GNOME 2.18.0 RC1 (2.17.92) has been released. “This is the last unstable release before 2.18.0. We’ve all added cool features, important bug fixes, great translations, or shiny documentation during the past six months. And it’ll be soon ready for public consumption. There’s still one week before the hard code freeze, so it’s not too late to fix this last bug you’re ashamed of.”
Since bugs are still being fixed, evidently there’s time for Linus’ patches to make it in? Anyone know if they will?
Linus patches were additional features. Because GNOME was under feature freeze and UI freeze at the time not all of them made it in. Particuarly the ones that added UI options to gnome control center.
According to the bug reports [1] these will make it in next cycle.
[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408898
Remember Torvalds’ sneering that his patches probably wouldnt go into mainline? Look what i found in metacity NEWS:
Thanks to Jaap A. Haitsma, Linus Torvalds and Kjartan Maraas
for improvements in this release.
PS: So yes, daven his patches are in.
Not all of them.
Linus submitted about 7 patches, where 3 where code cleanups and the rest introduced a new feature. He submitted them after the feature freeze, so these didn’t make it for 2.18. They will probably be in 2.20 (see the discussions).
You can follow them on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408898 (see the “depends on:” line).
Just the patch that refactored some code in metacity, not the patches who actually add the requested function and the related GUI. Gnome is in features-, UI- and string-freeze now and only tested and absolutely necessary bugfixes can be committed.
The rest will have to wait for the release and then it could be committed in the stable branch for a 2.18.1 release or in the unstable branch for the 2.20 release.
PS. I’m not involved in Gnome, so I’m guessing what the developers could do, I’m not sure that they’ll want to add the configurable mouse actions.
If Linux doesn’t care about Gnomes features then he can use KDE 4ever and be happy.
But it looks like the opposite…
no no we all have our ego’s linus just needed an excuse to bag out gnome and ostensibly the FSF (stallman really pissed him off)
its what any God-fearing man would do- use any old excuse to bag out gnome
it’s been my experience to learn that we should leave God, Jesus, Buddha, and any other religious figure out of the forum posts at osnews.com, there are certainly enough websites that cater to those needs.
has linus contributed to kde? just curious.
According to this page: http://www.kde.org/people/credits/ , no.
However, also according to that page, the list is far from complete.
> has linus contributed to kde
hwell, he’s not a regular contributor or anything, but he has done things like file bug reports. of course, being linus, he not only filled them out with accuracy and insight (oh, if every bug reporter was a linus =), he also helped come up with the debugging when necessary. i see 6 bugs in our bugzilla from him, in fact. i’m also pretty sure i’ve seen email from him on kde lists in the past.
he used to track kde from cvs/svn, though i don’t know if he still does that or not. wouldn’t be surprised =)
I quit using Gnome after having apps die all the time with a restart in which it would restart the app and then continue to try to restart it.
After the frustration of this chicanery I basically switched to KDE in which I have not had any of the hard lock ups or apps crashing all over the place.
Just my opinion no insults just my past…
Thanks for the update, but what makes you think your past is of the slightest interest or relevance in this particular thread?
over 2.16?
Only .02 cents worth.
Network Manager
DevTools
DevHelp
Seahorse
Glade-3
http://lwn.net/Articles/218957/
Yay for network-manager finally being included in mainline GNOME! I’ve just upgraded to feisty a week ago, but I didn’t realize it was part of official GNOME now. network-manager is so much easier than the wireless tool in WinXP SP2. Can anyone tell me what the wireless tools are like in OSX and Vista?
Can anyone tell me what the wireless tools are like in OSX and Vista?
In OSX they’re better. Sort of like the nm-applet, but with less cluttering, less options and easier to configure. Also, I find Network Manager a bit immature at times. Can’t wait for version 7.x, though.
Yay for network-manager finally being included in mainline GNOME! I’ve just upgraded to feisty a week ago, but I didn’t realize it was part of official GNOME now. network-manager is so much easier than the wireless tool in WinXP SP2. Can anyone tell me what the wireless tools are like in OSX and Vista?
The network applet in Vista is actually more similar to NetworkManager than the old network applets in XP. There aren’t seperate applets anymore for different network interfaces, there is only one. It is ok but I think NetworkManager is easier to use, but that is just the opinion as a full time Linux user.
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/ReleaseNotes
Screenshots please
Really miss those whats new in gnome pages full of screenshots explaining new and useful things in gnome versions that usually crop up around release time.
Hi,
I’ve just read, that MonoDevelop should be part of the next release. Is it true? Why that? Sorry, who is deciding this? Novell employees only? What about Eclipse as part of GNOME? Adapted to work with Java-GNOME.
Sorry, but this annoys me. Mono is not GNOME. Why always want to mix both together? I don’t know who, but anyone is trying to make GNOME more and more a Mono based desktop environment. Don’t misunderstand me: I fully respect the work of the mono people. It’s great work. And I like banshee and other mono based apps. But to make it more and more part of the desktop environment leads to more dependencies, both technical and political.
It’s sad to see Novell and all its employees become Mono supporters instead of GNOME fans. You simply have to read planet.gnome.org. Novell employees mostly talk about Mono and .NET. Maybe Miguel and all others have to do this, because Novell wants them to post all this. So it isn’t their fault. But I wish that Novell becomes a real GNOME supporter again.
Greetings
Mike
Monodevelop (the IDE for developing against Mono) will not ever be a core Gnome component. It is an IDE, not part of the desktop “platform”.
Mono and GTK# (and Tomboy IIRC) have been included in the Gnome release cycle since the last release, but it is up to the distributions to decide if they include it or not in their releases.
🙂 Who is always rating down my posting? Obviously anyone doesn’t accept criticism. The person could write an answer at least.
I now, that Mono has been included in the last release. MonoDevelop shall be part of the DevTools. Maybe it makes sense, maybe not. So let’s see, what the future brings.
Greetings
I would guess he complains so much about Gnome because he really wants to use Gnome instead of KDE for some reason, but it’s just not powerful enough. Otherwise, he’d just stick to KDE and not even bother Gnome.
> because he really wants to use Gnome
if you read the email thread, apparently he installed fedora on a machine in its default configuration for his daughter. after that quicky install he now has to deal with gnome when he does something on that computer with/for his daughter.
i’m also sure that like most of us geeks he also like to check things out from time to time and even offer, um, “feedback” =)
Then why he didn’t install KDE for his daughter, maybe he thought KDE would be to geeky for her, or maybe her daughter hates KDE, or maybe she got missed in all the mess konqueror is, be possibilitieas are endles.
Personally I prefer network manager to the way it is done in osx. They are quite similar, but after using them for a while on my dual booting macbook I have found I like network manager better.
Compared to osx I find network manager to be better at choosing the correct wireless network. osx seems to be terrible at remembering the correct network to use, especially when there are multiple networks with the same name in different places.
I also like the graphs and icons in the list of wireless networks. It makes it much easier to quickly browse through them.
I have not tried vista yet so I cannot speak about it, but both osx and network manager are much easier to use than the mess that was in xp sp2.
I tried Network Manager on Gentoo with a 2200bg wireless radio.
Unfortunately for me NetworkManager did not get along with my WRT54GL and WPA encryption (and I would never touch WEP). It simply wouldn’t connect and instead found the nearest unencrypted AP.
I’ll stick to my Gentoo wpa_supplicant scripts that get the job done, automatically, connecting to the nearest AP with my priorities set in the scripts. It even comes back right after hibernation/resume due to scripts.