Mozilla.org released the latest Mozilla 0.9.8 Milestone. New to this release are improved Address Book functionality, page setup(for printing), MNG/JNG support, native-style widgets on Windows XP and MacOSX, dynamic theme switching, improved BiDi support, speed, stability and footprint improvements and more. This release also brings the first BeZilla version that it is actually… usable under BeOS. Two ex-Be engineers have contributed large chunks of code to the BeZilla team during the past month and massively optimized the BeOS version.
Mozilla 0.9.8 Released
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a 200% worse at dhtml.
Looking forward to it.
I guess it’ll Be a few days before it gets posted to Mozilla.org/releases
Probably by Friday!
ciao
yc
DHTML? Who cares about that buzzword. It was never good for anything. If you want dynamic, cross-browser content you’re better off with Java or Flash.
The OS X version is neat so far – startup is still slow, but rendering is notably faster. Can’t wait to try the BeOS version…
Look in the comments for the article on BeZilla. There is a temporary download location, until Mozilla.org gets around to posting this on their site. I sent the email to mozilla this morning, as I had the build ready sometime during the night last night!
-paul
there I go… and one site that doesnt show up correctly. That sucks. Its 0.9.8 and its broke on one of the first french site.
I love mozilla and i use it since m8 and its usable, but why do they have to break things time to time ?
It wont become my primary browser on this milestone…
I gotta try it; 0.97 for OSX is the fastest browser I have ever SEEN.
Try a valid site instead. Not a crappy one with badly written HTML. Valid sites show up correctly.
http://validator.w3.org/
Damn…..you can not even read the HTML!!!! I have never seen such a poorly formated page of HTML…..no consitency what so ever…unless you count messyness as a consistent feature :-p
Well it looks like there will be a good replacement web browser for Net+ afterall?! Though I did hear that the NetO guys are trying to make stride and incorporate Java so hopefully we will have a pick of the litter. And if all goes smoothly we should see a well rounded browser by the time OBOS R1 is released. Those guys seem to be making some progress over there!
First, as daK suggested, is the HTML for that site valid? Second, remember, this is version “0.9.8”, i.e. the leading zero means it is not even at an official release, yet.
I’m not trying to be rude, here, and I hope you don’t take it that way.
congratulations on the hard work you Mozilla and BeZilla guys have done.
it’s good to see that the months (years?) of hard work are starting to pay off. ignore the detractors – they obviuosly have never worked on a large scale project and don’t understand the real-world meaning of “Beta-software”. something which Microsoft confuses with “buggy software”.
cheers
peter
I have been playing around with it for just a few minutes, but at first sight this looks like a really good build. Performance is almost as good as on other platforms. I might actually switch to BeZilla as my main browser now!
I can’t thank all those involved in the BeZilla team enough.
so when you say native widgets, you mean it uses the OS widgets or has themes that mimic them???????
It uses OS widgets.
Of course it’s very unlikely, but I vote for native KDE widgets.
Plus, when will AA be added into the main tree?
The latest BeZilla build is available here: http://www.bezilla.org/downloads/mozilla-i586-pc-beos-0.9.8.zip . I just downloaded it, and like it *a lot*. Great work 🙂
…depending on the level of support in the GUI toolkit on each system
If the OS lets Mozilla draw local themed widgets and do its own backend, then that’s how Mozilla does it. Otherwise Mozilla examines some themed widgets, sucks out what it thinks is the essence (color, patterns, etc. it will vary by system) and uses that essence to make its own widgets look similar.
Mozilla itself won’t ever use pure native widgets. Most likely its impossible to match that feature set with native widgets unless you own the platform (IE on Windows, but even then a lot of those widgets just LOOK native)
Yes, this is essentially a hack, but it’s one that a lot of people apparently wanted. This is a community project, the community wanted native theming. C’est la vie.
I’m getting a blank, grey window in Windows XP. Typical, they implement XP features and I can’t even see them.
Guess I’ll try the nightlies for a while till they hopefully fix it.
This is the first build I have downloaded and tried. It’s Beautiful ! Great work Mozilla/BeZilla team. I can’t wait to explore the features. You people just added years to my BeOS addiction.
Thanks again,
Glidedon
P.S. I could not fill in the form to add my comment with BeZilla. ( used Net+ )
Could anyone name some of the benefits in the new BeOS release, such as rendertime ( someone already mentioned that’s better ), better widgets, working copy and paste, and not buggling net_server as far as BeShare?
Wow! 0.9.8 is really an awsome improvement over previous releases.
-URL entry box is now wicked fast.
-Pages load much faster even with heavy graphics
-E-mail, NewReader, Composer and Address book are all much faster as well and they work!
-Much more complete and stable
A must download for BeOS users.
Again many, many, many thanks to the Be folks involved in pulling this off!
ciao
yc
>Could anyone name some of the benefits in the new BeOS release,
>such as rendertime ( someone already mentioned that’s better ),
Yes it is. Do I have number? No.
>better widgets,
Widgets have not changed. All incarnations use native widgets for selects in html. This is buggy under BeOS, but, instead of fixing it, we are just waiting for Mozilla to implement select with XUL/XBL
>working copy and paste,
This has worked since I can remember
>and not buggling net_server as far as BeShare?
I have no idea first, what “buggling” means, and second, what BeShare has to do with Mozilla. Explain please?
