Java-based open source development has come a long way since the early days of developers sharing GUI libraries. Geronimo is a large-scale project attempting to create a certified J2EE 1.4 server based on existing open source components. Take a tour through the Geronimo maze with Sing Li as your guide. Gluecode Software CTO and principal Geronimo contributor Jeremy Boynes shares his perspective on Geronimo and go here to learn how to use the new Eclipse plug-in for Apache Geronimo.
Geronimo! Part 1: The J2EE 1.4 engine that could
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Sometimes these apache based projects run under the radar while your to busy hacking your own axis or activemq or tomcat based project there creating something evolutionary better that will save you time
cant wait to try it tomorrow!
Or, for a different, less-glowing perspective, read what Hani has to say: http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20050507#death_to_apache and http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20050511#ibm_owns_26_3_of
How does it compare to jboss?
Or these are just different things?
>Or, for a different, less-glowing perspective, read what Hani has to say:
This guy is really funny. Give this man a daily editiorial spot in OSNews right now. I haven’t laughed as much by a technical article in a long time.
Unless you really have a need for EJB, JMS, or JCA, there’s really not much reason to run a heavy-weight J2EE server. Especially with frameworks out, like Spring, which allows for a lighter-weight, ‘pluggable’ arch.
EJB servers might have been a good idea 4 or 5 years ago, but frankly, they’re too much nowadays and unless you really are part of an ‘Enterprise’, then this stuff is all overkill and can be accomplished with smaller libs deployed in Tomcat, Resin, etc…
While it’s great that there’s more competition in this arena, I think Geronimo is just another solution looking for a problem.
I have said it from day one…and I am only a student so what do I know? I have said exactly what Hani has said to all the people who are all for a pro Java… I mean for crying out loud people want Java running on SkyOS and MenuetOS and so on!! Good god people you are going to waste millions of manhours and god knows how much money to build Open JAva (whatever the f*** that means) and run it on OSes like that?! Thats the main motivation?!?!? Hani has said everything I wanted to say.
heres the problem, how the hell are you going to pitch GNU classpath to your typical middle manager? how are you going to pitch IKVM? its kind of hard, theres a level of trust that just isnt there in the rest of the world, GNU is more known for funky cool-aid then for enterprise platforms. (note: please, no flaming, im not saying thats all they are about, im saying thats the perception.)
apache has got to have the single best “brand” name in opensource when it comes to management. they are fairly clueless in general about non microsoft products, but apache is one of the few that is on their radar. harmony could mean real support for a non sun jvm, and that is good for everyone. the only other people who would really be in a position to do this is IBM, but they wouldnt be able to without sun fighting them every step of the way.
even though i do agree with him that its not to bright to start totally from scratch (why not fork classpath?), i think legitimizing a free jvm will be a very good thing.