“Palladium is not secure Windows. Not exactly. Nor is it a standalone OS. Not exactly. Manferdelli presents it as a sort of parallel OS that is securely ringfenced from Windows, but which doesn’t run all the time, and which actually you wouldn’t want to run all the time. It works like this…” Read the rest of the article at TheRegister.
Like .Net all over again. All hype but no one really knows that the heck it really means.
As long as we all just stay away from TCPA/Palladium (which are just tools of big monopolistic corporations to control us) all will be OK.
What at issue here is not how it works, but what it is intended to do.
Ignore the words coming from MS – look at their previous actions and judge what their future actions will be from those.
Dead simple – don’t trust them or anyone they associate with.
Their idea of security is likely putting all of us in a cage.
This Palladium does sound like something that would benefit closed-source vendors by limiting what we can do with our own computers. This sort of thing is getting infuriating. We pay hundreds of dollars for the computer hardware, and we’re supposed to sit quietly while the content industries try to turn OUR hardware, which we PAID for, into THEIR property, on the grounds that every one of us is a potential thief.
Did anybody else, while reading this, think of that Fritz Hollings bill intended to allow content providers to break into your personal computer and delete files WITHOUT ANY LEGAL PENALTY?
for the tcpa : http://www.trustedpc.org
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~waa/aegis.ps
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~waa/TCPA/TCPA-goodnbad.html
palladium:
http://www.neowin.net/staff/users/Voodoo/Palladium_White_Paper_fina…
http://cryptome.org/palladium-sl.htm
http://www.activewin.com/articles/2002/pd.shtml
http://comment.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t479-s2118863,00.html
now for the deeper parts of the issue.
the “fritz” chip (in honour of fritz hollings, the tcpa/drm maniac in congress)
http://www.atmel.com/atmel/products/prod50a.htm
sadfully i just found out in an email that IBM has Fritz in their thinkpad series. http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfn…
concerned people:
http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0208.html#1
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/webservices/2002/07/09/udell.html
(I want to post other aactive OSS peoples opinions also but as some people have a hard time dealing with others concerns upon sovereign rights I have refrained from doing so)
As the open source zealot people want me to be I will tout that there are indeed some things I do like about the conceots brought forward.
The Playstation two has a trusted binary system also.
but as you posted some time ago, this is made by people, people will crack it why?
similar products have had their hardware circumevented before..
Cheers!
I would read these links later, but I think you are trying to tell me that Microsoft would introduce something that is already alien to consumers, DRM. What TCPA/Palladium does is make it even more stronger. On the DRM standpoint of view, I don’t see anything more.
I’ll go over the links tommorrow.
As for the rest of you guys, you really need to go out more often. Fritz is a influencial senator no doubt. But the last I checked, Microsoft and Intel (and IBM and other players) oppose his stupid so-call broadband promotional bill. I would abstain from making conspiracy theories to keep myself sane enough to see more clearly. I wouldn’t bash Palladium until it is release and we know what exactly it does and does not do. Unless of course I just need another reason to bash a few successful companies….
rajan – wrong… they wouldnt be contributing 2.500 usd to his campaign if they were opposed to him now would they?
all&all he has received over 101 thousand USD from the communications & electronic sector, major contributors amongst others are verisign and other software, network service , electronics companies.
PC succeed cos it was for freedom. Like car which you can drive where you wish. and crate something without big distance between you and product. “All from nothing”.
Same with Internet.
But now trend is to turn PC into appliance. All this “OS for idiots”, media-centers, powerful PC-based game consoles (yeah, X-box) etc + DRM + TCPA.
And turn Internet into “web-services” totally.
In whole it definitely means downfall of PC as concept.
And as product.
And death of of Internet in current form.
They killing it.
Don’t know, if it really happens and which consumer product can replace dead PC. Till now IAs, and MeddiaAppliances failed, let’s see.