Novell has released a free live DVD edition of SUSE LINUX 9.3.
SUSE LINUX 9.3 Live DVD Available
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Novell has released a free live DVD edition of SUSE LINUX 9.3.
Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker.
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Well…I guess SuSE’s live CD’s and DVD’s are good for showing people how the suse thing works and looks, but I haven’t been too impressed. I’m VERY impressed with the full distro, installed on a hard drive…I’m using 9.2 now and 9.3 is in the mail.
But for a LIVE DVD, or CD, I’m still a knoppix fan….
Have been installing 9.3 as my default OS tonight. All I can say so far is that I am very impressed by the distro. Sane defaults and professional look and feel. I particularly like the new boot and login splash screen.
Hope the live DVD convinces more people to maybe try SUSE.
The only problem I have so far is that the default font sizes look way too large even at just 10pt sans-serif at 1280×1024.
Anybody have any ideas?
you can get help by other SuSe-lovers in this very friendly forum: http://www.suseforums.net ; if you create an account, you can ask you r SuSe questions there.
Hope they will release the DVD pro version for free so that I can install it on computers of a public school I help.
Anyway, I will buy a full version to me. Now I split my time between FreeBSD 5.3, Suse 9.2 and Slackware-current. Never thought could be so hard to pick one.
@Anonymous (IP: —.dip.t-dialin.net):
You speak German, so have a look at this thread:
http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=178487
Anonymous (IP: —.austin.res.rr.com):
Nice Try!
Does 9.3 have the GL-based X server they have been talking about?
No thats planned for Novell Desktop 10 in Q4 I think.
I wanted to download Suse but I had to download 3 iso’s !
Why!
Shouldn’t they have one version thats plain without all the extras .
I didn’t download it.
Install from FTP? Looks like the directories are filling up on SUSE’s ftp and the mirrors:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/
Sounds like the X server isn’t detecting your monitor geometry correctly. I don’t think there’s much you can do with a live CD, but if you were running from the HDD, you can try starting X with an explicit dpi value, eg.
startx — -dpi 75
You can now also pre-order SuSE 9.3:
http://www.abend.org/article.php/20050415002147486
I really like my 9.1 install. If one wanted a good linux system suse would be a good choice for many situations. As for a simple ftp install sure, it would be a good project for someone or group. I realize Novell has no motivation to make an easy ftp install disk. The ftp install is also good for people like me who are too cheap to get a dvd rom. True also is that one can order it with instructions and media and just do updates for a while.
I know SUSE is a KDE distro, but GNOME in the live DVD is very slick.
You can also BUY it at:
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/pricing.html
🙂
SuSE is following Redhat.
Starting with 9.3 SuSE removed mp3 support from all included players except RealPlayer.
Thats not exactly correct. I just got 9.3 today and installed it on my amd64 box. During the install there was an option for 4 multimedia choices. I didn’t read them but selected them anyway…mp3’s work fine in amarok. BTW the nvidia driver was installed with 3d accelaration. America’s Army works quite nicely : )
Overall it is quite nice, so far so good…
As a side note, while waiting for suse 9.3 to arrive I played with fedora core 3 and kubuntu. They are both nice as well, however, neither works as well as suse “out of the box”.
Things I noted with suse was that suns java 1.4.2 was loaded as was the plugin. The latest adobe(7) is there too. Multimedia does work, as I mentioned above. The nvidia driver with acceleration is a big plus, it just works. Granted I was able to get it to work in kubuntu but didn’t get so far with fedora.I haven’t gotten to Xen or Beagle yet…they look interesting.Overall, I had the suse 9.3 box on my network within an hour.
Giving me the time to wite this post rather than search the web for the How-To for fedora/kubuntu…
Cheers!
Does anybody know whether SUSE 9.3 includes Java 1.5 (or J2SE 5.0, or whatever it’s called now)? One of the shortcomings of 9.2 was IMHO the fact that it only had 1.4.2, with no (easy or moderately easy) way to upgrade to 1.5 [without breaking SUSE’s Java configuration, etc.]. Thanks!
9.3 comes with this:
java-1_4_2-sun – Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment
not FTP install those are addon for cd installs. which has less files than the DVD version
Have you considered upgrading to the newest version, Microsoft Windows XP Professional? I hear they have fixed that problem.
Cool! Where’s the download link?
😉
Here is the list:
http://www.thmoritz.de/old/linux/suse93/suse93.html
@Marciano:
SuSE 9.3 comes with Java 1.5.0. But you can keep your 9.2 if you wish because upgrading is less difficult than you might think. SuSE follows the jpackage.org conventions, so you can get the src.rpm from there and rebuild it, this will keep your configuration intact. Maybe you can even install the 9.3 packages on your 9.2, it might be worth a try.
