Submitted by Sun Microsystems initiated a warmer stage in its relationship with Red Hat on Monday, making conspicuous room onstage for the rival at a major server product launch. Sun prefers customers to use its Solaris operating system, which chiefly runs on Sun servers using UltraSparc processors. And as Sun launches its “Galaxy” line of x86 servers, the company is aggressively trying to build support for the Unix variant on computers with Intel and Advanced Micro Devices processors as well.
Sun Extends Olive Branch to Red Hat
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Is Sun unhappy with the AMD sales?
I doubt it considering the last time I had one of the Sun SSE’s out at our site he was talking about one site that had 500 V20z’s and another that has 40. And that doesn’t include the 10 we own.
COnvert all of SGI’s graphics stuff to run on Solaris…
SGI has pretty much already sold off all of it’s valuable IP.
to microsoft (opengl)
to microsoft (opengl)
I did some research on the net, and all I found was that Microsoft purchased some patents that may cover OpenGL, but not OpenGL itself (obviously). I couldn’t find much more information on the subject though.
I don’t think Microsoft is a threat in regards to patents because of mutually assured destruction. IBM has bet a large part of their future on Linux and Open Source, and I very highly doubt Microsoft wants to fight a patent war with IBM, whose patent portfolio dwarfs Microsoft’s.
Coupled with the fact that patents aren’t exactly core to Microsofts stratergy; when it boils down to it – even if Mono was light years ahead of .NET in regards to server performance, the fact still remains, the developers would still be developing on a Windows platform, using Microsoft’s development studio – quite frankly, Microsoft is losing NOTHING out of the whole deal.
As for Microsoft Office; I doubt they would even worry about OpenOffice.org; OpenOffice.org doesn’t have the depth or the breadth of ISV’s basing their products off it nor does it have the legions of trained personals out there in the market place with the necessary skills to port or writing macros and other necessary automated business functions that businesses require.
Linux has turned the once-mighty SGI into an also-ran (actually it started with SGI doing Windows and Intel – but they had a chance to fix their mistake after Beluzzo was fired)
It makes no sense to promote linux when you can have the exact same stack of apps for free now that Solaris is open Source.
Regarding SGI; personally, I would have teamed up with SUN before the shit hit the fan, and worked to port Solaris to Itanium; Solaris, one of the most scalable operating systems out there, coupled with their moster NUMAflex architecture with 512cpus – not only would it have opened the door for more mindshare, in regards to scientific computing, it would have also offered SGI the possibility of having a product that could be used in a large enterprise environment.
Their workstations – same story; Itanium workstations loaded with Solaris – coupled with their extensive experience with GUI design, their input into GNOME development would have been valuable – coupled with an already extensive software list available for Solaris – it would be simply a matter of a recompile, optimise for many software applications.
RedHat is all about “free” and “open source”. Even if you are Microsoft or Sun you still can’t fight the power. This is where it all leads to, Red Hat is a top notch linux company. Their visionary response to every event is unmatched. They know the software and the hardware. There’s no fighting this pinnacle of excellence.
“RedHat is all about “free” and “open source”. Even if you are Microsoft or Sun you still can’t fight the power. This is where it all leads to, Red Hat is a top notch linux company. Their visionary response to every event is unmatched. They know the software and the hardware. There’s no fighting this pinnacle of excellence.”
Gee, let me guess which company you work for :->
> They know the software and the hardware.
BS…Linus doesn’t work for Redhat and most of Redhat is based on Fedora which gets all software done by programmers outside Redhat – so I personally think you’re talking about Redhat the “support” company – support in like “hey here’s my $50 and what’s the command to print out a directory listing?”
Redhat hasn’t written one program for Linux that is used by ALL distributions – name ONE!
This is a pure Troll. Lots of bits of the kernel and Gnome have been contributed by RedHat to the Linux code pool that is used by all distributions. I suggest that you download some of the sources and do a grep and you will soon find that I am correct.
Fedora is a community supported OS that tests leading edge apps & hw. This is then fed back into RHEL. Everything at source level in RHEL is downloadable. This is picked up by other Linux distros ad used.
So please go back to your closed source OS from M$ and get on with your dull dull life.
RedHat is attractive to many commercial S/W companies who use RHEL as a sold base to sell their products on. Sun obviously sees this as a potential lever to generate H/W sales now that they seem to be giving away most of their S/W now. So getting companies like RedHat & SUSE onboard is essential to their H/W sales.
<disclaimer>
I don’t work for RedHat but I use RHEL, Fedora and SUSE and develop software that uses commercial software such as Oracle, Websphere, DB2 that run on the above versions of Linux OOTB. Even the most die hard Debianites in my local LUG (hantslug) have to admit that RedHat contributes lots to FOSS. They just like doing things the hard way( as compared to some other distros). To me this is like mathmateticians proving an equation from first principals and then use it whereas, engineers just get on and use it. They both end up with the same result but get their by very different methods.
</disclaimer>
Sun changing their mind again. Now that’s news…
BS…Linus doesn’t work for Redhat and most of Redhat is based on Fedora which gets all software done by programmers outside Redhat
Linus doesnt but Alan Cox, Arjan, Rik, David, Steve, Ingo etc does
Redhat hasn’t written one program for Linux that is used by ALL distributions – name ONE!
How about several?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions
> How about several?
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions
Putting a one line fix or a feature to an existing project doesn’t make it “Redhat’s” program.
They list SELinux but we all freaking know that that work was started by the US NSA. Redhat may have contributed a bug fix but they certainly didn’t start the project.
They list USB – but the guy who started USB (Greg Hartman) is actually an IBM employee.
Redhat maintains Glibc but they sure as hell didn’t start writing Glibc from scratch – it was done by RMS’s FSF group.
Redhat doesn’t start developing a software package from scratch and open source it. They just glom onto projects and usurp them like SELinux or Gnome.
Finally read my sentence – I said Redhat hasnt’ written any software that is universally used by *ALL* distros. I’m talking about software like Mozilla, OO.org, Vi, Emacs, perl, sendmail, Gnome, KDE, X Windows, NFS, Samba, XMMS and core Linux utilities and libs.
I occasionally send in a linux kernel patch – that doesn’t make me the guy behind Linux!
SELinux user policies are completely maintained by Red Hat Red Hat wrote the entire targeted policy. They ship Fedora Core 3,4 and RHEL 4 with SELinux by default.
Written from scratch and included in nearly all the distributions now include
dbus
hal
metacity and various gnome utilities
nptl
Linux kernel 2.6 vm, 0(1) scheduler and by far the higher corporate contributor to Linux kernel code. go look at kernel source.
upcoming projects
evince
network manager
cairo and so on
Grep any major distribution source code and check
They can bring Red Hat on stage now because they know they’re starting to reclaim customers with Solaris on x64. What I see in my group is a wholesale shift away from Red Hat – either toward truly ‘free’, or to Solaris for enterprise stuff (on HP kit).
My bet is Red Hat is short lived, and Sun knows it. Now it’s about getting after their hardware base.