Dell’s Chief Executive Kevin Rollins said on Thursday that he is open to selling computers that run on AMD chips. Dell, the world’s biggest manufacturer of personal computers, currently only uses Intel chips, and is Intel’s biggest customer. Rollins said that Dell was always open to change: “We want the very best technology for our customers.”
But will AMD be able to satisfy the high demand? In other words, there may be a shortage of supplies.
But will AMD be able to satisfy the high demand?
If they werent able to fill demand I think HP, IBM, Sun, Gateway and the rest would be up in arms saying “give us CPUs dammit!”, no?
Remember, you can buy Dell boxes without Windows now, too, even if its only an option on a few products.
If some market analyst at Dell told them that they could make bigger margins or open new markets with AMD, Dell would certainly do it. As Intel’s biggest customer, Dell can stand up to Intel if they throw a fit about it.
Dell is still remembering who their target audience is – people that “just want computers”.
Yeah RIGHT !!! >:(
Dell will sell with other options for full price!
They sell models with Free-DOS for list price.
Then they sell the same models with XP and all the fluff software for a significant discount.
That would be OK (just buy the XP version, save $$, and reformat and install OS of choice) except their research dept (brainless) determines and shows that their is no demand for Dell with other OSes… Duh… Why pay more $$ for the exact same hardware. just because it does not have Windows?
Then the articles come out that PC makers cannot sell Linux on PC’s, people do not buy them. Duh…
Please do not take my word for it, you do not even know me.
Go to Dells site and see for your self. My point here is Dell will do the same thing with AMD.
Besides I had to laugh that Dell wants the best for its customers. coming from a Dell only shop I had to support over 100 Dells and they are no better than E-Machines. They work, but at a minimum.
People are better with clones.
Just my 2 cents and personal experience.
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People are better with clones.
Sorry to break it to you, but it’s not 1992 anymore. You’re going to have to update your terminology.
Dell is still remembering who their target audience is – people that “just want computers”.
Yes, and they want them powerfull yet cheap, there is where AMD shines.
Bah. I’ll believe it when I see it, Dell has pulled out the AMD card far too many times in the past without following through. If Dell does adopt AMD, it will have to bring enough return to outweigh the hit they’ll take on their generous Intel rebates and marketing funds.
Call me cynical, but I’m willing to bet this is just a friendly reminder to Intel to not lose sight of their priorities in all the hoopla surrounding Apple. I would suspect Intel ultimately has more to lose from Dell breaking exclusivity, hence the hefty subsidies.
If Dell suspects that Apple is receiving any preferential treatment over and above what Dell gets, I wouldn’t be surprised to see AMD appear in their machines. I guess it would depend upon the kind of deal they can squeeze out of AMD in return. I haven’t been following the processor wars that closely, but I’ve seen some concern about ADM’s capacity and ability to fulfill widespread demand. While snagging Dell would be a coup for AMD, what would they have to sacrifice in return?
Bah. I’ll believe it when I see it,
Exactly, probably bull as the last 1876 times. It can only lead to 3 conclusions
1. They are just extorting Intel for bigger percentage
2. They are extorting Intel for bigger percentage to be competitive to Apple
3. They are extorting Intel for bigger percentage because of some internal deal with MS, where MS gains, Apple looses and Dell gets cheaper
In any way it is 100% connected to proffit and 66% to Apple
In short:
“Dell is just extorting Intel for *.*”
I’ll believe Dell when I see pigs grow wings and fly, etc.
If they do introduce an AMD line, it will be for servers.
Dell has been made the bitch of HP, Sun, and other major server manufacturers because they’re not offering Opteron solutions — which are very fast, scalable, and have low power consumption. Customers demand it. Dell doesn’t offer it. Dell offers crappy Xeons. ‘Nuff said.
That is exactly the reason it won’t be “if”, but “when”. They have no choice but to offer AMD servers, and with enough of these sold they’ll offer AMD on workstations next.
