“A lot of people are watching Miguel de Icaza, a bubbly young Mexican programming whiz behind an unusual project he named ‘Mono’, Spanish for monkey. Icaza’s company, Ximian, has already produced software called Evolution that gives users of the free, open-source Linux operating system e-mail and calendar tools comparable to those that run on Microsoft’s Windows operating system.” Read the article at SiliconValley.
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I’m amazed. There is a bigger fool than Cringely, after all!
People are still hyping Suse’s “Desktop” which can run Office without Windows. Big Deal, Xandros and others had it long ago for cheaper.
i just thought that’d make a nice title is all! thankyou
> I’m amazed. There is a bigger fool than Cringely, after
> all!
You know, the fact that .NET came from Microsoft doesn’t necessarily make it a bad idea. And with Mono it’ll even be open-source… the best of both worlds, so to speak. After all, admit that, setting aside the marketing aspects of .NET, it is a pretty neat idea, technically.
Preatty neat idea eh? All I see is running software ever more inefficiently, and thus causing ever more increasing hardware requirements. Lets also note that this idea has already been tried before (more than once). Everyone wants to untie software from hardware, but you can’t do that without paying a price (space/speed).
Software will always get more bloated, take a look at gnome, kde, windows, and OS X. At least with .NET you will be able to compile once and run your application on any platform once mono is completed; I think that’s a pretty good tradeoff.
> At least with .NET you will be able to compile once and run > your application on any platform once mono is completed
Unlike Java, which you compile once and run on any platform..
Can’t monkey face-Miguel see that .net is just another MS-attempt to kill Java? An attempt with the downside that as a developer, you no longer need to know one single language – you must be prepared to bump into an applications written in several languages at once..yukk!
And he’s naive enough to believe that MS will support an alternative that makes Windows obsolete..fool, fool, fool. Maybe there is a connection between looks and intelligence after all?
—.swipnet.se >> Maybe there is a connection between looks and intelligence after all?
Poor taste for words.
Think more, write less.
see? Microsoft does SOME things that arent bad :oD
seriously though if people would stop worrying about “what is microsoft trying to do here” and look at the actual tools and what they do… i think theyd realize they dont deserve the bad rep they get…
although i still think compiling to native code is a better idea even if its not super-ultra-hyper portable
unless you are into the nerd look and perpetual bad hair days!! Take a look at Stallman too – yikes – damn desparate too (or its cover for a pinker side) — he’s got a personal ad on his homepage!!! Bad looks are all over the place! I think Ellison though considers himself a stud.
Anyway, this has been gone over in depth! No one wants to bet against Microsoft so it is good for Linux users to have .NET on their side so companies won’t ignore them.
Not everyone thinks every decision has to be made with a revolutionary “hate Microsoft or you are evil attitude.” Boxing yourself, or a business, into something like that just means you have enslaved yourself to another paradigm.
CHOICE IS GOOD. Mono will continue to help bring choice to operating system selection.
” Mono will continue to help bring choice to operating system selection.”
Oh, how will it do that while it does not offer WORA?
“You know, the fact that .NET came from Microsoft doesn’t necessarily make it a bad idea. And with Mono it’ll even be open-source… the best of both worlds, so to speak. After all, admit that, setting aside the marketing aspects of .NET, it is a pretty neat idea, technically.”
What the fuck is the neat idea are you talking about? .NET is just another VM based architecture. Java is there for 8 years man.
“At least with .NET you will be able to compile once and run > your application on any platform once mono is completed”
Oh! So, we will wait for it something like 5 years while WORA is reality for something like 8 years with Java.
.NET my balls.
Nuff Said.
An attempt with the downside that as a developer, you no longer need to know one single language – you must be prepared to bump into an applications written in several languages at once..
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several languages, and not one of them ansi compliant. mono is a nice idea for any developer forced to write code in .net by their manager. but ask yourself how many of the open-source faithful are going to put any kind of an MS virtual machine on their computer.
not to mention… i thought MS pulled the plug on .net last week? or was i seeing things?
“What the fuck is the neat idea are you talking about? .NET is just another VM based architecture. Java is there for 8 years man.”
Exactly my point – which means that I would prefer that more work was put into Java GTK bindings instead of .NUT. Too bad noone got it due to my small arrogant comment at the end…
Oh, nice to see some sane people amoung the bunch of .NET-is-the-best-thing-MS-had-ever-created idiots. : )
Actually, there are GTK-Java binding implementations, which are progressing, such as:
http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
But, hell no! Miguel de Icaza knows better than every logical person. 1. Java is not open source. (As if .NET is.) 2. Java is not Turing complete. (Oh, so, lets stop using java, lets loose WORA, lets trash 8 years of knowledge base, ready to use code, code base, programmer base, and help MS, biggest unethical company ever existed on the face of this planet.).
Sometimes it is astonishing to recognize the height that human stupidity may reach while people are trying to satisfy their egos.
The article is really funny. It sounds like my grandma wrote it. But, of course we will see it here in all the cases, as part of the OSNews Mono propaganda, since it is related with .NET. Doesn’t matter if its important or not.
Nuff Said.
Just image what all this effort could have done if it was directed at the Kaffe project ( http://www.kaffe.org )