The GNOME Development Series Snapshot 2.3.0 “Mighty Atom”, is ready for your bug-busting and testing. A few new modules were added to this dev beta of Gnome for testing: battfink (energy saving and battery tool), fontilus, galeon, gcalctool, gnome-mag (desktop magnification tool), gok (‘GNOME On-screen Keyboard’, an accessibility tool), gpdf, gucharmap (unicode character map tool), nautilus-cd-burner, themus (theme management), zenity.
GNOME Development Series Snapshot 2.3.0: “Mighty Atom”
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Eugenia Loli
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This guys are cooking it really fast hope to test RC soon on my sweet Gentoo.
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…when are they going to fix the basics? They always keep saying “ahh, too bad, that feature didn’t make it in time for feature freeze”, I sure hope they’ll start from the bottom of their buglist and implement the damn desktop icon alignment code, naming one of over 100 old feature enhancements that they keep postponing for no apparent reason.
Not saying it’s super easy to implement, and if I knew C i’d surely help out, but to me new stuff doesn’t belong in Gnome until they’ve fixed their base stuff.
They have been fixing the basic stuff. If you look at the Nautilus 2.2.3.1 changelog you will see all the little improvements to stuff like singe click mode in list view which was previously unusable.
Better get my arse in gear and get more work done on the Irish translation, however i’ve got my final year exams in 3 weeks so it have ta wait doh!
Any idea if Nautilus CD burn support multiple sessions yet?
The Gnome project has been making pretty good time on releases since 2.0 came out a while back… I remember they wer on 1.4 for (what felt like) a really long time.
Totally agree… stuff like that has been bugging me since 2.0… I so hate when I have to manually TRY to align my icons on the desktop.
They should make them “Snap to Grid” like in XP so you don’t have to even bother clicking a menu option to align them for you.
Find out for yourself:
http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/rview.cgi?cvsroot=/cvs/gnome
/me wonders what ever happened to ximian desktop 2.0……….
When reading this article summary, my blurry vision caused me to misread “GNOME On-screen Keyboard” and “nautilus-cd-burner” as screen butter! Now THAT’S what I’m talking about! GNOME needs this new feature.
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Is on it’s way. I think it’s planned for mid-summer and from what i’ve read on the net will have a gtk version of Openoffice as well as gtk-2 version of Evolution
>…when are they going to fix the basics?
OK it’s great to make such an announcement, but why the hell little stuffs that make desktoping easier take so much time to be implemented on free-desktops. For instance we have a desktop icon only since Gnome 2.x. The same things has been implemented since ages on Windows (maybe since 95 or 98). It’s all the same with File managers, for me Konqueror and Nautilus are just too heavy for my needs, have too really too much features. Why don’t they grant us with small humble tools first that work and work fast and fix the basics first ? No wonder Linux is still behind.
OK it’s great to make such an announcement, but why the hell little stuffs that make desktoping easier take so much time to be implemented on free-desktops. For instance we have a desktop icon only since Gnome 2.x. The same things has been implemented since ages on Windows (maybe since 95 or 98). It’s all the same with File managers, for me Konqueror and Nautilus are just too heavy for my needs, have too really too much features. Why don’t they grant us with small humble tools first that work and work fast and fix the basics first ? No wonder Linux is still behind.
This is what I don’t understand from the “Linux isn’t ready for prime time” crowd. On one hand, you say we need to make “big strides” in order to catch up with Windows, and on the other you say “it’s the little things.” Meanwhile intelligent hardworking, sometimes unpaid workers are hacking away doing both. It took the Linux kernel about ten years to get mature enough for widespread use. The desktop will be there moch sooner, I think. Take a look at the latest GNOME, it’s almost there. GNOME will be easy enough for newbies to learn, and it will make Linux a system that anyone can use, not just advernurous Windows experts. I continually file bug reports and do my part as an end user to make this end a reality. Even Eugenia wouldn’t knock GNOME’s HIG and efforts to make a consistent, simple ui experience.
