Microsoft aims to entice solution providers to develop applications for Pocket PCs and Smartphones using its .Net Compact Framework, said Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates last week. “The sky is the limit,” Gates said in his keynote address at the first U.S. Microsoft Mobility Developer conference, held here in tandem with the CTIA expo.
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“We’re just getting the last infrastructure for the Pocket PC environment running, and now they’re going to jump to a whole new infrastructure,” Pizzarro said. “The Pocket PC OS, as it is, is just painfully unfriendly.”
i’m attending it, and i hope mickey mouse will talk less crap than the ms speakers
Finally
we will vave some BSOD’s on Pocket PCs and Smartphones
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can’t wait 4 the 1st Pocket PC / Smartphone BSOD ScreenShot =]
Except for the fact that M$ actually has competition, and like everything else it trys to expand into (except for it’s roots in x86 Desktop Boxes) – It’s doomed to fail.
‘gg’
While Microsoft is far from owning the PDA market, it’s clear that .NET Compact has beaten J2ME to the punch. Despite the high levels of anti-Microsoft sentiment exhibited in previous posts, I think everyone should take a look at .NET Compact and its potential ramifications in the realm of mobile software development.
…is an excellent technology that MS should be proud of. Developing for the pocket pc will now be easier than ever.
I just hope people don’t avoid the technology just because it’s MS. I’v ebeen developing with .Net for a while now and I have to say its cleanliness, efficiency and ease of use is a great welcome
I had my 2nd blue screen of death on win xp last week. I was running a demo downloaded from scene.org and it crashed half way through and BSOD. It rebooted and it has never been the same since. Everytime I boot up it tells me there has been a serious fault and the (Microsoft signed) display driver is the reason. It BSOD now every so often when I use cygwin/XFree to remote to my linux box.
Unstable piece of crap.
Ever considered it is cygwin/Xfree that is giving the BSOD? Well, if XFree86 could give a the Linux kernel a kernel panic for me once, I’m sure they can do it everywhere. What is clear to me is that you installed software and the problem came to you ever since. Consider using System Restore.
Meanwhile, what does Windows XP have to do with the topic? If I brought up a unrelated Solaris problem is a thread about Sparc, do you think people would call me off topic?
You are right of course. I am OT. I was just pointing out that apps running on WinXP are not supposed to bring down the whole system, jsut crash the app itself. People say they have never seen a BSOD on WinXP yet I have seen at least one on each of the 2 laptops and 2 desktops I have installed it on.
Just like on Linux, some apps *can* bring Windows down. No one denies that – get applications that is built for Windows, or better still, built for Windows XP next time. But looking back, I think the problem is between XFree86 and your display device driver. Something went wrong there for sure.
Except that it first happened with a Demo from scene.org.
BTW, Linux has *never* gone down for me. Even when I think it has crashed, I can still telnet in and kill the x server.
I just hope people don’t avoid the technology just because it’s MS. I’v ebeen developing with .Net for a while now and I have to say its cleanliness, efficiency and ease of use is a great welcome.
I have to agree with you that .NET (well, using C# to write .NET applications anyway, C++, ASP and VB .NET suck) is quite nice. Extremely nice in fact.
The problem I have is with the whole PocketPC thing. I hate PocketPC. It has the most unusable and retarded look and feel for a PDA, or any other small device, that has ever been conceived. PocketPC proves that the Windows “Start” button and desktop motif are not the ideal way to do things across all devices.
This discussion is totally off topic, but don’t go blaming other apps for Windows stability issues. I have personally experienced Windows crashes with nothing more installed than Windows itself. I have also experienced them with only Windows XP and Office XP installed. Windows is getting better than it used to be (well, it peaked at Windows 2000), but to say that it is as stable as something like Linux is just plain wrong (unless, of course, you are running Nautilus on anything other than Gentoo and Slackware, where it actually appears quite stable).
In this instance, I would agree that Cygwin is probably the problem, since it is the problem in so many other instances, but it is not by any means the sole problem that Windows has.
Err? How, J2ME (MIDP 1) is out, and MIDP 2 is actually quite good, and already has devices planned by Nokia.
