Ever since Xorg version changed from 6.8.2 to 6.9 in Mandriva 2006 betas, I can no longer install the ATI driver v.8.16.20. Does anyone know how the installation can be done?
You have to extract the ATI installer and you’ll find, if I understand correctly, a dedicated 6.9 directory you can install from. They don’t support installing on 6.9 for now, so you have to go through and do it manually. The commercial 2006 will have it all done through the installer of course.
This is shaping up to be another competent release from Mandriva – as ever, the distro’s evolving at a nice pace – incremental improvements across the board, and some new features – (the theme’s a slight improvement over 2005LE aswell, which is nice)
All in all, the distribution’s making steady progress – and it’s still clearly one of the most comprehensive, fully featured, general purpose distributions out there.
Xorg 6.9 CVS versions in Mandriva 2006 Beta has some issues with my on board intel 810 graphics card. This card does not work properly with 24 bit depth. Hence I have to fall back at 16 bit depth.
Also strangely, I am not able use virtual terminals with Ctrl + Alt + (F1-F7) keys.
I would recommend Mandriva to switch to Xorg 6.8 again and wait till mid october for Xorg 6.9/7 final release.
I would recommend Mandriva to switch to Xorg 6.8 again and wait till mid october for Xorg 6.9/7 final release.
Excuse me, but that does not make any sense. It is the equivalent to say that Longhorn/WinVista should roll back to the old driver model because the one it is using is not official.
That is what Betas and even Release Candidates are for, to test technology integration.
From RC1 to Official release there should be a 3-4 weeks period which would put us around mid october, the release date for Xorg 6.9/7.0 you mention.
According to Mandriva website, Mandriva 2006 final will be released around 20th of September 2005. Here is the timeline (They have been delayed by 4 days from estimated release date).
Debian is by far my favorite (fully free, updated almost daily, reasonably easy, add one or two extra entries to your sources.list and all commercial apps are one click away in Synaptic…)
However I like to dual boot. For a second distro there is no clear winner between SUSE and Mandriva. However Mandriva is more complete (full multimedia and P2P support)
SUSE on the other hand tends to have fewer bugs, and it has (semiofficial) apt support and a great rescue feature.
Seriously why upgrade? I’m using LE 2005 gnome is upgrade form 2.8 to 2.10 and as always they make a big deal of asynchronizing their development cycle 2.12 is out. Openoffice is upgraded to 1.5 but still a release candidate. May be I’m looking for something between mandriva and Fedora but I’ve always been a mandrake user… Just wanted something stable working out of the box
The biggest reason is support. LE 2005 was a limited release, so it won’t have the usual 12 / 18 months of support. Desktop updates for LE 2005 end on October 13, base system upgrades end April 13 next year. Apart from that, there’s the new stuff – the interactive firewall, the vastly improved drakroam, the new X.org, the improved boot time, and all upgraded packages. GNOME 2.10 isn’t a huge leap over 2.8 (and 2.12 isn’t a huge leap over 2.10…), but it’s nice to have.
Kat is installed by default…if you can work out how to use it. Beagle is in contrib; use Easy URPMI to setup a contrib source and then just do ‘urpmi beagle’ or search for it in the graphical installer, rpmdrake. You’ll have to enable extended attributes on the filesystem with /home on it, though – there’s instructions (it’s a small /etc/fstab change) on the Beagle wiki.
Great distro… i believe the 1-year release cycle will do much good to Mandriva.
I’m running right now Mdk 10.1… it’s so good and stable, i don’t feel like upgrading. Sometimes i do miss some new Gnome funcionalities though.
I guess the big reason why i haven’t upgraded is that i think it’ll probably break everything. Would it work if i’d try to upgrade from Mdk 10.1 to Mandriva 2006, using the upgrade tool in the CD?
Another reason to try mandriva; most likely the luck of the throw but mandriva is the first linux distro that I was able to get online using wireless at a hot spot. (I installed it at the hot spot, Pandera or otherwise known as The St. Louis Bread Company). the configuration was no harder than in windows.
why do you all make a big deal of the boot screen, it can be changed.
also, the crow….. I hate it too, but still it is very easily changed.
and the light themes, as far as I know, they can be changed too..
if you are all too lazy to change themes, why did you bother updating the system in the first place ? hehehe
I have tried a previous release, but will wait until the RC’s are finished and the download edition is released before I try it again.
I always keep a copy of mandrake/mandriva on a machine here, and it is always impressive, but I do like to wait until the software stabilizes a little.
Also, the name Mandriva…. I am not gay, I am completely straight, but the name does not make me conjure up images of “male sex tools”
Think of it this way… You might be a man working at your PC, and this DRIVES you to get more work done… NO ?
Please explain, whoever you are, why you voted down my reply to “why upgrade”. It was an entirely informational post with nothing remotely inflammatory, incorrect or off-topic in it. What can possibly be justification for voting it down?