@bigpook:
This is not correct. Java 1.5.0 is included. Look here:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.3/suse/i…
java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-alsa-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-demo-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-devel-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
java-1_5_0-sun-src-1.5.0_01-5.i586.rpm
BTW, all the binary packages are online now. This is the first time that SuSE releases the binary packages online simultaneously with the boxed version.
Here be no ftp murderers!
http://www.tlm-project.org/torrents/suse/i386/9.3/SL-9.3-LiveDVD-i3…
Thanks G. W. for pointing that out.1_5 is indeed there, however for some reason 1_4 is what got installed.
those are not all the binary. it is the add-on for people who install with cd’s to get all the files as on the dvd version. so it is not all the binary files. just missing ones not on the cd version.
How are you guys installing it already? Or do you just mean “running the Live DVD”
I found some mirrors that seem to have full package lists, but there is no 9.3 FTP install boot cd available on them yet.
Could it be, that you have mp3 support, because you downloaded some packages?
I thought there were no such packages “in-the-box”.
How are you guys installing it already? Or do you just mean “running the Live DVD”
I found some mirrors that seem to have full package lists, but there is no 9.3 FTP install boot cd available on them yet.
Maybe they bought the boxed set. Suse 9.3 went on sale this week.
Sorry, I wasn’t more clear…I installed the box set. I suppose at this point I am way off topic. I have no idea what the Live disk has…..sorry
I thought the Box would sell when it shipped, which was the 25th? (I thought)
So its out at retail stores now? Or you got it shipped?
Sorry, I’m so confused. :p
I got an email on the 12th that it shipped. Came home from work on Friday and there it was behind the door.
As a note, some posts are concerned about the multimedia side of suse 9.3( I read the mad penguin review and he was upset too, however I think Novell listened because after doing the install you get to do the online update. There are 4 multimedia option packs you get to download). MP3’s are playing in amarok.MPG’s play in Kaffeine too…
and for full multimedia support you should install packmans rpms anyway (just add the yast source or use apt4rpm)
Does anyone know, is there an actual differece between the Student Pro version and the Pro version? I don’t see any listed on the site. Is it simply a discount for us poor students? I don’t want to buy a crippled product.
Student version and Pro version are identical, except for that the Student version is “cheaper” (or, let’s say, less expensive). Don’t mix this with the Update version. The Update version has the same price as the Student version, but is “crippled” in that it does not contain any printed manuals, which the Student version does.
frankly the only reason I switched from SuSE to Gentoo was that I wanted new packages ASAP. If that isn’t important to you than I cannot generally recommend anything better.
Anyone know if there is a PPC version?
There is no ppc version for home users, only x86 and x86_64.
It looks like you still can’t install (or in this case even run the live dvd) from an external usb dvd drive.. I’ve tried this several times with Suse and a few other distros as well and they all die on startup… I think it may be because of the way the kernel is started up that it loses the usb connection while initialising and then as it can’t read the media goes into a kernel panic…
I have suse working away fine on two other machines no problem but I’m loath to install an internal dvd drive just for the install (especially as I don’t have a spare one to hand).. Could do it over the network install but when someone pays 80 euro for an OS you should be able to install from the media in my opinion..(even xp lets you do this )
frankly the only reason I switched from SuSE to Gentoo was that I wanted new packages ASAP. If that isn’t important to you than I cannot generally recommend anything better.
Gentoo offers more than new packages.At some areas Gentoo goes further were SuSE hasn’t even entered yet.Advanced security meganisms.For example it’s possible to install rsbac,grsecurity,pax etc on any linux distro.However not only SuSE doesn’t provide documentation and a mailing list,etc, for those who want to push the envelope there’s nothing.SuSE is a good developers platform for Linux ,but so is Gentoo,and it offers the aforementioned extra ereas i just described which SuSE soley lacks (no prob if you don’t need it,it’s just fine)
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congrats to all that have just bought or downloaded 9.3
The DVD doesn’t boot on my laptop, in which the video card shares the main memory with the CPU (it shows a message saying “Cool computer…but Suse 9.3 needs at least 256Mbs of RAM) but it also doesn’t work in my desktop which has 256Mbs main memory and a video card with its own 64Mbs.
Anyone else had this problem or am I the only one with 256Mbs RAM? 🙂
for those who havnt seen what suse 9.3 is like, check it out.
review > http://linux-noob.com/review/
screenshots from start to finish > http://www.linux-noob.com/screenshots/suse/9.3/
i’d recommend those that have not yet tried or seen suse 9.3 professional to download the live DVD 🙂
it really is a great distro, kudos to Novell !
cheers
anyweb
> The Update version has the same price as the Student version, but is “crippled” in that it does not contain any printed manuals.
That’s wrong. The update version contains a printed manual (in comparison to two printed manuals for full version), afaik you get ~500 printed pages instead of ~1000.