Konstruct hasn’t even finished compiling RC1 which has been compiling for over 24 hours now… and RC2 is out already? Is there a diff out there between RC1 and RC2?
These KDE developers are totally infuriating! How dare they release another release canditate so soon after another! This is too much to deal with. I am going to using Microsoft XP where releases are few and far between so as not to upset my uneventful life
Seriously though, these guys are doing awesome work and I bid them the best of everything. At the pace they are making progress, Longhorn will be Lovelorned and playing catch up. Just my humble opinion. Go KDE!
First of all, I don’t like the default theme! And many, many Joe Braindeads, erm Joe Averages, don’t know how to change the theme! This is totally unacceptable! I demand that my taste is the taste everyone has to follow after!
Second, I don’t like that I still have to move my mouse. In the 25 years that I have used Lynux, I kind of expected it to finally be able to know where I want to move my mouse without my input. On the other hand, maybe Project Utopia finally brings relief to this absurd situation, it would be about time!
Third, even though I haven’t used KDE 3.x, there are still too many options, read: bloat. I don’t want those stupid moveable windows, this is just plain confusing! And who needs to be able to run multiple programs at once? All of this regularly makes my head explode, which is a damn shame, because I now have to find another place where I can put all the hay.
Unless this is fixed, I refuse to touch KDE and will stay with my trusted, featureful TWM or the totally unbloated Windows XP!
I still don’t get the attachment to Keramik though. Every review or article I see about KDE mentions how they don’t like that theme, yet it always stays as default. One of the devs must really love that ugly theme or something.
I hear Plastik finally made it into the included themes though. That decision alone will same TONS of bandwidth on the mirrors.
Has anyone made KDE pretty yet? For some reason I just can’t bring myself to like the way it seems to use monstrous fonts by default and has bucket loads of space in menus on the right hand side of each item.
I really want to like KDE but there’s just far too much bloat in it (and I can’t be bothered with customising the menu). I’m going to stick with WindowMaker for now methinks.
Some of the stuff on KDElook is damned sexy though
The KDE people take their releases seriously, the default theme won’t change till a major version number bump, i.e. you’re going to have to wait till KDE 4.0.
Also there’s the fact that a whole bunch of screenshots on the website and the documentations, each of which is duplicated for every supported language, would have to be re-taken if they were to change the default theme.
Try downloading QtCurve. It looks a bit like Plastik, and is available in a single package for KDE and GTK. Makes for a nice looking desktop.
by some of the stuff I mean the karamba stuff and some of the themes… None of the themes fix the most basic issues of huge menus and too much space in them.
Kinda funny that you think there’s too much space between menu items. Eugenia is always complaining that there is too little and the menus read like a sentence
Because the 3.2 development took too long. Because the life-cycle of Qt 4.x shall be joined at earliest possible time (and Qt 4 was once planned to be released this year).
I think it is because they wanted to get all of the kontact stuff in, and polish it before switching to 4.0 development. This way we will have a nice final release of the 3 series to use while we wait for 4.0 which will probably take a while due to all of the overhalling they want to do.
Yes folks, I think you are too harsh on good ol’ Keramik. Some aspects of it are fine. Others are overdone. I have a system running with Keramik window decorations (left justified), Plastik widget style elements, and a Redmond 2000 color scheme. The effect is quite striking, and attractive.
As an aside, this is one of the things I like about KDE, its granularity.
One of the things I really like about KDE 3.3 is the new theme manager. When you’ve got your Desktop just right, it’s a matter of saving the settings to a theme and then, no matter what havoc you wreak, you can always go back. I’ve got a dedicated plastic theme, a theme that mimics MacOS 9 and one that mimics CDE.
Konqueror in 3.3 is a much much much improved than in 3.2 overall. I think it has benefited a great deal from all the Safari changes. All web pages that I visit are rendered very quickly and correctly. I hardly ever have a need to launch Firefox.
I can’t say the same thing about it’s handling of all the plugins yet though.
This is gr8. I hope after a few days we’re getting the 3.3 final.
Anyone knows when to expect kde4. This is gonna rock so bad, microsoft will regret it is not miKrosoft
“This is gr8. I hope after a few days we’re getting the 3.3 final.”
i think its going to be released not until after aKademy (21 – 28 august)
“[…]This is gonna rock so bad, microsoft will regret it is not miKrosoft ”
lol
The betas had RPMs. Why not the RCs?
Creating binaries takes time. Too much for this quick release candidates series.
> i think its going to be released not until after aKademy (21 – 28 august)
Why? Do you hold back the report for a showstopper?
> Creating binaries takes time. Too much for this quick release candidates series.
Je, je. Well it takes longer on my 800 mhz Duron!
Apparently, KDE 3.3 will be released just before aKademy (21 – 28 august)…
Je, je. Well it takes longer on my 800 mhz Duron!
Maybe you should just hang back and wait for 3.3 final, then?
Partially available, but not yet released. Please wait a few hours.
Partial? What’s missing in your opinion? It’s announced, see kde-announce mailing list.
You are right. I was expecting a mail from Stephan Külow on the development lists.
Konstruct hasn’t even finished compiling RC1 which has been compiling for over 24 hours now… and RC2 is out already? Is there a diff out there between RC1 and RC2?
Osho
Is there a way to get some kind of Changelog?
> which has been compiling for over 24 hours now
meta/kde takes about 5 hours here
> … and RC2 is out already?
