Any sentence with the word “soon” in conjunction with something Amiga-related (Amiga, Pegasos, Genesi, Whatever) should be treated with a great level of suspicion. In Amigaland, time follows a different kind of physics than in the real world…
Mayby. But, otoh, we’ve heard news like ,,AmigaOS4 going gold”, ,,AmigaOS4-dev soon to be released”. Yet, there is still nothing Amiga-alike to run on AmigaOne aka Teron. And I bet people brought boards for AmigaOS4, and not for Linux.
The very soon means at least September, sooner mid-term means December, and if there are delays sooner means May next year.
Sorry to be that sceptic.
I did met Ben Hermans a couple of years ago on an Amiga Meeting Party here in the UK. They were demonstrating what they had done at the time, AmigaOS 4.0 PPC native was a text-console with some letters on the screen. They were saying that it would be completed in a few months… And they had been already working on the thing for a year and a half.
I’m not saying it is not going to be released, nor I’m criticising the OS quality.
Making an OS is not trivial, and when the number of developers is that small big delays are expected… In this case the word “soon” has to be handled with thongs.
I know Royal Mail is coming in for a lot of flak at the moment, but I think they can deliver the CDs to dealers before May next year.
There are photos of the packaging on Amigaworld.net aswell as screesnhots from those users lucky enough to be beta-testers. Yes, there’s been 10 years of false promises and it’s been frustrating, but this thing exists. Some users may be lucky enough to get it in the post before the end of the week.
I checked all of the walkthrough and this gives me a better idea of AmigaOS4. At least the installer seems quite solid. I look forward for more OSNews coverage on this OS.
There is more then a text-console yet, I could work on a AmigaOS 4.0-show with it. It’s great and what I saw was as stabile as any other operating system on the market. I think it will be released soon…
Ever see the sticker on those Peggy boards? $700+ for the board and CPU. I may as well buy an Opteron 148 and mobo. I’ll feel bad about not having new Amiga hardware.. after I get done smiling at the speed of UAE and the loviness of Amiga in a Box.
For people who didn’t read the material, or even look at the pictures…
Insert the AmigaOS4.0 Developer pre-release CD in your CDROM drive.
This is not a release of AOS4. It is not a release of AOS4 for developers. It is a PRE-RELEASE of AOS4 for developers. It gives programmers a chance to start to work on programs until the official developer release becomes available. This means that a consumer release of AOS4 is no less than a year to a year and a half away.
All I have to say it that Amiga users have much patience in waiting for AOS4… I can’t beleive that you guys just wait and wait again for this…
I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
MorphOS seem to be better in this case, at least you can buy it and it seem to work.
I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
At http://www.amiga.com/3.9/ it says 2001 so it’s a bit more than three years. And I don’t know… I think it takes to be an Amigan to really have that kind of patience, because there’s progress all the time. You can run AmigaOS 3.9 on your PC very fast with Amithlon or Amiga Forever, so it’s not like it’s gone.
Granted, development could move faster if more people were attached to the project (around 10-15 are there now, I think). Most of the OS is being recoded from the bottom up, a lot of the old stuff left over from the older systems were never documented properly, so it takes time to do this.
->I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
Yeah nobody waited AmigaOS for 10 years. As Henrik posted, AmigaOS3.9 was around and it is pretty much capable of doing anything you want. People actually waited 10 years for new hardware. If you search thorough Amiga software you will see that Amiga has any software that end consumer need. I’m not counting games though. It is basically similar to Linux community.
As with the AmigaOS I believe 3 years for a new OS version is fine, it is not late, if you compare it with microsoft, their new os will be around 2006 so it will be like 3-4 years after they released xp.
Let me give you a couple of examples, it is so responsive like QNX, even with 30-40 mhz machine you can see the difference between other OSses. True multitasking I believe is the best part. It boots in less than 10 secs. It doesnt take up 2gigs of space after clean install. It doesnt come with unnecessary things.
