“The Ubuntu team is proud to present the Flight 7 release of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Long Term Support). With Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Flight 7 comes many bug fixes, general fixes all around, new version of some key applications and much more. Note: This is still a development release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released in June of 2006.” Kubuntu and Xubuntu versions have been released as well.
I love Ubuntu! Best Distro out there ๐ Cant wait for official release.
The one thing I don’t understand about this great distro is the way they make gnome look. Overall the brownisch artwork isn’t candy for our eyes at all… Especially for newbies who don’t know anything about linux the default theme could scare them away from ubuntu.
Candy lies in the eye of the beholder.
The new ubuntu theme is less brown than the older one and more orange-ish.
I definitely like the Dapper theme, while i can’t say the same for the Breezy/Warty ones.
Guessing the taste of millions of people out there, is an hard job for theme designer anyway ๐
Personally I like the icons all though I dislike the orange colour and the plasticness of it all.
I like the calm grey colours but I would love to see more unified toolbars and window borders….more like you can see it in Mac OS X, where you can make aqua-fied metal windows look like this:
http://www.liederbrau.de/finder.png
I have nevre gotten the point about borders anyhow… To me it seems like it is more or less a question of something being badly designed rather than borders being a necessity…
Anyways, I really like Ubuntu Dapper Drake until now and I am looking forward to having everything working… I still cannot use the Network Manager applet, it seems like it does not exist on my system… Plus Nvidia Legacy seems not to work at all with my system… I hope to see this change in the final release!
Anyways, I really like Ubuntu Dapper Drake until now and I am looking forward to having everything working… I still cannot use the Network Manager applet, it seems like it does not exist on my system..
Although the package is in the main repository, you have to install it manually. The package is “network-manager-gnome”.
I believe that’s because of its lack of maturity, but it does still work quite well. It can even do PEAP authentification with the wifi network at my university.
every Network Manager related package *IS* installed on the system… It just does not work…
I agree that it is working pretty well, however, I still miss some of the touted features to *actually work* on my AthlonXP-based PC…
Network Manager won’t work if you’ve manually configured your network interfaces (or used another config tool which did it for you). To get Network Manager running:
sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
Remove everything except the loopback interface:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
Then restart Network Manager
this is the best looking gnome i’ve seen
Easy Ubuntu is not ready for Dapper yet. Until that happens, I won’t have much use for it.
I need all wistles and bells – also the ones not included for political reasons. I’ll run 5.10 a while more.
I have tried all previous versons and am downloading F7 now – I’ve gotta test it, but I think I’ll stick to 5.10, until EasyUbuntu works – to much hazzle to do it manually, really.
Nalle Berg
./nalle.
Edited for typo.
Edited 2006-05-08 08:55
You mean legal reasons, not political…
They are political reasons, since the reasons apply to just a minority of countries like the US. In most of the world it isn’t illegal to add dvd-support, or mp3 support out of the box, for free with libdvdcss and win32codecs.
Easy Ubuntu is not ready for Dapper yet.
Then why does it work perfectly fine on my Dapper install?
“Then why does it work perfectly fine on my Dapper install? ”
Easy ubuntu doesn’t work on my 64 kubuntu either.
It does? I must admit thea I haven’t tested it since Dapper F6, so i don’t know about the releases after that, but it didn’t work then, even though it ran fine.
But after running it I did not get any extra support for things…
Nalle Berg
./nalle.
The Ubuntu team is proud to present the Flight 7 release
and
Note: This is still a development release. Do not install it on production machines.
It is news because?
The final stable version will be released in June of 2006.
Period.
My current distro is Ubuntu breezy, and it will be until the likes of fedora, suse and ubuntu get their acts together regarding dual head usage.
in the apple world, all i do to enable my 2nd monitor is plug it in. done. thats it.
on fedora 5, suse 10.1 beta, dapper NONE of them work. i’ve edited my xorg.config to suit my hardware, but none of them know how to do it. it’s either their xorg packages are broken, or the nvidia driver they’re shipping.
suse 10.1 *looks* stunning, but extremely buggy (unbelievably so, considering the final is due any day now), fedora 5 is a complete mess (yum is garbage, their default themes/icons are ugly, their system tools are TERRIBLE – no redraw, crashes etc), and ubuntu is in a similar state to suse (but they have more time to do the fixes).
desktop linux is in a pretty sad state at the moment.
Well I can’t tell anything about SuSE or Fedora, but I’m running three productive machines on Dapper for a few weeks or even months now, and didn’t have any problems so far. There have been some bugs here or there, but nothing serious.