If they do introduce an AMD line, it will be for servers.
Actualy, I think it will be more than just servers at least related to these prices of AMD notebooks from HP
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?serie…
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?serie…
HP 5000 15″ $699 Sempron
HP 8000 17″ $999 Turion
I don’t know should I laugh at these prices or become worried what has happened with this world
I’ve had trouble with Dell and their low end stuff is just crap. The numbers look great in the sunday sales paper insert(when they do advertise that way), but it’s pure junk.
I have a noisy one(dell)sittin in the corner, that needs fixing again.
I have been using hp now and they are much better in quailty and service.
I will never buy a Dell again!
I get the feeling this is another manipulation by Dell to get _something_ from Intel.
Personally I think that AMD chips are not well known outside of the circle of gamers, programmers, and computer enthusiasts. And these types of people would likely buy systems from a local shop or build them by hand, so Dell’s possible move to AMD would not matter.
However, ask any “common Joe” user you know about AMD. Then ask about Intel. Chances are good they will at least know the old Intel “jingle” and logo.
So, unless AMD gets it’s name out to more people, I don’t see the benefit of Dell moving to AMD.
The current news could be part of the negotiations with Intel.
But… if Dell switches to AMD it will be big. If they don’t get their rebate for being 100% Intel, it makes much more sense to negotiate a rebate with AMD. This is how Dell does business. Their monitors are 100% Philips, I don’t remeber who their printer manufacturer, but there is one, not multiple. Dell’s contracts with suppliers give them a 100% market share within Dell, but they need to offer their best stuff at bargain prices.
If Dell switches to AMD, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 100%. But I still think Dell is just negotiating.
Dell’s Printers are Lexmark. Dell doesn’t deal with quality just quantity.
I bet this has more to do with recent complaints by business purchasers that they can’t buy a Core Dou Laptop from Dell, but can buy from Apple. Of course this is completely ignoring the fact that Both Dell and Apple are estimating ship dates in Feb. and that Apple has just marketed it more.
“I bet this has more to do with recent complaints by business purchasers that they can’t buy a Core Dou Laptop from Dell, but can buy from Apple. Of course this is completely ignoring the fact that Both Dell and Apple are estimating ship dates in Feb. and that Apple has just marketed it more.”
Well, and that the simple reason that the unique Core Duo notebook from Dell is a 17″ that weights a lot, a machine that no one could consider a truly notebook, it even weights more than the PowerBook 17″…
The desktop replacement market isn’t big in bussinnes..
But there is no company today that could introduce a full range of notebooks of various sizes using Yonah, because simply there aren’t enough chips produced..
For now, Apple is the first and unique company that is shipping Yonah based machines (iMac)…
Ya know, Lexmark used to be IBM’s printer division, so I don’t know what you’re trying to get at.
This is old news. Dell’s been saying it for quarters and quarters. The reason is because reporters and analysts corner the CEO’s with contrived and useless questions. Example, if you ask Apple if they’d *ever* support Linux, Job’s answer would and should be, “we’ll keep our options open.” It means nothing.
Translation:
“From: Dell
To: Intel
Subject: Re: The side your bread is buttered on”
Ok, the subject was a little tongue-in-cheek, but doesn’t anyone remember the recent interview with a top Dell exec that covered this?
You know, the one where he said that they wouldn’t use AMD for the following reasons:
1. It would confuse our salesmen
2. Sometime in 2006 Intel will get really close to feature parity with AMD, we think
3. Mfg and support overhead from multiple lines
So according to Dell, they already know AMD is better. If you take both statements seriously they will definitely ship AMD!
My biggy is this, my hp notebook is alomst 10 pds with an AMD Athlon 64. Is AMD going to be able to satisfy Dell with a light notebook?
After lusting after a Powerbook for years and then seeing the seeing the new MacBook and it’s power/size/wieght. I’m sold on one!
“We want the very best technology for our customers”
…”and besides, that other child in the Intel Customers’ playground said we were dull and boring”