What makes Amiga really different than PC is the spirit at the moment. On the hardware side pcs are far superior.(though Amiga architecture was quite advanced).On the software side, Windows has all the software Amiga has and actually have better ones. All the special Amiga software(lightwave for ex) moved to windows platform so i can pretty much say Amiga doesnt have special at the moment. Though I can easily say Amiga community is much like Linux community. 2 good OSes without killer applications. I also believe that Amiga hardware is also special. Amiga always had the best shot-em-up type games, because it was so easy to scroll the screen using motorola cpus than Intel cpus.
I use Amiga because I’m born as an Amigan and my future goal includes Amiga.
The choice is like buying a car. Some cars are impractical, but owning one and driving puts a smile on your face that is more important than anything else. Classic cars have a community of enthusiasts who’ll go to rallies and whatnot. Probably most of them have another car to get them to work. You’d never question why someone wants to own a Mini or Beetle or MGB, but owning a minority computer platform like the Amiga seems totally confusing to some people…
excellent news
i’m gonna buy an amigaone/amigaos4 soon
I hope Shadow of the beast runs on it
If it runs in UAE it probably runs, but on the other side it runs on your wintel to.
Any sentence with the word “soon” in conjunction with something Amiga-related (Amiga, Pegasos, Genesi, Whatever) should be treated with a great level of suspicion. In Amigaland, time follows a different kind of physics than in the real world…
The dev version of AOS4 (that this tutorial is about) is indeed soon-to-be-released.
Mayby. But, otoh, we’ve heard news like ,,AmigaOS4 going gold”, ,,AmigaOS4-dev soon to be released”. Yet, there is still nothing Amiga-alike to run on AmigaOne aka Teron. And I bet people brought boards for AmigaOS4, and not for Linux.
> The dev version of AOS4 (that this tutorial is about) is
> indeed soon-to-be-released.
They are saying this since 2001.
> They are saying this since 2001.
Does it help to know that the CDs have been pressed and all that’s left is to put them in boxes and send them out to the dealers?
The very soon means at least September, sooner mid-term means December, and if there are delays sooner means May next year.
Sorry to be that sceptic.
I did met Ben Hermans a couple of years ago on an Amiga Meeting Party here in the UK. They were demonstrating what they had done at the time, AmigaOS 4.0 PPC native was a text-console with some letters on the screen. They were saying that it would be completed in a few months… And they had been already working on the thing for a year and a half.
I’m not saying it is not going to be released, nor I’m criticising the OS quality.
Making an OS is not trivial, and when the number of developers is that small big delays are expected… In this case the word “soon” has to be handled with thongs.
I know Royal Mail is coming in for a lot of flak at the moment, but I think they can deliver the CDs to dealers before May next year.
There are photos of the packaging on Amigaworld.net aswell as screesnhots from those users lucky enough to be beta-testers. Yes, there’s been 10 years of false promises and it’s been frustrating, but this thing exists. Some users may be lucky enough to get it in the post before the end of the week.
I checked all of the walkthrough and this gives me a better idea of AmigaOS4. At least the installer seems quite solid. I look forward for more OSNews coverage on this OS.
There is more then a text-console yet, I could work on a AmigaOS 4.0-show with it. It’s great and what I saw was as stabile as any other operating system on the market. I think it will be released soon…
Ever see the sticker on those Peggy boards? $700+ for the board and CPU. I may as well buy an Opteron 148 and mobo. I’ll feel bad about not having new Amiga hardware.. after I get done smiling at the speed of UAE and the loviness of Amiga in a Box.
$700 is for an AmigaOne board..
peggy board are :
G4/1000 EUR500 + VAT
G3/600 EUR300 + VAT
didn’t try AOS4 recently, but be assured than MorphOS on my G4/1000 is
hell faster than winUAE on Athlon XP 2800+
> but be assured that MorphoS on my G4/1000
> is hell faster than winUAE on Athlon XP 2800
Yes, I have to agree.
