The team is also responsible to promote and spruce up devices that are based on Tizen, an open-source mobile operating system built by Samsung. Tizen-based devices will be introduced in the Indian market in November. “It will coexist with the Android devices,” he said.
A number 210 for Samsung, please.
And why would someone should choose Samsung tizen over iPhone,android & windows phone? These phones offer much more then just a phone.
Maybe because Tizen runs better in lower-end hardware.
You mean like Firefox OS already does?
I have an alcatel onetouch fire and couldn’t be happier. And I can pronounce it without tech nerds telling me “It’s not pronounced like that *roll_eyes*”
Well, Firefox OS is really neat as a mobile OS on a day to day basis. But coming from webOS I still miss the console from time to time. And while I really enjoy playing around with the Firefox OS SDK because creating apps is so damn easy, I can´t shake the feeling that all I´m holding is Android hardware with an android kernel running Gecko on top of it.
I don´t think I would ever opt for Tizen, tough. A Jolla on the other hand would be tempting, but right now I use my Pre3 as my main phone and follow Firefox OS nightly on the Flame. Also, using another Phone OS that is backed by only one vendor would be too much for a webOS veteran….
Of course a “normal” user wouldn´t care at all and I think my mom will get a ZTE Open C for Xmas because her Nokia is showing some decay.
So your assumption is that Tizen devices will be cheaper than comparably performing Android devices.
This may or may not happen. I bet it won’t. Android is dirt cheap and fast enough now, unless you go to a very low end with 128-256MB RAM. Firefox OS is realistically targeting that, not sure about Tizen’s positioning.
I don’t think those are good comparisons. Something comparable is Sailfish. That should have a similar target audience.
For power users normal Linux like Tizen or Sailfish offer more than just a “phone” – a portable handset computer with powerful tools and control over it[1]. In comparison competition offers locked down and dummified toys. It doesn’t mean they aren’t useful for a lot of people. But you asked why would anyone chose this instead.
[1]: That would of course also can depend on how much Samsung would mess it up with unlockable bootloaders and other DRM junk.
Edited 2014-09-22 01:31 UTC
Tizen is supposed to be HTML5 only. It’s not meant for power users.
Why does HTML5 mean ‘not power user’?
shmerl said a ‘normal Linux’ like Tizen or Sailfish offers more to a power user. Tizen isn’t a normal linux, as it’s limited to web applications.
Or so I thought, since that was what was promised from the start. The Wiki now says it allows native applications, and even supports Qt (although as a third party SDK). Maybe it will end up as something worth using, after all.
https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=platform/upstream/qtbase.git;a=short…
Looks as Qt, even 5.3.1, is in tizen-common now? Very blur whats going on in and with Tizen.
Edited 2014-09-22 14:26 UTC
Since when?!?
https://developer.tizen.org/documentation/dev-guide/2.2.1?redirect=h…
Since the beginning. <strike>I have no idea when it changed, </strike> Native code seems to have been allowed since February 2013:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen#History
Yeah, I’ve really ignored Tizen development.
It’s not. It has native code support.
The same reason people buy tablets instead of desktop computers: their use-case does not require all that power.
A tablet in addition to a desktop computer or laptop, sure.
But a tablet instead of a desktop computer? so portable and tiny screen and apps and no extension ports and touchscreen instead of fixed location, giant screen, programs, a whole slew of extension ports and keyboard+mouse.
that doesn’t sound like a replacement at all, but a whole different use case. Nothing to do with “don’t need that power”
Don’t need the power is a different use case. We have gotten to the point where something like a Nexus 7 or iPad actually is enough for many people, particularly non-techies. It’s simple, portable, fast, and easy for them to manage. Touch-screen keyboard is no problem because many of these people don’t touchtype anyway. No ports? Who cares. I have non-tech family and friends who have laptops. They have no, repeat no, devices hooked into them. The ports are unused. Everything you named as a disadvantage in your post is actually an advantage for them. They not only don’t need all that power, but they don’t even want it. Many of them have gone to tablets already, and aside from those with vision problems that need a 17-inch screen, most of the rest are planning to either get a tablet or a Chromebook when the time for a new computer comes around again.
I am very pleased with my Android phone (Nexus 5) and would not want to switch back to an iPhone, which I used for three years. Still, it seems to me development of handsets has not reached end of line yet. I always feel there should be a way to design a phone that is significantly more comfortable and efficient to use, only I could not say how. If some contender manages to pull that off they still have a chance to unseat the two incumbents in the mobile OS realm.
This isn’t crying wolf. This is legal prep’ing.
Isn’t this the third time this year they’ve threatened to release a Tizen phone? First, NTT DoCoMo was supposed to release one, but cancelled it in January. Then there were reports they’d release one in India in June, which also didn’t happen. And there was supposed to be a developers’ conference in Russia in July, which also didn’t happen. It really does make one wonder what they’re playing at.
Edit: Yep, I remembered right: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/09/19/samsung-hopes-third-times-th…
Edited 2014-09-22 08:07 UTC