I feel very much like you. I have been heavily modded down for expressing opinions, sometimes controversial, sometimes very reasonable, IMO. The last time was an opinion about the Kernel and Reiser4.
Therefore I have balanced your last 2 posts which had a minus sign.
Has anyone tried out the x64_64 version of this release. Maybe AdamW will be able to tell – will the final release for the 64bit be available for downloading ( assuming there will be more than 1 CD of iso)?
The 64-bit version is getting mainly good feedback on Club forums, although there’s still a few packages not in sync with 32-bit and ATI drivers aren’t working very well (although that’s not our fault :>). Sorry, I don’t know about the final release yet (the whole ‘one CD’ thing last time was rather odd, don’t know what the idea behind that was). Even if there isn’t a full ISO release, though, you can always get the single CD or the mini CD and fill out the rest of the install with urpmi, or do a network install from an FTP mirror.
Some packages that have been updated in the 32-bit version haven’t been updated in 64-bit, and there are still some packages in 32-bit that aren’t in 64-bit due to compilation issues etc.
I wish Mandriva would follow Linspire’s lead on commercial drivers. On Linspire, videos just play out of the box. On Mandriva you have to figure out which combination of drivers and players will be able to play the video you have just recorder from your camera, phone or downloaded from the web.
Ever since Xorg version changed from 6.8.2 to 6.9 in Mandriva 2006 betas, I can no longer install the ATI driver v.8.16.20. Does anyone know how the installation can be done?
You have to extract the ATI installer and you’ll find, if I understand correctly, a dedicated 6.9 directory you can install from. They don’t support installing on 6.9 for now, so you have to go through and do it manually. The commercial 2006 will have it all done through the installer of course.
This is shaping up to be another competent release from Mandriva – as ever, the distro’s evolving at a nice pace – incremental improvements across the board, and some new features – (the theme’s a slight improvement over 2005LE aswell, which is nice)
All in all, the distribution’s making steady progress – and it’s still clearly one of the most comprehensive, fully featured, general purpose distributions out there.
Xorg 6.9 CVS versions in Mandriva 2006 Beta has some issues with my on board intel 810 graphics card. This card does not work properly with 24 bit depth. Hence I have to fall back at 16 bit depth.
Also strangely, I am not able use virtual terminals with Ctrl + Alt + (F1-F7) keys.
I would recommend Mandriva to switch to Xorg 6.8 again and wait till mid october for Xorg 6.9/7 final release.
Tejas Kokje
I would recommend Mandriva to switch to Xorg 6.8 again and wait till mid october for Xorg 6.9/7 final release.
Excuse me, but that does not make any sense. It is the equivalent to say that Longhorn/WinVista should roll back to the old driver model because the one it is using is not official.
That is what Betas and even Release Candidates are for, to test technology integration.
From RC1 to Official release there should be a 3-4 weeks period which would put us around mid october, the release date for Xorg 6.9/7.0 you mention.
According to Mandriva website, Mandriva 2006 final will be released around 20th of September 2005. Here is the timeline (They have been delayed by 4 days from estimated release date).
http://qa.mandriva.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrivaLinux2006
This means that MDV 2006 will have CVS version of Xorg 6.9.
I wish they could provide option whether to install Xorg 6.9 CVS or Xorg 6.8.2 stable.
Tejas Kokje
I wish they could provide option whether to install Xorg 6.9 CVS or Xorg 6.8.2 stable.
I couldn’t agree more with you on that.
is there a good reason that i should use mandriva?
what makes mandriva more special than the other better distros that i would pay/donate/buy it?
Excellent, intuitive installer, great hardware support, relatively new packages, huge community, ect, ect.
I like Kubuntu these days, but I cut my teeth on Mandrake and check out Mandriva when I can.
Yep, and to add to that: Mandriva provides:
* Free to download.
* Excellent installer.
* Great hardware support.
* User-friendly OS for day-day usage.
* Good multimedia support (MP3 out of the box).
* Vast number of packages.
* Easy updates with Easy Urpmi or similar.
* Excellent Control Centre via the MCC.
* Excellent, user-friendly Security architecture (via the msec security levels) – easy on the fly security changes.
* A solid, mature, code-base relative to some of the newer, gimmicky distros.
Just a few things there……
For me Mandriva, Debian and SUSE are the top 3.
Debian is by far my favorite (fully free, updated almost daily, reasonably easy, add one or two extra entries to your sources.list and all commercial apps are one click away in Synaptic…)
However I like to dual boot. For a second distro there is no clear winner between SUSE and Mandriva. However Mandriva is more complete (full multimedia and P2P support)
SUSE on the other hand tends to have fewer bugs, and it has (semiofficial) apt support and a great rescue feature.