(PS, Eugenia, can you mod down my other post? My finishing [i] tag lacked a “/”. I’m sorry and I won’t let it happen again)
“Is on it’s way. I think it’s planned for mid-summer and from what i’ve read on the net will have a gtk version of Openoffice as well as gtk-2 version of Evolution”
Openoffice will not be gtk2 but will have it’s look and feel. They are changing icons, colors, startup screen etc.
…come the apps to bring us closer to the 2.4 we’re all anticipating in the future….Go Gnome
IMO, the big strides that Linux needs to make *are* all the little things. The basic interface is not bad, but there are all these little…inconveniences. The Desktop Linux crowd shouldn’t just be aiming for “users won’t be too annoyed”–they should try to provide an overall more pleasant, less buggy experience, and that means sweating the small stuff. It’s also why I run an OSX iBook, instead of a cheaper PC laptop with Linux. Say what you will about Steve (and I say a lot) but he’s big on attention to detail
KOMPRESSOR
Did I hear galeon? Yay Galeon!!! *woohoo*
If they’ve fixed the damn open/save file dialog box ?
When people would talk about it on here (before I saw it), I was like … eh, what’s the big deal? Then I saw it, and I’m like “Oh my GAWD!!!”
Hopefully they’ve worked on it.
That’s how the new fileselector looks like.
http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/Screenshot-Testfileselector.png
When is Gnome going to have those crazy bad ass fonts like KDE? Don’t get me wrong… Gnome’s look is dank, but KDE’s fonts are soooooo crystal clear! Am I missing something?
Did I say dank? I meant dansk.
While not as good as the KDE file selector, it’s certainly an improvement over the old one.
>That’s how the new fileselector looks like.
No, that is not the design that it is worked on GTK+ today AFAIK. That design is old, it was just a suggestion. Owen Taylor from Red Hat is working on it and it is not like that.
kde, better fonts? It took longer for the kde team to get the xft font rendering going. XFT font rendering has been in gnome since 2.1.0 and it’s insanely beautiful with the bitstream fonts, freetype-2.1.4, and of course 3,000 extra ttf to add into the mix from my personal collection.
Karl
This is the Fileselector from the LibEGG code and contains GNOME parts and from what I was told it should been plugin able if I’m not mistaken. So yes this is probably not the one that goes into GTK+ but most likely for GNOME itself. The GTK+ one may look differently. It’s always hard bringing code which depends on GNOME on a GTK+ only level. But so far this is the one for GNOME otherwise working on it makes no sense.
The author Keith Packard supported KDE as first with XFT.
I’m excited to see the new development GNOME release, but I frankly don’t know what most of those components are. You think they could pick understandable names. IMHO, software names starting with “G” and “K” should be banned on Linux, just like programs named “WinFoo” should be banned on Windows. Totally unhelpful to the user.
If you’re distro uses Xft2/Fontconfig, the fonts will be the same no matter what distro you use. KDE and GNOME (as well as other FontConfig enabled applications like Mozilla/Gtk) should have identical fonts. If that is not the case, then your distro has a configuration problem, and you should yell at them by filing a strongly worded bug report
fontilus adds a font view to nautilus, gcalctool is a far better calculator, nautilus-cd-burner is a neat tool for writing CDs (open nautilus, send the files you want burnt to burn:/// , then run nautilus-cd-burner – works great).
I must admit, gcalctool is a really cool calculator. Hope the final GNOME 2.4 will remove redundant tools such as gnome-calc and the old charmap viewer. The alternatives are far better and removing the old ones will also reduce maintainance in GNOME.
Does this new version come with a menu editor?
I’ve recently tested gnome2.2.1 and couldn’t find a way to easily add an item to the main menu, not even dragging items from the desktop.
I was told (on irc) to open nautilus and put “applications:///” on the location bar. I would have never imagine it was supposed to be done that way. However I was unable to add my items from nautilus, it was pretty confusing.
