“I couldn’t help but make a joke with the title, because it’s seemingly right on the money. You see, Google is getting ready to take the wraps off of a new service called Google Base. If it can be posted online, it would appear that they would, in fact, prefer it belong to them. At least, they’ll store it for you and make it searchable.”
I think this will help Google further profile their consumers (alongside their talk, email, froogle, homepage and search-history services) so they can really tailor their search to each individual user. Why? Because their advertising relies on their search, and if they can advertise things that people are likely to buy (based on their user-profile) then this will cement their position as the Internet’s premiere advertiser.
This service is particularly interesting, as what you sell is quite likely to reflect what you buy.
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with this, I’d prefer to see adverts for things I’m interested in. People always get scared about Google invading their privacy, but things like email were always insecure: MS can look at your Hotmail account just as easily as Google can look at your GMail account.
The only thing I will say is that as an Irish citizen using the services of Google, a US company, I’m basically waiving certain data-protection rights, as the US support for these is generally behind Europe’s. That’s why, if I ever really needed to send email privately, I’d use PGP.
It’ll be interesting to see what EBay et al. make of this.
“The only thing I will say is that as an Irish citizen using the services of Google, a US company, I’m basically waiving certain data-protection rights, as the US support for these is generally behind Europe’s. That’s why, if I ever really needed to send email privately, I’d use PGP.”
http://www.export.gov/safeharbor/
You should be using PGP anyway. US or no US.
I tend to agree. Sending anything unencrypted across the net is asking for someone else to see it. You don’t have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you send an email. In your own home or lan, sure, you expect privacy.
I find adverts on google to be among the least offensive/annoying and most useful adverts. I’m thrilled that a company with such useful, free, and asthetically pleasing features found a very positive revenue stream. Keep up the good work.
I think google base is a further boost for their search engine.
It’s necessary the user takes his privicay protection in his own hands and selects what to put in the base.
Joke with the title???
I thing something got lost in the translation.
Don’t tell me you never heard of the sentence: “all your base are belong to us”?? Are you new to this internet thing?
you are either A, not a gamer, or B, havent been on the net long enough to run into it.
“All your base are belong to us” is a REALLY old joke.. its a line from a badly translated video game.
http://www.planettribes.com/allyourbase/
It seems to me that you didn’t understand his joke “something got lost in the translation”…
Somebody musta set you up the bomb…
Say you use the service.
What happens if one day they decide to drop this service? What happens if one day they decide that your content is not worth it and they erase it?
I hope you’ll have no problem with that!
What happens if MS licenses Office at $1 million? What are you going to do with all your latest .doc files? It’s all about costs vs benefits – like in anything. If you think the benefits are larger than the possible costs, this service is suit able for you. Obviously it doesn’t cut it for you, but hey your not really their target audience. I doubt a lot of poeple who go to OS news are the target audience for large internet portals (I mean we whitelist JS/Flash/Cookies, block ads and do lots of other wierd stuff).
Everyone who is to lazy to learn HTML or to cheap to pay for a website can get their content/products indexed on Google. I’ll reserve judgement until it comes out of beta in 2010.
Everyone who is to lazy to learn HTML or to cheap to pay for a website can get their content/products indexed on Google.
I think this goes beyond mere htmling and right into databasing.
Right now I’m working on an in-house FAQ webpage. I would love to make it searchable. The people I’m making it for agree that my index/topic/keyword structure is very good, but they would love for it to be searchable.
I’d kick it upstairs to the web development services team but it doesn’t meet their criteria for a database project (too small and in-house use only [large and public is the priority]).
I could put it into Access and put it on a shared network drive but Access isn’t really designed for a project of this kind, nor can it handle multiple simultaneous requests.
I’m not paid the kind of $$$ that makes it worth my while to teach myself mySQL, nor would my work pay for the training. Plus, time spent at classes would take me away from the core duties of my job.