-paul
Is anyone still working on the BeOS version of ‘stripzilla’ – was on BeBits; basically a browser-only version (no mail, news etc)
This is what I’d much prefer – haven’t tried the latest build yet, but not long ago I dl’d a nightly of bezilla and thought “wah, theres sure a lot of cr*p in here” – all I want is a clean, fast browser, not the swiss-army-knife of internet content retrieval…
BeShare (Muscle in general?) seems to be sensitive to a few obscure net_server changes that do not affect most other apps. Mozilla is one app that causes this type of thing.
ciao
yc
it is actualy a quick start up in windows!!!!!!
it is actualy comparable to IE now with out the turbo option selected!!!!!
Another question off the top of my head, if anyone in contact with the bezilla team knows, when do they plan to allow the use of other fonts, maybe even the nice BeOS font engine?
Fonts were working this past summer. Hmmm, just tried to change, and it seems to be broken! The fonts are listed in the pref dialog, but the change does not take affect! I’ll look into this!
This is a port by another developer. It is also a BONE only build. I (bezilla.org) do not have anything to do with that build. The reason I post full builds, is more for testing all of the internal code that encompesses mozilla. If we never built mail-news, and something in there exposed a bug, we would not know about it. And sorry, but I don’t have the time to produce multiple builds.
If you want, mozilla is REALLY easy to build, just follow the instructions on http://www.mozilla.org/ports/beos.
Scratch what I said earlier about the fonts. They do work. It seems, however, that something might have changed in the profile directory. Try renaming you /boot/home/config/settings/Mozilla directory, then rerunning. You should be able to set any font you want in the Fonts area under preferences. (I knew this was fixed a while ago
-paul
WOW! It’s quite usable now, on BeOS
))
Only i can’t get polish text encoding to work properly:
win-1250 works ok, but ISO-8859-2 doesn’t
keyboard shortcuts doesn’t work for me too (i have CTRL as menu button)
iit works on net_server
http://www.bezilla.org has been OSNews’ed!!
DaCh wrote: “Plus, when will AA be added into the main tree?”
hellooooo… that’s not for Mozilla to provide.. obviously you’re using Linux! :==) <— long nose for you!
Thanks for the bezilla team for a great working, smooth browser! Even the composer seems to be working.
The only problem I encountered was when I tried to check my e-mail, nothing happens. Should it be working or might the problem be that my school uses SSL? Mail daemon replacement doesn´t seem to have ssl support, so I still need windows/linux to check my e-mail.
Keep up the good work!
Cool, i’m d/ing the BeOS version now… hmm, to bad the ex-Be engineers can’t work on the open beos prohect… atlease i think they can’t…
As long as it is not forbiddin by their agreements. I suspect, and this speculation, they can work on shareware or contribution software, but not the core projects that will or do compete with BeOS and/or PalmOS. They can take their knowledge (and often do, anonymously) and contribute and distribute. I had a guy working for me once, real asshole Morman shithead and that took a TON of work and ideas that I came up with or had him contribute, and left and went publishing it as his, and/or giving it away. I had to threaten to sue him, and even then he still didn’t relent on his hell bent on being an asshole binge. So, even XBeOS guys can and will be Dicks 2 Palm. A phase I would not like to be in, or part of… I will not use the software as a result. Too bad, theives will always be theives.
Check the FAQ at bezilla.org for info about keyboard short-cuts
SSL is not working, YET, under BeZilla, so that could be a problem. Also, it seems some of the preferences may have changed, and you may need to wipe out your old Mozilla settings directory.
arougthopher -> thx for help, i’ll look there as soon as it will be back again (news about it made “Bandwidth Limit Exceede”
Yes. I cannot really express it. Its just great. Its fast, it works and its on BeOS.
Yep. I like that work so much…
Hmm. Yeah
Hopefully, I will be able to get bezilla.org up and running again. I “should” have more bandwidth allotted, than what was used so far. Otherwise, we’ll all have to wait till then end of the month! That would really suck! If need be, I could use my personal site to post anouncments until then. Sorry for the inconvenience.
One major hurdle to BeOS is gone! Wish I could import my old messages from my Outlook Express files. What does it take to make that import utility work?
Now, for a Java2 JDK clone…
and GoBe Productive 3…
I’m not sure about importing mail. Never tried it. As for Java, I’m looking into that, since I am a Java developer by trade and truly miss it under BeOS. Gobe … never happen.
Just looked at the source. Seems the outlook importer will only be enabled under Windows, as I think it has some windows specific code in it.
Thanks!
WOw its much faster now, are you on you´re own now aroughthopher?
OR will the 2 ex Be people continue to help you?
Many thanks to the Bezilla team…
/Konrad
BeShare is most important BeOS soft – heart of BeOS community.
It is really sad if BeZilla kills BeShare
Meadows: It doesn’t. At least not on my system.
Thanks to the BeZilla team!! 0.9.8 really rocks! It’s the first version that is usable for me. Quite stable and really fast even on my old 400mhz notebook.
Phantastic!!
First, all of this talk should probably be taken to the bezilla.org forums.
No, I am not alone. I hear from different people occasionally that express interest, and yes, the ex-Be engineers are still with the project, Thank god …
I have never had any problems with BeShare and Mozilla. If you do, start up a discussion at a bezilla.org forum.
-paul