.NET currently has no deives out in the wild.
Hmm, thats about right. I reverted back to Win2k because XP is a piece of junk that BSOD’d every chance it gets. Win2k has yet to BSOD. Maybe “longhorn” will truely allow just the application to crash and not the whole OS, but then again, that’s just wishing, as we all know microsoft. lol.
War is not a game. Bush and Saddam are happyly sitting in their sofa watching TV, while Civilians keep dying:
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2003/3/3-22-26.htm
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesE/irqgirl.jpg
Censored version from US/UK media:
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror/mar2003/1/6/000B23D1-57E5-…
You would think this is not the place to post that. But the war, and the people dying there are more important than a fucking computer article.
You would think this is not the place to post that. But the war, and the people dying there are more important than a fucking computer article
So go somewbere besides a fucking computer site, and go fucking discuss there with people who fucking care. This a fucking computer site and fucking computer issues will be discussed here whether you fucking like or fucking not, or think something else is more fucking important.
“War is not a game. Bush and Saddam are happyly sitting in their sofa watching TV, while Civilians keep dying:
http:// http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2003/3/3-22-26.htm
http://www.rense.com /1.imagesE/irqgirl.jpg
Censored version from US/UK media:
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror /mar2003/1/6/000B23D1-57E5-…
You would think this is not the place to post that. But the war, and the people dying there are more important than a fucking computer article.”
Where are the links for the US prisoners shot in the head, execution style? Fuck off.
Fuck, some fucking people fucking need to fucking learn how to fucking talk. What are you? like 13 and just learned how to swear? We’re all REALLY impressed.
You want US prisoners:
http://www.minghia.net
They were not executed. The died in combat. I don’t care as much about soldiers. When they become soldiers they know they are exposed to death.
What fucking right do we have to bomb somebody else’s house?
Where is Eugenia when we really need her? Say something about her and – flush! modded down. But this crap is allowed to float in the bowl.
I am glad people can speak what they believe or think here.
But that does not mean you are not a liar if you try to speak for a well-known liar.
You can pretend do not know the existince of huge number of Errors/Bugs while boasting, but you can not
notice other people they are already in heaven and have been saved.
You maybe be unhonest to others, but please be honest to yourself, include your eyes.
winxp is the best desktop OS microsoft has ever made. if u think otherwise you either haven’t given xp a chance or u are lying to urself. u should stop running your mouth on osnews, get a job and buy new computer from dell. they are very cheap now, $430 will get u a nice 2.53ghz p4 system from dell. it will run 100% silent which is more than you can say for any 2.53ghz computer u build yourself that costs $430
ppl keep saying 2k is better. well maybe, if u have old hardware that’s not supported by xp. that is all it comes down to ppl, is your hardware. if u run xp on a “Designed for Windows XP” system like I do, it is 100% stable. if u run it on crappy “I built this computer myself with AMD processor generic ram and VIA or SIS chipset” well obviously u will have problems because those companies write crappy drivers.
winxp has so many features that 2k does not, like theme engine, which is very cool. luna look is beautiful and functional, unlike ugly eyecandy os like OS X or red hat bluecurve, which is just bad copies of luna.
I have never ever seen winxp crash or BSoD. why? because I have good hardware. I have Intel processor with Intel chipset in my Dell, and Intel knows how to write drivers, unlike crappy VIA. all I can say is if your computer BSoDs in winxp you have only yourself to blame, not microsoft. millions of people are using winxp without problems. If you have problems, it’s because you cheaped out and bot crappy hardware.
two winxp features I forgot to mention were cleartype, which makes text beautiful on lcds, much better than anything else out there. I hate using 2k now, because text is all jagged, especially on lcds.
there is also terminal server, which is light years ahead of x-windows. it is very very fast, and does entire desktop instead of just one program.
why anyone would stick with 2k is beyond me, I guess they just bot crappy hardware
It certainly has a lot to do with hardware, but just to try to balance this out a little: I’ve run every version of windows on all manner of hardwware. I’ve seen XP blue screen many, many times. Not all the time, it’s reasonably stable, no more so than windows 2000 sp3 though. Even on good hardware, a $4k dell laptop, a $8k dell precision workstation. Drivers are not the only cause of system crashes.
