Speaking at the Gartner Symposium and ITxpo 2004 in Orlando, Florida, yesterday, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer outlined new security initiatives, some of which would make it into a pre-Longhorn ‘Release 2’ for Windows, next year.
Ballmer flags security for a pre-Longhorn Windows ‘Release 2’
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This pre-Longhorn “Release 2” sounds like a provisional release.
In Italy we say: “There is not so definitive than what is provisional”.
Bye bye Longhorn. 😀
I will believe it when I see it.
“…He also had an interesting tongue in cheek riposte to reports that Linux is fast gaining market share in emerging markets. ‘People say China. Our products have higher market share in China than they do in this country, most of it, of course, not paid for. We didn’t adopt the conscious pricing strategy in China to match Linux prices; it’s just that’s what most people happen to pay us.'”
Funniest thing I’ve heard all day – and I agree with it completely.
More secure means they won’t need the firewall any more right? wrong. Why does all this shit still need to be in listening state? I got a newly installed copy of XP SP1 on the machine next to me and I have to turn on the firewall before I have to connect it to the net to download SP2.
That is BS, I want a smaller attack footprint. That would be more secure, what Ballmer means to say is there will be more bloat to sell more hardware with copies of windows tied to them.
MSFT has stayed within a three dollar range for three years now. This is because investors seem to think that while Microsoft has some great cash cows already on the market, they don’t have much in the works to encourage new spending.
Office releases that offer no new useful features aren’t doing it.
XBox is losing money.
Everyone who wants XP or Win2K already has it.
Microsoft desperately needs to pump life into its stock, and a major-minor OS release is being trotted out for this reason only.
“Those that do buy computers are affluent enough to afford Windows as well…”
Where does he live? Not in the real world for sure.
Here in the UK “engineers” put together PCs for less than £200 and then they slapdash a copy of Windows 98 on them (I have tried to persuade them that a recent linux distribution would be better)
I went to a southern European country: same story. Only everybody uses pirated copies of Windows XP Pro instead.
He also had an interesting tongue in cheek riposte to reports that Linux is fast gaining market share in emerging markets. ‘People say China. Our products have higher market share in China than they do in this country, most of it, of course, not paid for. We didn’t adopt the conscious pricing strategy in China to match Linux prices; it’s just that’s what most people happen to pay us.’
But on the question of whether Microsoft should actually drop its prices to make Windows more affordable, he remained unmoved. His position is that those that do buy computers are affluent enough to afford Windows as well, and those that can’t afford their own computers are unlikely to pay for Windows either.
He just said people who can afford a computer can afford Windows and that their products have the highest market share. Let’s use some logic, however. By definition, to be part of the market share, you have to have a computer in the first place, so by his logic those people are able to afford Windows. Yet he concedes that most of their market share doesn’t pay for Windows.
Util I see proof of Longhorns “Improved” security, I will avoid it. If with Longhorn I see one piece of spyware or one virus problem, I will dump Longhorn and Windows once and for all.
Util I see proof of Longhorns “Improved” security, I will avoid it. If with Longhorn I see one piece of spyware or one virus problem, I will dump Longhorn and Windows once and for all.
Instead of trying to project a facade of reason with an impossibly high standard, why not just be honest, say “I think Windows sucks” and be done with it ?
If WinXP will be around eur 100 I will buy my own copy , until then I’ll stick with my OEM version.
what M$ needs to do is split into to groups one that keeps working on “windows” and another that is the best people they have that start a compleatly new os from the ground up they could even make it only run on certin hardware so it could be more closly tied to the hardware making it more stable this new OS they could start by only marketing it to schools and Developers… wait that kinda reminds me of them mac people my bad god forbid a good idea
why the hell should they dump the kernel, it’s the best part of their OS.
Here comes Windows ME all over again!
your right i should have said just dump it all for a topic instead of dump the kernel they should just start compleatly fresh oh wait thats what my post said i just said kernel for the topic because i was hoping for somebody to respond to me
your right i should have said just dump it all for a topic instead of dump the kernel they should just start compleatly fresh oh wait thats what my post said i just said kernel for the topic because i was hoping for somebody to respond to me
I somewhat agree. I don’t think they should dump everything though, the kernel itself is just fine.
I feel they should dump a lot of the services running on the kernel and rethink the security architecture. Use VPC for creating a classic emulation layer for Win32 and make the existing applications conform to the new security system via the emulation interface.
The NT kernel itself is quite robust and just fine. Its just some of the code riding on the kernel I wonder about.
“Instead of trying to project a facade of reason with an impossibly high standard, why not just be honest, say “I think Windows sucks” and be done with it ?”
Why use a common phrase? I like to be more creative.
Passing the buck, yet again.
SP2 was supposed to fix their ills.
Not it’s R2. Just wait until R2. They
we’ll get it right.
Here’s a prediction:
This time next year after R2, it’ll be, “just wait for longhorn. this time we got it right. seriously guys.”