Hot *DAMN* I would love to be able to use Google Base (or something very like it) for this project. Instant, searchable database for answers to questions like “Who do I call on the weekend to report a plumbing problem?” and I don’t have to know SQL or deal with another department to get it done.
I agree fully. I’ve seen a few other articles which speculate that this offering is an attempt to displace eBay or CraigsList. I see it as a much simpler offering with huge potential. I’m really curious to see what they will offer in regards to retrival and formatting.
You could download a simple spider like the following:
http://www.isearchthenet.com/isearch/
And install it on the website. It will spider your site and create a searchable index for you – and also provide the interface for searching. Although it runs on PHP and Mysql, it is very easy to install and requires almost no programming experience. There are tons of other products that will create indexes from a site and let you search, so maybe you could find one that fits your environment better. You could even get a google mini or other search appliance if you wanted to spend the cash…
Anyway, just some other ideas to help you out. I think Google Base is a neat technology though. I just finished implementing google sitemaps for a site, so I’ll have to take a look into this. 🙂
You could download a simple spider like the following:
http://www.isearchthenet.com/isearch/
And install it on the website. It will spider your site and create a searchable index for you – and also provide the interface for searching.
Oh, if I were Queen of the Server, I’d do something like that in a heartbeat. The problem with that is Systems would kill me if I installed any software their server.
And god forbid, if it frelled something up, they’d be lining up behind Systems to desicrate my corpse.
And then I’d get fired.
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OTOH, I’m taking a closer look at Google Base as means of indexing/d-basing my comic art collection.
“Right now I’m working on an in-house FAQ webpage. I would love to make it searchable. The people I’m making it for agree that my index/topic/keyword structure is very good, but they would love for it to be searchable. ”
Just use moinmoin or some other wiki system.
“Hot *DAMN* I would love to be able to use Google Base (or something very like it) for this project.”
Putting internal company documentation at a service like Google Base isn’t the smartest thing to do. Could even get you fired.
Well…the problem with THAT is she isn’t queen of the server. Installing a wiki (lovely as they are) comes with its own set of problems, and may be overkill for documentation that is being overseen and maintained by a small number of people.
She’ll just have to find a solution (there are some nifty free Java based automagic indexing and search solutions too) and convince Systems that it is for the GOOD. I strongly suggest she rally all the people who would “love” for it to be searchable behind her.
Do NOT use GoogleBase, unless your company luvs them some Google. Your management will throw gigantic hissyfits if their data is being maintained by another company.
–JM
Joke with the title???
I thing something got lost in the translation.
Apparently, you have a life, and aren’t in on the Geek phrase craze of 2 or 3 years ago. I, alas, had an officemate at the time who thought it was the funniest thing.
Congratulations.
the cia runs google.
With the recent misdealings in the CIA intelligence, I suppose they only wish they ran Google.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us
for reference
Oh, I’m not going to use Google Base without permission. (And further investigation.)
And what’s on the FAQ I’m building is not super senstive information (like passwords). Most of it’s publically avalible from our website but it’s the kind of stuff that’s spread out over several sub pages. We’ve tried to keep a binder of it handy, but that keeps getting misplaced.
“Who do I call on the weekend when there’s a plumbing problem?”
“How do I unjam one of the xeroxes?”
“Who do I call for remote access problems?”
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As for convincing Systems to install *anything*, these are the folks who don’t want to let us use Movable Type to update parts of the website because of potential security issues with the software.
Then again, I work just down the street from the Alexis Park hotel, so that might be part of the paranoia.
As an affiliate marketer – this will really take away from from my eBay commission business. Why? There are thousands of people like myself who target certain keywords using Google Adwords and make commission by linking to eBay to make a commission. Now I have a feeling those ads will be replaced with the Google Base Ads.
This can be an interesting turn – perhaps Google will have some affiliate program?!
I started a new forum where we can all discuss Google Base. I hope that you all join me in this!
http://www.googlebasetalk.com