Sun Microsystems will overhaul two major components of its low-end server strategy later this month, introducing new low-end systems and detailing support for the Linux operating system. Despite all the recent talk about Sun entering the Linux distribution fray, Sun insiders told NewsForge that “Sun Linux” (or whatever it will be called) is really just Red Hat rebranded, with a few hardware-specific tweaks, and will neither be available for public download nor sold on CDs for a good while, if ever.
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Will Linux forever be tied to RPM?
…are you wrong again?
Looks like Sun is screwing the pooch again. They can’t even support their own product (Solaris x86).
They get a full OS without having to do all the development and packaging themselves.
Solaris has turned into a big-iron OS. Other than a few exceptions, all your Solaris software (DB2, Oracle, etc) is big bucks. Linux provides much better value pricing.
I would not be surprised to see Sun’s low-end (or all) of their workstations move to Linux as well.
Linux is the future of software. Solaris on the high-end will pick up capabilities similar to what IBM offers — virtualization of the Linux environment.
I like what I see. Sun has been and continues to be a well run company.
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“They get a full OS without having to do all the development and packaging themselves.”
They’ve already done the development. Packaging? Oh, you mean the nice downloads?
“I like what I see. Sun has been and continues to be a well run company.”
Sun’s constant flip-flops are driving off it’s supporters. Listen in on the Solaris x86 discussion groups….even their biggest advocates are beginning to have doubts. I know I sure am.
Doubts about what? Solaris x86 is at best a development environment for Sparc Solaris. Solaris on sparc is cheap, sunblades are cheap. A dedicated Solaris developer doesn’t need Solaris x86. Further Linux is a better x86 Unix.
I’m not sure what doesn’t make sense or where the flip flop is. Sun may release other versions of Solaris x86 but it doesn’t play a meaningful role in their strategy.
IMHO most Linux advocates like Sun as Linux’s big cousin. From Sun’s perspective having Linux become a dominant system and Sun hardware / OS a natural part of the scaling process makes a lot of sense. Solaris x86 has no chance of being a dominant system.
I like what I see. Sun has been and continues to be a well run company.
And Eazel is a cash cow.
Why are all of these vendors wanting Red Hat? Is Red Hat’s “support” really that valuable? Insane. There is no reason why Sun couldn’t setup their own distro that doesn’t suck.
BTW, Solaris is crap for workstation applications.
I think it is not good idea to based Sun Linux on Red Hat.
I think that packages must be based on tgz archives.
The distro must be based on clean linux kernel but not on Red Hat!
i’ve always thought solaris x86 was a big mistake. still do. they should have folded it earlier (like solaris on ppc).
IBM is hard at work with Linux, and SGI is introducing their technology into Linux as well. IBM/HP won’t have any troubles making Itanium 2 based servers, will Sun allow their own CPUs to be shifted out so easily? While this move makes excellent sense for companies such as HP and IBM it very well could prove to split Sun up even more. Their hardware is not good enough to compete on otherwise equal terms, and Java won’t be much of a revenue, especially since they try to battle .NET with their Java ONE.
I think that Sun should be split up, for their own good, so that each new company can concentrate on one goal.
If you run Solaris(x86) or are interested in what’s going on, please check:
http://www.save-solaris-x86.org/
And signing the open letter to Sun would be nice! :^)
hardware is not good enough to compete on otherwise equal terms
eh? Suns hardware is VERY good. Why do you think people are still running servers on Sparc station 5 and sparc station 20’s? I also dont see sun battling .NET withe ONE, I dont think there was much of a battle either. ONE is used on an enterprise level, on big iron. .NET isnt, its a desktop level, rich client level. (i’m thinking/talking all things here that are above + beyond just the ‘web services’ catchcall, and more of an architecture thing).
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“will neither be available for public download nor sold on CDs for a good while, if ever.”
Uh, Sun, the GPL says you must make the sources freely available.
Why not simply give Solaris more GNU/Linux features if that’s what customers want? Maybe even gently move Solaris more toward http://www.linuxbase.org/ ?
seriously…what’s wrong with RPMs? as far as a binary packaging formats are concerned…nothings really as good as FreeBSD ports though…mmmm
Solaris has turned into a big-iron OS. Other than a few exceptions, all your Solaris software (DB2, Oracle, etc) is big bucks. Linux provides much better value pricing.
Linux “provides” better value pricing? On what, the open source applications that make up 95% of its application base that you can just as easily compile under Solaris? Or how about the 2 commercial applications which have no equally priced commercial Solaris counterpart? (2 is arbitrary, of course)
BTW, Solaris is crap for workstation applications.
Hi Troll! How’s that trolling thing going? Good? Glad to hear it. Your feistily argued opinions brighten my each and every morning.
That has nothing to do with the GPL. Sun doesn’t have to make CD’s available for purchase or download.
I’m not saying they do…but do have to make the source available for download or at minimal cost on CD.
No, no they dont, go read that GPL license again, they dont need to provide anything back until they release binaries.
No, no they dont, go read that GPL license again, they dont need to provide anything back until they release binaries.
also, dont they only have to make it available to the customers of the product? (and not nescecarily to everyone as a whole, but then once one person gets it…)
i’m not a gpl person, and dont know all the lawyer stuff that goes with it.