Its not the first, theres been very basic AWT screenshots before, but its the first proof that Java2D works in any way, which is what Swing, etc needs.
And even more proof that BeOS isn’t dead– development still continues. Man, it’s great to see Java working on the Be, yet another gap is being filled. I almost lost my trust in BeOS ever crawling out of the valley, but it sure seems like it that the BeOS community has found a path uphill– a rocky, and dangerous path– but it’s a path allright.
This is the first visual evidence of a working Java2D implementation that plays nice with our AWT implementation.
At waltercon I demonstrated a test strategy of creating AWT peer objects using our awt toolkit class. It wasn’t creating real AWT peers, but it was creating onscreen objects that acted for all intents and purposes, like AWT components should.
A few weeks after that, the above AwtTest class would run, GUI components and all. However, without a Java2D implementation no Graphics object support existed. Well, as you can see, that’s no longer the case.
The point is, I’ve had visual evidence shared on BeShare in the form of screenshots of working awt programs complete with layout managers, components of all available types, etc. for some time. Just none of them could paint(). :-p
The AWT components themselves aren’t feature complete yet — but they’re all implemented to some degree, and working.
To the IDE that I’m hoping many will want to buy and use
I don’t care which language(s) people wish to use, either human or programming language. If there’s enough demand for it, I wish to scratch that itch!
So, who in the Be community wishes to have a BeOS native (not Java application, but native compiled app) Java-supporting IDE? (to go alongside support for programming in C/C++, the most BeOS native programming languages)…
This news is great news for me, and not only because it provides anothr viable target to develop for: I’m actually using Java apps as part of my development now, which (unfortunately) requires using Windows (or another OS) for certain things. Having Jikes alone isn’t enough for what I need to do, unfortunately
Having seen on some screenshots that BeIDE can actually be configured to manage, edit, compile java projects, BeOS already has a java ide
Anyway, once Swing starts to work, we’ll have NetBeans.
SWT should be ported as ASAP, and we’ll have Eclipse.
Who needs more stuff? Well, maybe IDEA. Next landmark should be J2EE of course.
And all in all, I think present day developers for the platform should deal with things like java, or writing device drivers for the OS, so once Haiku is ready, we’ll have support for a whole bunch of stuff. Any working bluetooth driver yet? We should be able to sync cellphone address book vCards, and stuff like that.
Well, maybe I’ll rebuild my old PIII PC as a Dual Slot 1 with UW SCSI box .
And I almost forgot. To the java guys:
Man, you guys rule! You just showed how to breath life into BeOS! Keep up the good work! And show how Be can be really revived to those guys who think writing shitty GUI apps will lure back users and developers . Think in big scale! Yeah, you guys rock!
I agree with ar Bluetooth would really help especially since I just got a handheld pc thingy.
I think the Java people have done a great job so far and can’t wait till I’ll be able to use the Java Yahoo Messenger. Will the Java implemention on BeOS be faster than on Windows?
Coooool! When do we get the MS Office port. What about Doom 3 and Half Life 2. I am sure the HL2 port will be ready just after launch. I can’t wait. Man, I am so glad to hear that BEOS isn’t dead, I’m going to be getting all these great apps…and soon!!!
What do you mean? Do you mean to say that, because there is no MS Office, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 on BeOS, it’s not good for your needs? Well, in that case, I completely agree. But if you mean to say that BeOS is a bad OS just because those programs were not ported to it, I think you are wrong. There are other operating systems that don’t have those, and are still very popular and/or widespread and installed on many computers.
BeOS is used by maybe a few thousand users, and in spite of this, a lot of development is happening in and around BeOS. For and OS with such a tiny number of users, this is a great achievement.
Java on BeOS : I would say this is a pretty impressive feature. I think that in the coming months we will see a lot of people (individuals as well as entire businesses) switching to BeOS from MacOS or Linux, just because of this. This is the year BeOS is going to make a big impact on IT everywhere. Right now I am switching! Really !
BeOS is used by maybe a few thousand users, and in spite of this, a lot of development is happening in and around BeOS. For and OS with such a tiny number of users, this is a great achievement.
Its not the first, theres been very basic AWT screenshots before, but its the first proof that Java2D works in any way, which is what Swing, etc needs.
And even more proof that BeOS isn’t dead– development still continues. Man, it’s great to see Java working on the Be, yet another gap is being filled. I almost lost my trust in BeOS ever crawling out of the valley, but it sure seems like it that the BeOS community has found a path uphill– a rocky, and dangerous path– but it’s a path allright.
Congratulations!
Well Done!!
Now, after that, only misses a BeOS Oracle port to me develop Comercial Applications, hehe
Great news!