Did anyone of KDE ask you to test RC1? Don’t listen to OSnews.com. 🙂
> Is there a diff out there between RC1 and RC2?
There are xdelta files available on FTP.
> Is there a way to get some kind of Changelog?
Changes between what?
These KDE developers are totally infuriating! How dare they release another release canditate so soon after another! This is too much to deal with. I am going to using Microsoft XP where releases are few and far between so as not to upset my uneventful life
Seriously though, these guys are doing awesome work and I bid them the best of everything. At the pace they are making progress, Longhorn will be Lovelorned and playing catch up. Just my humble opinion. Go KDE!
Great news! All the best of luck to KDE!
First of all, I don’t like the default theme! And many, many Joe Braindeads, erm Joe Averages, don’t know how to change the theme! This is totally unacceptable! I demand that my taste is the taste everyone has to follow after!
Second, I don’t like that I still have to move my mouse. In the 25 years that I have used Lynux, I kind of expected it to finally be able to know where I want to move my mouse without my input. On the other hand, maybe Project Utopia finally brings relief to this absurd situation, it would be about time!
Third, even though I haven’t used KDE 3.x, there are still too many options, read: bloat. I don’t want those stupid moveable windows, this is just plain confusing! And who needs to be able to run multiple programs at once? All of this regularly makes my head explode, which is a damn shame, because I now have to find another place where I can put all the hay.
Unless this is fixed, I refuse to touch KDE and will stay with my trusted, featureful TWM or the totally unbloated Windows XP!
— A disgruntled Lynux user
lol, great post
I still don’t get the attachment to Keramik though. Every review or article I see about KDE mentions how they don’t like that theme, yet it always stays as default. One of the devs must really love that ugly theme or something.
I hear Plastik finally made it into the included themes though. That decision alone will same TONS of bandwidth on the mirrors.
Has anyone made KDE pretty yet? For some reason I just can’t bring myself to like the way it seems to use monstrous fonts by default and has bucket loads of space in menus on the right hand side of each item.
I really want to like KDE but there’s just far too much bloat in it (and I can’t be bothered with customising the menu). I’m going to stick with WindowMaker for now methinks.
Some of the stuff on KDElook is damned sexy though
The KDE people take their releases seriously, the default theme won’t change till a major version number bump, i.e. you’re going to have to wait till KDE 4.0.
Also there’s the fact that a whole bunch of screenshots on the website and the documentations, each of which is duplicated for every supported language, would have to be re-taken if they were to change the default theme.
Try downloading QtCurve. It looks a bit like Plastik, and is available in a single package for KDE and GTK. Makes for a nice looking desktop.
> Has anyone made KDE pretty yet?
> Some of the stuff on KDElook is damned sexy though
I think you haven given the answer yourself.
I’d suggest they take “Active Heart” as the default theme and windeco, or go for “Baghira”. Plastik is too dull. Other than that, KDE is great.
That is probably the best mock post I have read yet.
I aim to please. This site degrades into namecalling and angry shouting so easily, it is nice to see that some people still like satirical posts. :>
Also, if you like that one, then you should clearly read
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=7968&offset=135&rows=147#…
which I would link to if it would let me. Copy & Paste, I fear. :<
> I hear Plastik finally made it into the included themes though.
“Finally” as in KDE 3.2?
Ah,
by some of the stuff I mean the karamba stuff and some of the themes… None of the themes fix the most basic issues of huge menus and too much space in them.
It took so long to kde3.2 to come after 3.1, why is kde3.3 coming so soon?
Kinda funny that you think there’s too much space between menu items. Eugenia is always complaining that there is too little and the menus read like a sentence
Because the 3.2 development took too long. Because the life-cycle of Qt 4.x shall be joined at earliest possible time (and Qt 4 was once planned to be released this year).
I think it is because they wanted to get all of the kontact stuff in, and polish it before switching to 4.0 development. This way we will have a nice final release of the 3 series to use while we wait for 4.0 which will probably take a while due to all of the overhalling they want to do.
There is a difference between horizontal space between menubar items and used (vertical) space within menus.
Can anyone tell me what are the main changes from their experience? Is it faster? Is the annoying flickering gone yet or is that a Qt issue?
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.3-features.html
Yes folks, I think you are too harsh on good ol’ Keramik. Some aspects of it are fine. Others are overdone. I have a system running with Keramik window decorations (left justified), Plastik widget style elements, and a Redmond 2000 color scheme. The effect is quite striking, and attractive.
As an aside, this is one of the things I like about KDE, its granularity.
One of the things I really like about KDE 3.3 is the new theme manager. When you’ve got your Desktop just right, it’s a matter of saving the settings to a theme and then, no matter what havoc you wreak, you can always go back. I’ve got a dedicated plastic theme, a theme that mimics MacOS 9 and one that mimics CDE.
Yeah – that horribly annoying flickering in konqueror has finally been eradicated; it’s super smooth now.
For more info, check out:
http://robotics.dei.unipd.it/~koral/KDE/kflicker.html
Yeah, Konqueror in 3.3 is MUCH MUCH MUCH smoother than in 3.2.
Konqueror in 3.3 is a much much much improved than in 3.2 overall. I think it has benefited a great deal from all the Safari changes. All web pages that I visit are rendered very quickly and correctly. I hardly ever have a need to launch Firefox.
I can’t say the same thing about it’s handling of all the plugins yet though.
cheers,
Osho