Believe it or not but the Peg2 is really,really fast.
My Vaio has a Pentium-M 1.7 Ghz CPU and 1 GB Ram.
I would call this a very fast Wintel Machine.
And UAE on this machine is really fast compared to
the 68060 machines.
I’m very happy that I bought a Pegasos because
MorphOS on Peg2 is much,much faster.
MorphOS flies and I have no doubt that AmigaOS 4
on AmigaONE will feel much faster and more fluend
than Windows on a 2-3 Ghz PC, too.
Cheers
Gunnar
For people who didn’t read the material, or even look at the pictures…
Insert the AmigaOS4.0 Developer pre-release CD in your CDROM drive.
This is not a release of AOS4. It is not a release of AOS4 for developers. It is a PRE-RELEASE of AOS4 for developers. It gives programmers a chance to start to work on programs until the official developer release becomes available. This means that a consumer release of AOS4 is no less than a year to a year and a half away.
All I have to say it that Amiga users have much patience in waiting for AOS4… I can’t beleive that you guys just wait and wait again for this…
I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
MorphOS seem to be better in this case, at least you can buy it and it seem to work.
I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
At http://www.amiga.com/3.9/ it says 2001 so it’s a bit more than three years. And I don’t know… I think it takes to be an Amigan to really have that kind of patience, because there’s progress all the time. You can run AmigaOS 3.9 on your PC very fast with Amithlon or Amiga Forever, so it’s not like it’s gone.
Granted, development could move faster if more people were attached to the project (around 10-15 are there now, I think). Most of the OS is being recoded from the bottom up, a lot of the old stuff left over from the older systems were never documented properly, so it takes time to do this.
->I’ve never own an Amiga, I will never understand the joy of using one. But I would be tired to wait for nothing, for vaporware or beta software… It’s been what? 10 years?
Yeah nobody waited AmigaOS for 10 years. As Henrik posted, AmigaOS3.9 was around and it is pretty much capable of doing anything you want. People actually waited 10 years for new hardware. If you search thorough Amiga software you will see that Amiga has any software that end consumer need. I’m not counting games though. It is basically similar to Linux community.
As with the AmigaOS I believe 3 years for a new OS version is fine, it is not late, if you compare it with microsoft, their new os will be around 2006 so it will be like 3-4 years after they released xp.
My question is : What motivate you to use AOS? What can you do with an Amiga that you would not be able to do with Linux or Windows XP?
What is the killer software on Amiga that keep you with this hardware & OS ?
“What is the killer software on Amiga that keep you with this hardware & OS ?”
This question has been asked and answered many times on OSNews. Check the archives.
you can check this link out for detailed information
http://www.basden.u-net.com/amiga/amiga.diffnt.html
Let me give you a couple of examples, it is so responsive like QNX, even with 30-40 mhz machine you can see the difference between other OSses. True multitasking I believe is the best part. It boots in less than 10 secs. It doesnt take up 2gigs of space after clean install. It doesnt come with unnecessary things.
What makes Amiga really different than PC is the spirit at the moment. On the hardware side pcs are far superior.(though Amiga architecture was quite advanced).On the software side, Windows has all the software Amiga has and actually have better ones. All the special Amiga software(lightwave for ex) moved to windows platform so i can pretty much say Amiga doesnt have special at the moment. Though I can easily say Amiga community is much like Linux community. 2 good OSes without killer applications. I also believe that Amiga hardware is also special. Amiga always had the best shot-em-up type games, because it was so easy to scroll the screen using motorola cpus than Intel cpus.
I use Amiga because I’m born as an Amigan and my future goal includes Amiga.
The choice is like buying a car. Some cars are impractical, but owning one and driving puts a smile on your face that is more important than anything else. Classic cars have a community of enthusiasts who’ll go to rallies and whatnot. Probably most of them have another car to get them to work. You’d never question why someone wants to own a Mini or Beetle or MGB, but owning a minority computer platform like the Amiga seems totally confusing to some people…