Michael Vinícius de Oliveira
~ BlueEyedOS.com Webmaster ~
Nice to have some news of Java port…
BeOS 2004 christmas gift ? ;-P
This is the first visual evidence of a working Java2D implementation that plays nice with our AWT implementation.
At waltercon I demonstrated a test strategy of creating AWT peer objects using our awt toolkit class. It wasn’t creating real AWT peers, but it was creating onscreen objects that acted for all intents and purposes, like AWT components should.
A few weeks after that, the above AwtTest class would run, GUI components and all. However, without a Java2D implementation no Graphics object support existed. Well, as you can see, that’s no longer the case.
The point is, I’ve had visual evidence shared on BeShare in the form of screenshots of working awt programs complete with layout managers, components of all available types, etc. for some time. Just none of them could paint(). :-p
The AWT components themselves aren’t feature complete yet — but they’re all implemented to some degree, and working.
joy joy joy
As an old BeKaffe developer – this warms my heart!
And even Duncan McQueen (if that’s really you, Duncan) chimes in! What can make my day even more complete?
WOO HOO!
SOooo good to hear BeOS Related POSITIVE news.
To the IDE that I’m hoping many will want to buy and use
I don’t care which language(s) people wish to use, either human or programming language. If there’s enough demand for it, I wish to scratch that itch!
So, who in the Be community wishes to have a BeOS native (not Java application, but native compiled app) Java-supporting IDE? (to go alongside support for programming in C/C++, the most BeOS native programming languages)…
This news is great news for me, and not only because it provides anothr viable target to develop for: I’m actually using Java apps as part of my development now, which (unfortunately) requires using Windows (or another OS) for certain things. Having Jikes alone isn’t enough for what I need to do, unfortunately
Build a BE… and they (I) will come.
Having seen on some screenshots that BeIDE can actually be configured to manage, edit, compile java projects, BeOS already has a java ide
Anyway, once Swing starts to work, we’ll have NetBeans.
SWT should be ported as ASAP, and we’ll have Eclipse.
Who needs more stuff? Well, maybe IDEA. Next landmark should be J2EE of course.
And all in all, I think present day developers for the platform should deal with things like java, or writing device drivers for the OS, so once Haiku is ready, we’ll have support for a whole bunch of stuff. Any working bluetooth driver yet? We should be able to sync cellphone address book vCards, and stuff like that.
Well, maybe I’ll rebuild my old PIII PC as a Dual Slot 1 with UW SCSI box .
And I almost forgot. To the java guys:
Man, you guys rule! You just showed how to breath life into BeOS! Keep up the good work! And show how Be can be really revived to those guys who think writing shitty GUI apps will lure back users and developers . Think in big scale! Yeah, you guys rock!
I agree with ar Bluetooth would really help especially since I just got a handheld pc thingy.
I think the Java people have done a great job so far and can’t wait till I’ll be able to use the Java Yahoo Messenger. Will the Java implemention on BeOS be faster than on Windows?
While I must confess to being largely multiplatform, BeOS is still my base, my “Home, Sweet home”, and Java is definitely great having! Go Batmobile!
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Coooool! When do we get the MS Office port. What about Doom 3 and Half Life 2. I am sure the HL2 port will be ready just after launch. I can’t wait. Man, I am so glad to hear that BEOS isn’t dead, I’m going to be getting all these great apps…and soon!!!
What do you mean? Do you mean to say that, because there is no MS Office, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 on BeOS, it’s not good for your needs? Well, in that case, I completely agree. But if you mean to say that BeOS is a bad OS just because those programs were not ported to it, I think you are wrong. There are other operating systems that don’t have those, and are still very popular and/or widespread and installed on many computers.
BeOS is used by maybe a few thousand users, and in spite of this, a lot of development is happening in and around BeOS. For and OS with such a tiny number of users, this is a great achievement.
BeOS is used by maybe a few thousand users
I would even guess it’s a few ten thousand.
If one day DeOS fully support the last Java VM (and performance is good) I’ll switch to it as my main desktop OS!
Java on BeOS : I would say this is a pretty impressive feature. I think that in the coming months we will see a lot of people (individuals as well as entire businesses) switching to BeOS from MacOS or Linux, just because of this. This is the year BeOS is going to make a big impact on IT everywhere. Right now I am switching! Really !
BeOS is used by maybe a few thousand users, and in spite of this, a lot of development is happening in and around BeOS. For and OS with such a tiny number of users, this is a great achievement.
the Quality, not the quantity…
I don’t know what the heck this anonymous bafoon is talking about. I have never deleted a comment from my blog.
Six years too late. Lack of java was my main reason for leaving BeOS behind for the sunny shores of Mac OS X.
Of course, BeOS would have been better…
I agree. Although I could have held out until 2001.
My hardware won’t even run BeOS anymore, and I’ve moved away from Java.
An amazing accomplishment to be sure, but a bittersweet one.