Submitted by Sun and General Motors have announced that GM will be building its entire SOA system on JES, which will be the largest single Java deployment ever. This marks both a victory for Sun’s new licensing policies, as well as makes Sun’s recent acquisition of SeeBeyond pay off. The new agreement will deploy Java’s full line of identity management services and development tools, running on Solaris 10.
Sun’s new strategy is appealing to businesses. From Java 5 to OpenSolaris to Opteron, they’ve really come around in the past couple years. They’ve also gone from bleeding money, to break-even, to profitable, too.
And people said big-ol’ Sun couldn’t compete in commodity markets. Well, they are!
Have you actually worked with any of the stuff they’re putting out now? We’ve got Sun boxes and JES platforms here, and it’s quite safe to say, they simply do not work, and require constant baby-sitting. The developers and techs that actually have to work with them are constantly insisting that we dump Sun and get something that actually works, so that we can actually spend time doing work instead of making it work.
Support? Please, don’t make me laugh. Their backline engineering always manages to get back to us after we’ve figured out the problem and a solution.
We got Windows, Linux, BSDs and Solaris servers. Guess which ones always has problems? Nope, not Windows, it’s Solaris. Sun’s new strategy isn’t appealing to businesses; Sun’s new strategy is bait and sucker management, because it certainly isn’t appealing once you get it. It wouldn’t actually be a problem if the bloody things actually worked. Going with Sun is just a massive resource drain. IBM, Microsoft, Oracle and others have far more cost and production effective platforms.
wow – pretty harsh words. I’d love to know who you worked for so we could find out how to help. We have tons of customers globally running Solaris/JES, and seeing radical cost/performance improvements.
What’s an “SOA” system?
Seminuclear Orthogonal Assimilation System
With about 2 seconds of effort and the help of google, soa turns out to mean “service oriented architecture.”
Next time, look it up yourself, it’s pretty easy.
SOA is a “hot” TLA and means “Service Oriented Architecture”. Essentially the goal is to make services within the company more loosely coupled and gain flexibility in the process.
What this means is that GM will be taking current systems as well as any new systems and integrate them using the JES as a foundation.
shows how much you guys know,
its obviously a device for world domination
SOA is a “hot” TLA and means “Service Oriented Architecture”. Essentially the goal is to make services within the company more loosely coupled and gain flexibility in the process.
SOA (can’t be bothered to spell it out) is a marketing term designed to make something that has been around for years look brand new. IBM, Microsoft and Sun may be hyping it and trying to make money from it, but for the companies who look at implementing this crap they’ve already abandoned it because they simply cannot work out what it is. Even if they do, it’s everything that’s been done before except even more badly.
Did SUN get GM and GE in the same day? Does anyone know which is which? Which one did they really get?
It was both – Solaris 10 & JES stack for GM (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050727/sfw016.html?.v=17) and primarily the Identity Suite for GE (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050801/nym052.html?.v=18). Yes I work for Sun…
I never understand the stockmarket. You’d expect Sun to be up, but it’s down half a percent. Someone know more than us?
Well, atleast it isn’t over valued like certain companies listed on the sharemarket. Companies making less than Teltra Australia, and yet have share values 100x that of Telstra.
The sharemarket is market based around the bigger fool, hype and speculation – people have been burned during the dot-con bust, and people will never learn – they’ll repeat the same mistake over and over again – investing into ‘cool’ companies have no basic fundamentals.
Sun’s first real customer for JES!
Oh no, sorry I forgot. They’re giving it away because GM is the only company saying anything favourable about Solaris 10, or Sun in general, and is the only company talking about moving away from Linux.