After I restarted my session the items I had added appeared on the main menu. Again I was told that I had to restart the gnome-panel so that changes would take effect.
It is too complicate in my opinion to add a simple item to the main menu. I hope this will be fixed in the up coming versions.
So is the new file selector included with this latest release?
right click on a menu entry (not a folder).
Well from what I know GNOME 2.4 will be based on GTK+ 2.2 because of the timeshifted development process. That means – NO – new fileselector in GTK+ with GNOME 2.4.
But maybe they gonna decide to switch to GTK+ 2.4 if it’s done in last minute then chances are good to get a new GTK+ FileSelector. Dunno if GNOME 2.4 will get a new FileSelector itself (GNOME dependant) but chances are that it won’t. Maybe GNOME 2.6/2.8.
This is what I read and heard so no guarantee.
no, it would come w/ a new release of GTK
Actually, from what I understand, you’ll be able to rebuild gtk 2.4 after gnome 2.4 is out and the file selector will be the new one automagically, since gnome just asks gtk to pop up a file selector, and doesn’t ask questions until a file is chosen.
GTK+ FileSelector != GNOME FileSelector (in this case the one from LibEGG) showing mimes and GNOME related icon themes is GNOME related and not GTK+
Eugenia,
I’m just curious, do you use AA fonts in XP? I’ve noticed quite a few XP machines that don’t use AA. AA slows down the inerface considerably.
Also, I also found this:
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All the text processing utilities, grep, awk, sort, etc all work significantly slower when using the Unicode UTF locale. To speed the bootup, in the /etc/rc.sysinit and other SysV scripts, because the configuration is using 7bit ASCII these utilities are now invoked with LC_ALL=C utility to force the C locale.
\ [http://www.gurulabs.com/RedHatLinux9-review.html]
Yeah, I just bitched about this one too on bugzilla.
Ooops, that wasn’t for this list. Sorry…
Go GNOME. I hope they will make GNOME feel faster than KDE. I mean the desktop switcher is slow, and general menu drawing is not very fast. Beside these two things GNOME looks better and simplier than KDE.
Once they make it more responsive I am a convert.
fontilus – i can live without it
gpdf – still misses things that acrobat reader can render, as well as password protected pdf files.
nautilus-cd-burner – no please not another crappy bonobo implementation that has its menu in a right click menu :/
can nautilus-cd-burner erase rewriteable disks? burn another session? burn vcds? i am sure not, its just like gnome2 a big ugly hack in your face
uhm, if its the gtk-file-selector, where does it know from what icon theme is used? as gnome introduces so much things based around gconf, kde users are pretty pissed – not being able to modify the look and feel of gtk-2.x apps without gnome-settings-daemon being started, which itself messes with the background picture and kicks konqueror out of the way! imagine kinit doing the same to gnome… so please kick some maintainer to fix this ASAP, its all about freedom of choice isnt it ?
It’s all the same with File managers, for me Konqueror and Nautilus are just too heavy for my needs, have too really too much features.
So umm…. Use another one? ROX-Filer http://rox.sf.net/ has the features I want while dispensing with bloat, and is GTK2, so looks good with other GTK2 apps. There’s a file manager that comes with XFCE, and XFCE4 is GTK2-based, so looks good with other GTK2 apps.
(Note, though, that ROX-Filer doesn’t put a folder onto the desktop; you get a bunch of launchers/shortcuts. This is either good or bad, depending on who you are and what you like. Nor does ROX come with a trashcan, but you can get one.)
Here’s how you edit menus in GNOME: rightclick on a menu item, and another menu pops up! It allows you to add/remove/edit menu items. This feature has been there since panel 2.0.something!
– Adding menu items: Rightclick on menu item, choose Entire Menu->Add new item to this menu
– Removing menu items: Rightclick on menu item, choose Remove this item.
– Edit menu items: Rightclick on menu item, choose Properties.
Why can’t anybody find this? It’s been there for months.