Vasper has breathed life into his BeOS Max project. “Well, as you might have seen on BeOS News sites, I have posted info on the haikumax.org site on an upcoming version of BeOS Max. It will be Version 4 to be exact. So to answer the major question. Why? Although Zeta is being developed, Magnussoft is not doing its best to keep it alive. I find it quite annoying that I have to return the product I purchased from Yellowtab, to get an upgrade. This for me is a show stopper. I don’t want to wait in line at a post office, to send a package back to a company whose products I order from the Internet.“
I was bummed when vasper stopped support for MAX. I am glad it’s back 🙂
in other news:
beunited.org is no more…
Old news
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http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16874/ZETA-Secure-Due-to-Ignorance
yay! I cant wait to download it.
I went to order the latest version of Zeta and you have to pay for the box and shipping. This would be OKay if the install was a multi CD/DVD affair but its one cd…how hard would it be to purchase then get an electronic download?
great! I like BeOS very much
Great news indeed. I always thought BeOS Max was something really good. And since it must have been at least a year (is it 2 years?) since it’s last release, I’m confident more good things can be squeezed in there.
updated drivers, updated software and perhaps even some haiku components.
In the best of worlds, there would be 2 BeOS Max edition, one stable and one unstable testing components from Haiku which is in Beta stage or more mature, and a good way to send feedback, so these components can get mature. Future will tell
one stable and one unstable testing
Yuk. Makes me shudder and think of Linux.
I have an Athlon64 3000+ system and BeOS R5 PE (WIND distro) will not get past the middle icon on the purple BeOS R5 startup screen. It just freezes there. On my Athlon XP 2000+ system, if I turn off SSE instructions (in the BIOS), then BeOS boots fine. There is no option to turn off SSE on my MSI RX480 Neo2-F (Athlon64 3000+ system), so there is no way to run BeOS. And, thus, no way to get Haiku on the system. 🙁
I’d love it, if someone was able to find a way around this, so I can sell my Athlon XP 2000+ system and use my Athlon64 3000+ system exclusively.
Install PE to a windows partition, open up image.be, and with a hex editor change the second instance of AuthenticAMD to GenuineIntel. Save, and Beos PE will boot on SSE Athlons no problem. Other methods are to download a patched beos boot cd, install beos using that and then patch the kernel. Google is your friend. To answer your subject question, the answer is obviously no. Beos 5 is history!
I have the same system, and BeOS Max runs fine since it is patched. BeOS Max is based on BeOS 5 PE.
awsome news. Just when you think the beos community is slowly trickling down to nothing, someone else comes and picks things up again
That’s both a great and sad news.
Great because BeOS Max is the state of the art of the original BeOS, so a revival can only be good and if it integrates Haiku opensource parts it’s even better, but sad because it means (or confirms) that nor Magnusoft nor YellowTab is/was able to achieve what most of BeOS original fans/users want.
The reason Vasper continues now the BeOS Max story is more of a political one (Magnusoft policy of upgrading or supporting its user base is not really ‘friendly’ to say the least), but it is obvious, at least for me, that Zeta is driven with no global view (and will tend, with time, to be just another unix).
Most of Zeta is, for me, unusefull additions (their new ui, new preferences applet, new crashing applications, etc) to the original BeOS so badly integrated or thought that they throw away BeOS’ ‘sex appeal’ (and speed). Bugs present since the last Be’s Dano release are always present in Zeta (last I try was 1.1, but for what I’ve read nothing has really changed) and features strongly requested since ages are not even planned or are disclosed (java, netpositive upgrade, office suite – more like GoBe than like OpenOffice – , etc)…
So long live to BeOS Max and Haiku
Edited 2007-01-15 09:06
Sadely i have to agree with Vasper, i won’t purchase any more Zeta. It bother me to refund my boxes, i don’t mind about the Magnussoft buy-out, i want to purchase online and i don’t want to pay of fortune in post-shipping.
Well, if i have money to spend, i will surely donate to Haiku in the future.
First let me say that I love Zeta the OS. I have helped debug it and it has come a long way. However Magnussoft… I don’t like. Main reason is their policy to not trust YellowTab clients.
Also Bernd was and still is doing a good job with it. Magnussoft should perhaps consult him more on business decisions. The failure of YellowTab was not because of a poor product (it was far from perfect, but it wasn’t poor either), but because it was a single product company with little funds to begin with.
Now Magnussoft has the funds, but is only interested in the German market it seems. Well… good for them. I, on the other hand, am interested in bringing down Microsoft!!!! (ok… kidding here). I am interested in bringing Haiku/BeOS to the world.
Thanks Vasper! 🙂 …BeOS it’s the os.. tadada BeOS…
“First let me say that I love Zeta the OS. I have helped debug it and it has come a long way. However Magnussoft… I don’t like. Main reason is their policy to not trust YellowTab clients.
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Do you realize that Magnussoft, being a different company, doesn’t have access to the YellowTab clients database, right ? How are they supposed to “trust” YellowTab clients if they don’t know WHO they are in the first place ?
You mean the only way is to return the original CD? So why do they also ask to email them the receipt and the registration codes? Those two things should be enough to trust the clients.
Sorry, this logic doesn’t stand.
On the other hand, nobody HAS to agree with my reasons… only me 🙂
Edited 2007-01-16 12:08
I’m really looking forward to help test Max if Vasper is willing. Max 3.1 was superb for all us BeOS nuts left in the dirt when Be discontinued their great OS.
I still remember trying to get nvidia to release GeForce drivers for BeOS when I worked for Creative Labs. Was like pulling teeth!
Gonna shut up now. Man, do I feel old!
silly question: I have purchased BeOS 5 Pro – what are the differences between that and PE?
Pro can be installed on a seperate partition while PE cannot ( well… it can if you make a Max out of it!!!) and also included Real Player 4. Max is based on PE, but can be installed on a seperate partition.
Other than that… no difference.
I also bought BeOS 5 Pro, just before Be closed.
“Pro can be installed on a seperate partition while PE cannot ( well… it can if you make a Max out of it!!!) and also included Real Player 4. Max is based on PE, but can be installed on a seperate partition”
BeOS PE could be installed on a dedicated partition, but you had to install it within Windows first, then use the Installer application to copy it to it’s own partition.
I bought BeOS Pro also, because PE could not be installed on a Mac. I didn’t buy until long after Be Inc. went out of business and the disks were on closeout.
-Bob
Good luck. Maybe you can make it multi user and server capable. Now THERE would be a reason to use it again.