But I agree with you about dual monitor support. This really sucks in Linux. Well it does work for me (TV as second monitor), but it still sucks. You can’t just plug it in or off, there’s NO WAY to tell Gnome to open all windows only on the first monitor, now some windows are opened on the TV, which is kind of bad when the TV is turned off. Also, there’s no easy way to configure cloning, resolutions, the alignment of the monitors etc, and there’s no easy way to _work_ on the first monitor, open Totem on it and have _only_ the video output on the TV in fullscreen, why the video controls are still on the first monitor.
Tom
While I had no trouble making my Xorg config work for dual monitors, I agree with your overall point – the lack of GUI tool support for dual monitors is rediculous.
I really don’t get it – its not like its something linux developers don’t know much about. Developers as a group are surely the biggest users of multiple monitors out there.
Agreed – it’s not that simple. But I have managed to get it working quite well by adding 3 lines to my xorg.conf file. If you have an ati card you can add:
Option “MonitorLayout” “LVDS,CRT”
Option “CRT2Position” “Rightof”
Option “MetaModes” “1024×768-1024×768”
in the device section that has the ati driver (assuming you have an ati device).
For some laptops – you have to force it to find the second monitor — in that case you add:
Option “CRT2Hsync” “30.0-60.0” ##assuming that’s within your monitor’s Hsync range
Restart X and it should work.
Other devices may or may not be more complicated. ATI cards (specifically on laptops in my experience) tend to be very simple now.
This is a great example of the current issue. It might be simple, but we should not have to do that. Like it wasn’t enough, you have to restart X.org every time you add or remove a display… It was justifiable in 1990, but not in 2006.
The alternatives got decent multi-monitor support a while ago. There is no reason why X.org couldn’t have some. If the problem is X itself, then it could be more productive to rewrite the complete system rather than bothering to fix it again via loads of extensions. I’m sure X could make up an entire hater book[1] by itself…
[1]: http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/disaster.html
on fedora 5, suse 10.1 beta, dapper NONE of them work. i’ve edited my xorg.config to suit my hardware, but none of them know how to do it. it’s either their xorg packages are broken, or the nvidia driver they’re shipping.
It’s the same with the ati (radeon) driver all it opens is a 640×480 window… when i change it to vesa it completely hangs…
Can’t they just dump the bloody xwindows/server crap and get something decent…
I spend less time to get MacOSX work on this machine…
and that’s with hardware acceleration (after hexediting the driver)
Hey, anybody have problems too with mysterious pausing with Firefox while a page is almost done loading? And… what I have is an upgrade from Breezy, but I don’t feel the snappiness of Gnome 2.14 like they all are saying. Well, I hope it is different with a fresh clean install as I plan to with the Release version.
Hey, anybody have problems too with mysterious pausing with Firefox while a page is almost done loading? And… what I have is an upgrade from Breezy, but I don’t feel the snappiness of Gnome 2.14 like they all are saying. Well, I hope it is different with a fresh clean install as I plan to with the Release version.
I am not running Dapper but I read about it as a known bug on the Ubuntu Dapper forums. Some workarounds were posted and they seemed to work for some but not all people. Apparently if you install the Firefox 1.5 download from mozilla.org and install it in your home direcory it runs very responsively with no problems
Is this ubuntu release a news? and if so what is innovative about it?
Anyway they will release Flight xxx.1 with bugfixes? Why not wait for xxx.1?
As a common user, I read most of the distro news sites, but never seen such a gyrating attitude like OSN towards a single distro..
My system is PCLinuxOS…Just try it and see how fast you will start disliking *buntu…It is the best distro for average Joe and Jane and a very precisely new user wants. I am not a expert developer but can anyone post objective comparison betn PClinuxOS to Ubuntu…
Of course expect OSN editors to mod it down..
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P.S> can anyone explain why this comment gets 5 score on this site
RE: Theming & artwork
By Mystilleef on in reply to “Theming & artwork”
Candy lies in the eye of the beholder.
Reply Score: 5
That comment is +5 because it is true, and a lot of people agree
Is this ubuntu release a news? and if so what is innovative about it?
Anyway they will release Flight xxx.1 with bugfixes? Why not wait for xxx.1?
As a common user, I read most of the distro news sites, but never seen such a gyrating attitude like OSN towards a single distro..
Well, it is quite popular, perhaps more people submit stories about it than other distributions…the editors can’t post stories that haven’t been written.
P.S> can anyone explain why this comment gets 5 score on this site
RE: Theming & artwork
By Mystilleef on in reply to “Theming & artwork”
Candy lies in the eye of the beholder.
Reply Score: 5
Because four people moderated it up.
