Yoper limited announced the fourth public release candidate
of Ydesktop. This is the first part of Your Operating System that Yoper Limited (“Yoper”) is developing. The distro contains the latest software, which includes Linux-2.4.20, KDE-3.1, Mozilla 1.2.1 and OpenOffice-1.0.2. The CD is optimized for i686 and higher X86 CPU’s.
Yoper RC4 Released
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Indeed, KDE is nearly unable to run on a low end processor, so compiling only for i686 makes sense. Especially for the Linux trolls, which are persuaded that the the i686 flag compil gives some enhancement ( this is only true for the kernel ). But one more time, this is very well targeted, KDE seems to be intended for the Linux trolls, anyway, i have never seen this imitation of desktop used by anybody else.
And they dare to propose to pay. Who will want to pay for a kde distro ? This is the only weakness for Yoper ;-)))
If so, would you recommend it?
small
fast
and now with alsa support…
no bloatware like manbdrake, red crack etc.
should be rock solid.
i’ve been saying for a while that there should be a straight up KDE distro…this is the closest thing to it without all the baggae other distros have.
YDestop looks strangely similar to kde 🙂
This distro also claims to have compatibility with .deb packages and also has APT installed, but I simply couldn’t get it to work. Quite frankly there is nothing in this distro that makes it stand out from the rest. I recommend J.A.M.D for a KDE distro.
Apt isn’t working yet, but what the poster didn’t mention is that this feature apprently will not be supported until the official (ie, “$$”) release of Yoper.
I’ve had great success getting RPM’s from other distributions to install, in addition to outstanding performance from my compiled installs.
Yoper is tight, well-integrated, and really shows what’s possible with KDE (unlike many of the more popular “all-in-one” Linux’s which install every GUI under the sun, but aren’t really optimized for any specific one).
Wine-enabled apps (courtesy of CodeWeavers) run faster and more solid than they have under any Redhat or Mandrake install for me. In addition the support I’ve received on the Yoper site (before they pulled the support boards down for re-tooling for their commercial release) was quicker, and more specific than I’ve received under any other Linux distribution.
The one and only drawback I can say about yoper is that the release candidates are so complete, that it’s hard to justify upgrading to the next, much less the commercial release.
I’m not really too clear on what they’re doing with their upgrades (way too busy to dig down to that level), but for every RC so far, they’re reccomending a complete reinstall rather than upgrading. I hope RC4’s different though as it’s a big pain to backup a 2GB home directory, reinstall it and reinstall all the helper apps that unfortunately did not get installed to the Home folder. A complete update would be much more preferable.
Other than that… Give it a try. It’s really one of the best “desktop” distro’s I’ve used.
KDE is nearly unable to run on a low end processor, so compiling only for i686 makes sense.
Look at http://www.guiadohardware.net/linux/kurumin (the site is in pt_BR
. Morimoto made a hell of a work to make KDE run consuming 44MB of RAM.
Anyway, they looks like using GCC 3.2, which is a GoodThing(TM) for i686 processors.
“I hope RC4’s different though as it’s a big pain to backup a 2GB home directory, reinstall it and reinstall all the helper apps that unfortunately did not get installed to the Home folder.”
dude…set up a totally independant partition. i have a fat 32 partition that I use for all my personal files, which never, ever, gets deleted. my wife also has seemless access to them when she uses windows….
You know… I’ve done this for my data files, but I’ve always perceived a degradation of performance when accessing Fat32 disks in Linux vs. a native ext2/3 partition.
Not a huge one, but I’ve always gone with keeping my data in a central/fat32 area, and my Linux installs (OS + Programs) due to it.
I’m guessing that you’re not perceiving a huge speed decrease for programs installed there though?
I’m about two seconds from filtering all my OSNews hits through a Perl script that removes everything from Xavier.
To Xavier> First, stop trolling. Second, of *course* KDE is aimed at UNIX users! It doesn’t run on Windows! Third, stop trolling.
