YDL 2.3 surpasses YDL 2.2 with an array of timely updates, improvements: kernel 2.4.19, the ‘Liquid’ theme, CUPS print system, apt-get, OpenOffice 1.0, Mozilla 0.9.9, Galeon 1.2, Evolution 1.0.5, AbiWord 1.0.2, netatalk 1.5.3.1, and support for the Radeon 7500 (excluding ‘Mobility’) video card among its 1000 packages spread across 3 CDs.
YellowDog Linux 2.3 for PPC Released
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…and I who thought kernel 2.4.19 wasn’t released yet.
No, it is not out yet… Gentoo uses it too for months now, and it is pretty stable though.
Well, it seems like Windows-clones, Yellow Dog Linux is trying to somewhat clone Mac OS X. These have negative effects;
– It isn’t as nice as Mac OS X, causing a lot of people to dismiss it who wouldn’t if it didn’t put Liquid as the default
– Would make new users feel that the OS is similar to OS X and tend to judge it by that.
Other than that, cheers to a new version of a distro on a platform I might never use!
yep, let’s get Apple to sue and stop all those people working on Mac-like themes for the benefit of the linux community.
“Would make new users feel that the OS is similar to OS X and tend to judge it by that. ”
Is that a negative effect for Linux, or for OS X? ;-D.
Damn. I just installed 2.2. Guess I should have checked their release schedule.
Since when do linux companies ever follow their schedule?
<someone wispering in my ear> Oh never mind, maybe that’s just debian.
Is that a negative effect for Linux, or for OS X? ;-D.
Linux. It is common knowlegde among any current Mac (old or new) owner that Aqua is from Apple, and it looks much better than the rip off called Liquid. Liquid is really cool technically, but I really don’t like the way Mosfet imitate Aqua. Liquid is IMHO, as of 0.9.5 which I painstaking install (ask any Mandrake user the hardships we go through), it looks much more worse than Aqua which I don’t like in the first place (mostly because the stripe backgrounds and the fact that even with the shadows, the text on buttons are still quite hard to read).
Since when do linux companies ever follow their schedule?
<someone wispering in my ear> Oh never mind, maybe that’s just debian.
LOL, Debian isn’t a company. So, you were right about Linux companies…. (most of them don’t have schedules and roadmaps, BTW)
sarcasm abound . . .
They should. But when your selling/distibuting such an amalgam its tough; you just don’t have any way of knowing when all the volunteer stallmanites are going to be finished with the next version of >>insert GPL projet here<<.
Thats why I’ve always though that numbering Linux distros is freaking stupid.
Instead of Mandrake 7.x; How about Mandrake Base Install 2002. And then thru out the year(s) have Mandrake Update July 2002, as needed. Come out with a new Base Install roughly once a ~year.
Then sell subscriptions. Each Base Installs documention would come in a three ring binder; and the updates would come with replacement pages. Fuck version numbering; with rate of x.0 updates on some very important software we’ll be up to SuSE 18.5 in no time. The version number, if any should coinside (sp) with the kernels.
And then Linux distributors wouldn’t have to play “rush out the distro because XXXXXX made a new one!”, OMG! A new KDE version – – quick guys throw together a new x.0 distro before RH does (says SuSE, Mandrake etc).
It would be a great way to keep end users up to date on patches. A lot of people will rush out like madmen to get their hot hands on an update; but will seldom actively seek security patches.
OK I’m done ranting . . .
There is some truth to tom6789’s ranting. Without providing anything new except new packages, most distributions (except a few like Gentoo)have nothing else new…
I know I said I was done, but . . . One more thing, and thats it . . .
If I were CEO of Linux Company Inc. and advertised the sh@t out of MyLinux new version 6.0 to be released on DEC 1st 2002, I can’t exactly call up the KDE project and say “Hey!!! A$$h@les, what the fsck are you waiting on???? I’ve got a new distro coming out in two weeks and you’d BETTER have KDE 4.0 out the door!”. That might work with big business software, but not when your talking stallmanites. Linux distros shouldn’t be ran like a traditional business: becuase they are not.
Of course there is a lot of sense in it but unfortunatly those companies do what makes the most money not what makes the most sense.
what tom6789 said is right: remember Mandrake announced its 8.1 release almost immediately after Red Hat 7.2 was released (or is it LM 8.0 and RHL 7.1)?
Having a new minor version say every 6 months should be optimal for all members of the food chain from users, VARs to Red Hat Inc itself. For example, the FreeBSD and OpenBSD (I am not too sure about NetBSD) groups seem to have calendered their new builds and adhere rather tightly to these deadlines. Red Hat, Mandrake and others seem to have a vague 6 to 9-month intervals .. nothing concrete. Having regular intervals will certainly reduced a lot of uncertainty but brings about additional pressure to meet the expectation to deliver. Of course, there should be no stopping the distros shops to release an update whenever a major update of one of their major components (such as GNOME or KDE for example) becomes available.
However, it will be ideal to have updates that do not require a new installation but rather an upgrade that can rather cleanly updates the various software packages without running into dependency problems (ah yes, it is a very difficult thing to do). Otherwise, I guess it’s probably time to turn to a source-based distro (Gentoo with their Portage has the potential to be the next-generation killer distro).
I don’t agree with a new version just to add something that had a major new release, like KDE or GNOME. They should instead put it as an update. Except for a totally new version with new stuff except just new versions of software they are based on should deserve a major release. Of course, this is from the utopian perspective, but from the marketing perspective, however, I’m not so sure.
Terra Soft Solutions doesn’t mention (on their web site http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com) ftp sites where Yellow Dog is available for download. Please advise.
Well, I may push too much with GNOME 2.0, but “Red Hat 7.2” is certainly old.
ISO’s will be available a few weeks after initial release on FTP servers. They like to sell copies before they give it away for free. ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com