Edited 2006-05-08 12:53
P.S can anyone explain why this comment gets 5 score on this site
RE: Theming & artwork
By Mystilleef on in reply to “Theming & artwork”
Candy lies in the eye of the beholder.
Reply Score: 5
Because it accurately and concisely conveys the feelings of many people with regard to arguments based upon the subjective measure of which distro/GNOME/KDE *looks nicer*
When will people see that arguments like “Ubuntu is brown”, “KDE looks like a kids OS”, “eeeeewww FC5 is a yucky bubbly blue” etc ARE POINTLESS. People might as well spend their time arguing over whether the color red or green is better.
So I guess they should stop announcing all the Suse beta/rc releases as well, or any other distro that releases many test versions? If PCLOS did many betas, I would expect to see the announcements here.
Edited 2006-05-08 14:34
i’ve tried pclinuxos and i still prefer ubuntu. the latter works directly without any configuring on all of my computers
My system is PCLinuxOS…Just try it and see how fast you will start disliking *buntu…It is the best distro for average Joe and Jane and a very precisely new user wants.
Please do not view this as an attack on any other distro. In my humble opinion Ubuntu is NOT the best distro for new user. The kind of users that are drawn to Ubuntu are those in between new user and intermediate users. It has this balance mix of hand-holding (GUI) and CLI.
Plus.. brown (now orange) ROCKS
P.S> can anyone explain why this comment gets 5 score on this site
May be this table can help you:
OS | Praise | Bash
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Windows | -2 | +3
Mac OS | -1 | +2
Linux general | +2 | -2
Ubuntu | +3 | -3
BeOS | +1 | -1
The reason why I switched from PeeCeeLeenookSauce to OOBOONTOO was basically because my lips were getting tired from trying to pronounce the former and it was more fun marching about saying the latter.
BAD HUMOR OFF
Actually, I like PCLOS fine, but I have just had more “success” with Ubuntu. Certainly PCLOS has its strong points, but there were also a slew of flaws that just soured me to the distro. After several years of “using” Linux, day-to-day (for simple home productivity stuff), without getting any better at “doing” Linux (I.E. coding, compiling, etc.), Ubuntu seems to be the distro that has marched the furthest towards me without being overly condescending . And I feel compelled to add, it really does depend on application and situation. So, enjoy your PCLinuxOS, as it seems you certainly do, but understand that a great many people appear to think that Ubuntu’s doing something right.
Edited 2006-05-09 00:25
Well I have Dapper on my lappy and so far it has proved excellent. However, the big news for me this week is the release of SuSE 10.1 on Thursday. I’ve installed an RC and updated it to the full Factory branch over the weekend. It is really nice and much faster than is usual for SuSE. Been trying out their new novell-zen installer and updater as well which throws up a window similar to the updater on Dapper.
I thought that Ubuntu was already in the beta stage, and suddenly an alpha release is made?
>I thought that Ubuntu was already in the beta stage, and suddenly an alpha release is made?
This isn’t an alpha release but a snapshot of what has happened since the beta.
But in the linked mailing list post it says “Flight 7, the latest alpha of Dapper Drake, is now available”.
I suspect that was just a cut and paste leftover from previous flight releases.
rehdon
I thought that Ubuntu was already in the beta stage, and suddenly an alpha release is made?
Ubuntu Dapper is in development stage. While in development, there are few snapshots. These snapshots are called:
– Flight 1 (not so sure about this)
– Flight 2 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight2)
– Flight 3 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight3)
– Flight 4 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight4)
– Flight 5 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5)
– Flight 6 (http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight6)
– Flight 7 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight7)
For further information you can also refer to Dapper Release Schedule – https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
U: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=630&slide=4…
K: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=631&slide=4…
X: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=632&slide=4…
kubuntu is package with guidance which has a GUI for dual monitors if u you look at the first and third screenshot you can take a look at some of the stuff available
http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/#screenshots
I haven’t taken a look at the OSdir screenshots so I don;t know if they show that kubuntu uses guidance.
It’s great to see that Xubuntu has already caught up with Kubuntu on the DistroWatch page hit counter (1 month span). Of course, it might just be that KDE fans are more interested in Mepis than Kubuntu — Mepis is now based on Kubuntu but it includes more goodies by default. OK, now we can just sit back and wait for Xubuntu to become more popular than Ubuntu. ๐
BTW, Xfce 4.4 Beta1 packages have also recently arrived in Debian Sid.
I have Flight6 installed. If I do apt-get update && apt-get -y dist-upgrade, will it upgrade my Kubuntu version to Flight7?