“I find Tiger to be a good release in terms of its stability and some of the new features that it offers but I don’t think it is as much of an upgrade as Panther was. Gaming performance under Tiger seems better, but not much, while other parts of the system seem more sluggish.” Read the review here.
I love cutting edge reviews
so do i! 10.4 all the way!
oh well give a few months we be on 10.5 talk.
I love cutting edge reviews
Agreed. Must be a slow news day. Hopefully something exciting happens tomorrow, or we’ll be reading a review of the exciting improvements SP2 brings to XP.
O M G! 10.4 is out? Since when? I think I’m gonna wait until 10.4.1 comes out. Let Apple iron out some of the bugs that will no doubt be included…
OK – so that was me back in March??
What is with osnews.com keep adding these reviews about stuff that has been out a while. Like the Sony Ericsson K700 review the other day.
Come on osnews…great website, but quit posting stuff that we’ve already read a hundred reviews of anyway.
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Gaming performance under Tiger seems better, but not much, while other parts of the system seem more sluggish. In particular it seems to be taking too long for Open/Save dialogs to appear at the moment (10-seconds isn’t unusual) and I suspect that Spotlight might have its hand in this somewhere
With his extensive use of Tiger, Spotlight should have completed it’s initial indexing that occurs the first time it’s used.
What I suspect the reason for his slow Open/Save dialogs is that his hard drive is near full, prebinding needs to be updated or some general maintainence needs to be performed.
Laptops really don’t have performance hard drives and Mac OS X is heavily cache and swap dependant, the faster the I/O speed of the boot drive, the faster Mac OS X performs.
(I have a RAID O 2- 10,000 RPM Raptors SATA “short stroked” at -50% filled for maximum performance, along with over 4 GB of RAM)
This seems to be a hint later on down the road when flash based storage is used instead of hard drives.
Tiger has been proven to be slightly faster in CPU tests on just about all machines that will run it. The “user interface” speed has dramatically increased performance over Panther on just about every machine that will run it. (see Barefeats.com)
Depending on what games he ran, 3D games are certainly Powermac + hefty video territory. 3D games are heavily video card depandant anyway. So what little performance he did get with something that can record FPS, was CPU/OS related, which isn’t much naturally. Probably some tweaking.
His sluggishness might be caused by not having enough RAM combined with swaping memory to that filled slow boot drive.
Also having widgets takes memory, some even take CPU all the time even when Dashboard is not activated. (game mostly)
Apple’s niche market is the video/graphic/audio production so there is a bit of heavy duty features in there that most of the Mac hardware can’t fully use at this time. Unless one has a dual processor G5.
The PowerBook and iBook lines are in desperate need of processor upgrade, it’s IBM’s fault really for being unable to deliver cool G5 chips.
But since the entire industry has basically hit the wall, the RISC based chips a bit harder because there is more going on in them than with x86 based chips.
What I suspect the reason for his slow Open/Save dialogs is that his hard drive is near full, prebinding needs to be updated or some general maintainence needs to be performed.
well…Mac OS X Tiger displays a dialog if your hard drive is getting close to being full and it does not do pre-pinding anymore. AFAIK, there is no general maintenance that a Mac OS X user needs to perform. It had to be Spotlight, or maybe he had non-standard RAM and hard disk drivers that were “unsupported” in the upgrade.
Tiger has been proven to be slightly faster in CPU tests on just about all machines that will run it. The “user interface” speed has dramatically increased performance over Panther on just about every machine that will run it.
Under Tiger on Radeon 9600 (and equivalent nVidea) and above, most of the video objects are being stored in the graphics card’s memory and the GPU is used to directly render them. If your card runs out of memory, or if the card is older than a 9600, then Tiger will actually run slower than Panther because it is busy shuffling things back and forth between main memory and video card memory, or is using less efficient CPU-based routines instead of the GPU. Since you did not know this, I will not bother responding to the rest of your tripe.
well…Mac OS X Tiger displays a dialog if your hard drive is getting close to being full….
Drive performance begins to suffer after 50% filled, no matter what, on any computer, it gradually becomes worse and hitting the Mac OS X warning is irrelevant.
and it does not do pre-pinding anymore.
Application prebinding isn’t needed anymore, but System Prebinding is still in effect. Since users can only really do system prebinding (app prebinding done by the devs) , it’s still needed occassionally to improve system performance, especially after a clone.
Software Update does it automatically after some updates, that’s why one has to reboot.
AFAIK, there is no general maintenance that a Mac OS X user needs to perform.
And that’s where your wrong, I have performance machine and data to prove it.
Since you did not know this, I will not bother responding to the rest of your tripe either fucktard.
I get slowness in the open/save from time to time, but it’s not consistent and it’s hard to pinpoint what’s causing it.
Doth it run on my Dell?
>Cisco VPN Client still pretty rubbish after 4-months
Tell Cisco, this is not Apple’s Problem or Mac OS X’s, Apple had developer releases out very early. Cisco knew what was going to change, call Cisco’s tech support and tell them to get their thumbs out of their asses. You might as well put in “my coffee is cold”.
>H.264 codec support in QuickTime makes supporting videos
>look great but you need a faster CPU than what I’ve got
Well, I guess this is somewhat of a con, but that’s just life—every single time a new compression algorithm comes out it usually needs simply more power (because it’s got a higher compression rate) to be still played back in real time. That’s just business as usual. Also it might be a con for the current QuickTime release, but not directly for Tiger. Nobody forces you to use H.264. Even Apple Keynote was available in H.264 and MPEG-4.
Well, I guess this is somewhat of a con, but that’s just life—every single time a new compression algorithm comes out it usually needs simply more power (because it’s got a higher compression rate) to be still played back in real time. That’s just business as usual. Also it might be a con for the current QuickTime release, but not directly for Tiger. Nobody forces you to use H.264. Even Apple Keynote was available in H.264 and MPEG-4.
Even my 1.4Ghz mini has trouble with H.264 playback. I don’t get it – something that sucks this much power should probably be implemented in hardware.
A bigger problem with the current Quicktime release is that it broke the Ogg/Vorbis plugin and nobody seems willing to develop a new one, so half my music collection won’t play in iTunes. So much for the power of open source 🙁
Even my 1.4Ghz mini has trouble with H.264 playback. I don’t get it – something that sucks this much power should probably be implemented in hardware.
It is implemented in hardware on the brand new ATI and nVidia chipsets.
Personally I enjoy a few reviews about usability that come from experience with a system or program. Seems like a lot of reviews that come out within the first few days of a release are nothing more that press kits re-written along with a few personal axes to grind.
Regarding performance of Tiger, I can add from personal experience that it is faster than 10.3 on my G3 600 iMac. The only thing that can be wonky is playback of some videos at larger display sizes. But I can’t complain too much about a 4 year old machine.