Seriously why upgrade? I’m using LE 2005 gnome is upgrade form 2.8 to 2.10 and as always they make a big deal of asynchronizing their development cycle 2.12 is out. Openoffice is upgraded to 1.5 but still a release candidate. May be I’m looking for something between mandriva and Fedora but I’ve always been a mandrake user… Just wanted something stable working out of the box
The biggest reason is support. LE 2005 was a limited release, so it won’t have the usual 12 / 18 months of support. Desktop updates for LE 2005 end on October 13, base system upgrades end April 13 next year. Apart from that, there’s the new stuff – the interactive firewall, the vastly improved drakroam, the new X.org, the improved boot time, and all upgraded packages. GNOME 2.10 isn’t a huge leap over 2.8 (and 2.12 isn’t a huge leap over 2.10…), but it’s nice to have.
Will it have Beagle.
It has the Kat desktop search facility (similar to Beagle).
Thanks. Haven’t heard of Kat. I’ll do some research on it.
Kat is installed by default…if you can work out how to use it. Beagle is in contrib; use Easy URPMI to setup a contrib source and then just do ‘urpmi beagle’ or search for it in the graphical installer, rpmdrake. You’ll have to enable extended attributes on the filesystem with /home on it, though – there’s instructions (it’s a small /etc/fstab change) on the Beagle wiki.
Great distro… i believe the 1-year release cycle will do much good to Mandriva.
I’m running right now Mdk 10.1… it’s so good and stable, i don’t feel like upgrading. Sometimes i do miss some new Gnome funcionalities though.
I guess the big reason why i haven’t upgraded is that i think it’ll probably break everything. Would it work if i’d try to upgrade from Mdk 10.1 to Mandriva 2006, using the upgrade tool in the CD?
the first thing to work out is how to remove all that horrid theaming… i dislike 2005’s crow and i dislike the light boot splash and such..
Another reason to try mandriva; most likely the luck of the throw but mandriva is the first linux distro that I was able to get online using wireless at a hot spot. (I installed it at the hot spot, Pandera or otherwise known as The St. Louis Bread Company). the configuration was no harder than in windows.
javajazz
Mandriva.
I refuse to use a distribution that sounds like some form of male sex tool.
Fuck off, you have been posting this drivel for months.
Get a fucking life, moron.
Theyv done great job in computer booting time. It was with 2005LE ~45 seconds, now ~30 seconds
Booting upto what?
To the login screen or to the full desktop (starting the desktop with auto-login as I used to configure my home computer)?
I’m guessing the former..
does it still have FREE plastered all over it ?
if so, so what ?
why do you all make a big deal of the boot screen, it can be changed.
also, the crow….. I hate it too, but still it is very easily changed.
and the light themes, as far as I know, they can be changed too..
if you are all too lazy to change themes, why did you bother updating the system in the first place ? hehehe
I have tried a previous release, but will wait until the RC’s are finished and the download edition is released before I try it again.
I always keep a copy of mandrake/mandriva on a machine here, and it is always impressive, but I do like to wait until the software stabilizes a little.
Also, the name Mandriva…. I am not gay, I am completely straight, but the name does not make me conjure up images of “male sex tools”
Think of it this way… You might be a man working at your PC, and this DRIVES you to get more work done… NO ?
Ah well, at least I tried to rationalise the name
Please explain, whoever you are, why you voted down my reply to “why upgrade”. It was an entirely informational post with nothing remotely inflammatory, incorrect or off-topic in it. What can possibly be justification for voting it down?
You still thought everyone was rational on the Web ?
I feel very much like you. I have been heavily modded down for expressing opinions, sometimes controversial, sometimes very reasonable, IMO. The last time was an opinion about the Kernel and Reiser4.
Therefore I have balanced your last 2 posts which had a minus sign.
But there is an unrepentant, idiotic gang of kids who have nothing better to do. Mod this down now.
Has anyone tried out the x64_64 version of this release. Maybe AdamW will be able to tell – will the final release for the 64bit be available for downloading ( assuming there will be more than 1 CD of iso)?
The 64-bit version is getting mainly good feedback on Club forums, although there’s still a few packages not in sync with 32-bit and ATI drivers aren’t working very well (although that’s not our fault :>). Sorry, I don’t know about the final release yet (the whole ‘one CD’ thing last time was rather odd, don’t know what the idea behind that was). Even if there isn’t a full ISO release, though, you can always get the single CD or the mini CD and fill out the rest of the install with urpmi, or do a network install from an FTP mirror.
Thanks for your kind input. Could you please shed light on what do you mean by “packages not in sync with 32-bit”?
Some packages that have been updated in the 32-bit version haven’t been updated in 64-bit, and there are still some packages in 32-bit that aren’t in 64-bit due to compilation issues etc.
I wish Mandriva would follow Linspire’s lead on commercial drivers. On Linspire, videos just play out of the box. On Mandriva you have to figure out which combination of drivers and players will be able to play the video you have just recorder from your camera, phone or downloaded from the web.