As for i686 optimization, it does make a difference. Contrary to Xavier, it doesn’t make all that much difference in the kernel, which is algorithm and I/O bound more than anything. Things that are CPU bound (bzip/gzip, KDE redraw, XFree, glibc, etc) do get a boost. In all, it’s not a huge boost, but 10-20% isn’t unusual. Think of it as a couple of bins increase in CPU speed for no extra cost
Pentium 4 optimizations, however, *do* make a difference, because the P4 is so different from previous processors.
Just make a seprate /home partition and you should be set. No need to back stuff up.
I see from the changelog they took the nvidia binaries out. Did nvidia give them trouble for including them I wonder?
Some people have been asking about Yoper, and I was curious myself, so I’ve downloaded it and I’m running it now (RC 4).
So far it’s not half bad. The install is pretty ugly, but it works well enough. Hardware detection seems to have gone off pretty well, except that it doesn’t seem interested in letting my monitor do 1152×864, despite my pleading.
One thing that’s really annoying about it, though, and I hope they can fix it, is that the font smoothing is really ugly. It’s turned on by default, and I have no problem with that (even in Mozilla, surprisingly), but — and this is on a CRT that doesn’t show this in any other distribution or in Windows XP — all of the letters have little discolorations kind of like the way AA sometimes looks on LCDs. This is true in KDE and GTK apps alike, and it’s gross; it looks like someone puked alphabet soup on my screen.
Aside from that, though, it seems very solid, and very desktop oriented. I haven’t been testing it long enough to have any clue about stability. I have to say, though, that I really don’t get the name. “Your Operating System” gives it the feel of a children’s toy, or a dull pair of scissors for the mentally less gifted. Obviously the name isn’t a big deal, but I have to confess that I’m slightly biased against this thing from the start because the name feels stupid, just like “My Computer” does.
Yoper what a complete joke. When last I tested this “OS” thier version of LILO completely ignored other OSes I had installed. There were some other minor issues as well, btu I thought with all the rave reviews ont he yoper message board I’d poat those issues there for answers and explanations.
Well guess what that yoper messsage board admins edit and censor your posts! I wish them all the failure in the world with glaring problems like not making a dual boot friendly OS and chaning the words of their beta testers to reflect a positive image for thie organization. Stay away from this “distro” , Mandrake 9.1 betas are much better than the crap Yoper puts out.
1)Stop trolling.
2)YOS is fast and reliable. If you can’t setup lilo, read the man page. It’ simple as writing 3 lines of configuration.
3)YOS, even if it’s fast and reliable, is not 1.0. It’s RC4, and the installer is being modified.
4)Don’t know about what happens in message boards. Maybe you’re right, maybe not. I hope you’re not.
im running dualboot with win xp and yoper using yopers lilo install with no probs.
*cough* pilot error *cough*
Regarding LILO, My Lilo install didn’t see any of my other partitions, but neither has Mandrake or Redhat for that matter. Just edit your Lilo, or if you’re really being smart, keep a backup copy and just edit it as needed.
As for the boards… While I have seen posts disappear, all the ones I’ve noticed were taken downdue to their redundancy. One’s complaining about various features were left up (unlike *certain sites* which you’re all familiar with). If they’re deleting posts, they’re probably off-topic trolls such as yours (ie, Trolls).
Oh! And as for the font issue someone mentioned… I’ve had every Yoper release installed since RC1 (back during their bootdisk experiments), and the fonts have never looks anything but wonderful on my system. Dunno what’s up with yours, but I would guess that you’re the exception.
Personally, Yoper’s been the best distribution I’ve ever ran IMHO. As the old saying goes, if you don’t like it, either improve upon it, or go to one of the umpteen other Linus distributions out there. Flaming on about Yopers message board admins and their Lilo ethics is just retarded at this point -As someone else pointed out, Yoper’s not even at 1.0 yet, so technically, they owe no one nothing.
I’m currently using RC3 and it’s the best distro I’ve used to date. The install could not have been easier. I’ll be replacing my RC3 with RC4 tonight hopefully. I can’t wait for the 1.0 release.