feature Apple adds, they distance themselves from their BSD/Nix heritage.
Neat. Thank you for your support, Microsoft.
Good for both the OpenBSD clan and Microsoft. Also good for Powershell. Lets hope the third time’s the charm.
“who base their OSX and IOS systems off of”
Surely you mean:
“who base their OSX and IOS systems on…”
No-one says “off of” after realising how bad it is grammatically and linguistically. Terrible slang.
As a building base grammatically you are correct you do build on top of… I will try to avoid that mistake in the future.
Thanks
As a great man once said:
“That is the sort of thing up with which I will not put!”
It is a shame that Apple is not funding FreeBSD. Are there “non-public” donors? Could they contribute in the shadows?
At this point, it would not really make sense though.
looks like microsoft is planning to ditch NT for BSD kernel, so the only way to compete with Linux is join them like Apple and Blackberry then Google..
If I remember my Internetese correctly, I believe the appropriate response is “LOL wut?”
Not an expert of kernel. But I read from an authoritative source(don’t have time to dig it again) that the NT kernel is well-designed and even superior, sure they can replace the win32/64 API but no way they would replace the NT kernel.
source? or more info fort this?
No idea if this is true or not but that was my first thought.
IMO, it would be a good move on Microsoft’s part to ditch the legacy NT kernel code and use something that already works. They can still offer the old Windows 8/10 as a VM with it’s NT-based kernel for legacy stuff.
Yeah right, ditch a kernel capable of handling threads and asynchronous IO at a level most UNIX kernel still don’t for an UNIX kernel.
If NT is legacy, then OpenBSD is even more legacy, given its age.
Forget how well Windows can handle threads – for OpenBSD, tt’s worse than that: OpenBSD’s kernel isn’t multi-threaded. Perod.
This is unlike virtually every other Unix-like kernel out there. And it won’t be anytime soon. To paraphrase de Raadt, multi-threading is hard, security wise.
This is why, as much as I love everything else about OpenBSD, I can’t stand trying to use it as a daily OS. So many great things come from it, but a high performance server or desktop OS it is not. The lack of multithreading means the 8 total threads in my system are no faster than a single core Pentium 4 at the same clock speed, and it shows.
That’s a shame too, because (with the possible exception of Haiku) it has the fastest and easiest installation of any Unix-like OS I’ve ever tried. I suppose if systemd ever worms its way into Slackware, I’ll be left with little choice but to switch to a BSD full time, and I’d be torn between the speed and compatibility of PC-BSD or the simplicity and security of OpenBSD.
Almost. bsd.mp will schedule user processes across multiple cores, and utilize those cores fully. The kernel itself is a single thread, though, so it may get slow if enough threads are doing i/o.
My experience has been that it’s always slow, even using the mp kernel. I had my Haswell based system running OpenBSD 5.7 and it seriously felt as slow as the Pentium D machine sitting right next to it, running 5.6. Both were on the mp kernel. The Pentium D was clocked at 3.4GHz, the Haswell is 3.2GHz.
Rabidly proprietary company funds rabidly open OS.
I wish Microsoft would make an open source BSD-based operating system with great features from the NT Kernel. And while at it, I think Microsoft seriously needs to make a brand new file system.
Perhaps something like ReFS?
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831724.aspx
You must be saying exactly that Microsoft needs to add another error in addition to their failed Nokia acquisition.
What features do you feel NTFS is lacking? Its not BTRFS or ZFS, but its pretty dang good. Like ext4 or XFS Good. And its been that good since it was designed. I really think its the best piece of code MS has ever written.