I’ve had XP on a “Made for XP” dell box crash on me. P4 2Ghz, intel chipset etc.. I’ve had that box misbehave quite a bit. But yes, a lot of crashes come from cheap hardware. BTW, you dont write drivers for RAM and stuff like that. It’s just htere, and gets used.
What i dont like though, is that whenever a linux fan says “linux is rock stable on quality hardware” people shoot that person down saying “well la-dee-da, it should support it all! and be perfect!” You get what you pay for when it comes to hardware. Too cheap to spend that extra 15$ for good RAM? Suffer.
What still pisses me off with WinXP is how reboots are still the way to fix most issues. Why?? I HATE it when i cant do something (such as dial up onto the net) with a box, i try everything, check the settings, all is fine. Just doesnt work. Reboot the box, all is well.
rowel:
Umm… ya… I want XP bloat.. mmhmm, how low is your IQ? WinXP isnt even close to the “best desktop OS ever made”. That just proved your nothing but a troll, thus your comments are worth less then dirt.
I could say something about your personality, but you already proven how bad that is.
As for the “a computer built by you is louder then dell’s”, one of these days, you will need to learn how to read, and *gasp* learn how to build computers. Your just another troll that need to be dealt with.
XP, is all that comes down is your hardware. Another BS statement, just keep it up, your digging yourself into a deeper hole.. If your married, I feel sorry for your wife…. or husband, which ever way you swing.
AMD is crap? Wow, what rock have you been living under? Or was you born yesterday? As mentioned before, try learning how to read, it might save your life someday.
However, we wouldnt want that, now would we?
XP has nice features like a theme engine? Wow, your a bright one, here, let me light your cigar. If I wanted bloat, I would get XP, of course people can still turn off that horrendous “theme engine”, and XP would still use more system resources then Win2k, not to mention the hard drive space it wastes.
If WindowsXP BSOD’s its either due to the OS (yes, it’s possible, you microcrap scum), or due to badly written drivers, which even happens to Intel (suprise? get your head out of your butt).
If you think it’s because of cheap hardware/software then you are of that 95% that should not be around computers, let alone to breath.
XP is good for eyecandy, that’s about it. If computer resources something you are watching closely, get rid of it.
If it is beyond you to know why people stick with win2k, then you are definately in the wrong business. Try actually working with computers, then you may see.. if you can comprehend.
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I run win2k due to obvious stability, and less resource hungry then WinXP. It’s plain and simple. I do all of my development on this system and it works with all versions (95 and up) of Windows. Guess what? When you create programs on winXP, most of the time it will not run on Win2k and below, only for XP.. weird, this only happens on apps that use winsock, and I dont know if microshaft has gotten around to fixing that bug it yet.
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As for the theory of you get what you paid for, it’s no longer true. I buy my hardware at a premium, why? Because at least with Hardware, you get what you pay for. For software, that is not the case. Microsoft made sure of that with their Windows OS. However, I still cannot speak for Longhorn. IF you get what you paid for then WindowsXP/2k/98 should be between $30 – $50 for the full version. Now if Longhorn is not riddled with bugs and actually does what MS advertises, then it would definately be worth $100+. Until then, that theory does not stand.
I think RedHat is the best desktop OS at the moment. I used to think Windows 2000 until I got a new computer and X Win stopped being so slow.
RH detected all my hardware out of the box, Scanner, Webcam, Printer, everything. I am really impressed, as even with XP, I have to trail the net for drivers for the cheapo crappy peripherals I buy.
Red Hat? I will definately have to look into it. Would you believe it? I have not used any Linux based OSes. Maybe I should? I need to get into some cross-platform development and do now know which distro of Linux I should use.. Any suggestions? I’ll be doing a cross with .NET (which is supported in BSD, Linux, Windows, and MacOSX), and Delphi/Kylix (everything under the moon:) ).