“Finland is Nokia. Nokia is Finland. I’ve traveled to quite a few number of countries this year, and the only place where I see Lumia phones is this chunk of ice that I call home. According to the Finnish business publication Taloussanomat, who references data from IDC, Q1 2013 was the first quarter where mobile phones from the South Korean handset maker Samsung outsold those designed in Espoo. If that’s not alarming, I don’t know what is.” Ouch.
Wonder what all the Elop supporters have to say about this. “Oh, he’s doing great! At least Nokia ain’t dead yet!”
Surely this can’t be too much in Microsoft’s favor either, with what is now a major Microsoft-only phone shop dropping down the charts even in its home country.
Edited 2013-05-29 17:56 UTC
I thought nokia sold Asha and Symbian phones…
Which is why it would be interesting to see a breakdown of the Nokia share. Because if it’s anything like the rest of the world, their sales of Windows Phone handsets would be increasing at the same time as their share is falling because of Asha/Symbian falling off.
Symbian is somewhere below 0.1% already. No its-because-of-(us-burning-)symbian excuse possible any longer.
According to the source Samsung outsold Nokia in both segments, featurephone (Asha) and smartphone (Lumia). Nokia is losing even in its traditional strong homeland. There is no but attached and no happy end in this suicide story.
Edited 2013-05-30 08:22 UTC
I’m from Finland and apart from one Motorola NMT phone back in the nineties, I’ve always had Nokia phones and been generally very pleased with them. Now I’m stuck with the N900 as it was pretty much the last good thing to come from Nokia. I wouldn’t even consider the Lumias and what contact I’ve had with them is fixing constant problems from phones of my friends and family. Android seems horribly cluttered and slow and iOS is not for “power users” (we used to call them nerds) like me. After my N900 dies I probably just have to revert back to my good old 2110.
I have been in Helsinki and Espoo a few times.
During my travels there I got to appreciate how things changed from everyone carrying Nokia mobiles on the streets to seeing most young Finns with iPhone and Android devices.
My last time there was in 2010 and it was quite sad to see the Nokia store with more employees than clients.
In 2010 it was still Nokia all along, young, old, nerd or user*. Today finland has few Nokia shops or even sales personal left. Outside of finland even lesser. In 2010 working for Nokia earned you fame among fins, old, young, every fin. Today its more a kind of “I am sorry” look**. There isn’t much illusion left where Nokia is heading to***.
*Compare sales figures and market share of 2010 with 2013.
**First non-fin CEO, first non-fin product, a spectacular downfall since then, there are not much fins left who don’t know somebody that lost his job at Nokia under Elop.
***”Are you aware that results are what matter?” (Nokia shareholder meeting Q1)
Edited 2013-05-30 08:40 UTC
Nokia was the reason I was flying a few times to Finland…
Is there any reason why you’re ruling out a jolla phone? Sounds like its the closest thing you’d be able to get.
That’s what I was wondering about, too. I quite liked my N900, but the SDK was a major hassle to setup and use and the OS on it is full of rough corners everywhere. With that notion I personally will go for Jailfish like a dog goes for a bone as soon as they release one with a larger display.
Yes, while I’m quite interested in what Ubuntu eventually produces, Jolla looks to really have their act together with “MeeGo Next”. The Other Half hardware has interesting potential as well. Hope they make it to the USA soon after Europe.
I’m not ruling it out in fact they’re my last hope for a good phone. They just haven’t been able to actually deliver any phones yet.
And here I am in South Korea and I try to avoid Samsung products.
Any reason so far ?
Kochise
Samsung is seen as ‘evil’ by certain demographics in SK, given the sheer amount of political, economic and perhaps social power it can and does exert.
That’s lobbying, and I bet not only Samsung is into it.
Kochise
Its not just lobbying. Samsung is a huge conglomerate. You can literally live a Samsung only life. Google it and you’ll understand.
OSbunny,
“Its not just lobbying. Samsung is a huge conglomerate. You can literally live a Samsung only life. Google it and you’ll understand.”
Er, don’t you mean “samsung it”
Yes, their power is considerable; far, far greater than would be that of Google, Apple and Microsoft combined in the States in relation to the national polity and economic structure as a whole in SK, on account of the diversity and depth of its manifold operations. It won’t be South Korea that saves North Korea when it finally collapses, it will be Samsung.
What a pity.
Recently my HTC broke down, forcing me to revive my old trusty Nokia E65. What a blessing is this retro-phone
After 3.5 years using an iPhone 3G and 2 yrs of using an HTC with custom roms, I find myself using a REAL phone again.
Battery life is great with 3+ days (the battery still works, while it hasn’t been charged for 5.5 years.), call quality and reception is exceptional and I really like having a physical key to hang up!
By todays standards this symbian smartphone is not very smart, but as a phone it is still one of the best.
Too bad the nokia days are over.
We were all the first to follow the smartphone hype, thus to blame for Nokia’s decay. Sure they could have made a Symbian/Meamo touch phone faster, but you know, marketing people…
Kochise
You should try out the Bold 9900/9930. This was the first/last RIM OS to have a keyboard and touchscreen. The Q10 is OK too.
I remember being pretty happy with my Nokia N73 a few years ago. At the time it had the best camera on the market and was pretty good with email and internet for a small screen phone. Pity they didn’t keep up with Symbian or I wouldn’t have had to switch to Blackberry. OK, this was a bad idea in the long run, but the first Storm was way ahead of any Nokia at the time, and iPhone was just a toy for the Apple fanboys. Switched again to an S3 now, my carrier was offering it for free on my contract, no brainer really!
Yeah! Free phone! Why would you switch to a sim only contract where you don’t pay for a phone each month right?
Perhaps because sim-only contracts have much higher call rates?
(Then again, at least here in Hungary, if an S3-category phone is offered for free, you’d have to take the most expensive contract with a monthly fee so high you’d be almost better off just buying the phone for full price + taking a cheap contract.)
The W8 is over!
Doesn’t every one just totally love the Lumia so they will pay at least as much if not more than for whatever else?
That the secret MicroSauce will make integration with Windows so much better?
I still want an N950. But can’t get one. Even the N9.
It will be bad when Blackberry passes Nokia.
Voi paska.
on top of recent Nokia fails, to my opinion,
recently I have swiched to my old N6310i, I have found myself more than happy, with all the features and options of the phone more than 10 years old. what is most amaizing is that battery still works, for more than 4 days talk and standby.
Nokia should go back deep to the roots, and reinvent itself.
Any suggestions? Maybe they can start making mobile games.
eeee, just comparing nokia phones now and then.
6310i at 2002+ was the nokia`s business flagship.
my one used more than 5 years quite extensively and some more 5 years hold in the box in the basement.
It is quite unscrached, still works, good battery too. And its made from the same old plactic, everybody are pist off now.
apparently there was a time, when cell phone build could be done from plactic and still had quiality.
+ it has all the features, blue tooth, infrared, gprs. In fact I use it via blue tooth with my laptop to get the net. Not bad for 10year phone. Good reception too, in the places where my smartphone has panic.
To the contrast my old htc hero, past away after 3 years of extensive use.
… And still true:
http://www.osnews.com/thread?464534
🙁
Sealed. Vodafone can learn 200-300 things from people like you 🙂
Edited 2013-05-30 14:43 UTC
N73?
I still use it as a second phone. When I receive a new SMS it takes 13 seconds for it to appears after clicking show.
I think it’s a bit like trying to use a Pentium 2 computer. Sure it works, nostalgia and whatever, but no patience for it now days.