Macminute reports: Terra Soft Solutions today announced Yellow Dog Linux 3.0, a new version of its Red Hat and RPM-based operating system for PowerPC computers. Version 3.0 offers a completely rebuilt Installer, 1300 packages on 6 CDs (3 Install, 3 Source), a unified KDE and GNOME desktop environment featuring shared menus, applications, and user interface.The company also announced the launch of YDL.Net Enhanced, an extension to the Yellow Dog Linux online community. For US$5 per month, YDL.Net Enhanced members receive: personal webspace at members.ydl.net, FTP access to 10MB storage, direct access to Yellow Dog Linux ISOs, and direct access to Yellow Dog Linux errata. Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 is immediately available from the private YDL.net Enhanced server (3 Install ISOs, 3 source ISOs) with the shipping product slated for the week of April 16.
First of all, congrats to TerraSoft! They’re doing a great job for Linux/PPC and all MacPPC alternative OSes.
In terms of packages, looks like a Rawhide drop, although only when they release the ISOs to the public we can see it. Anyway, it’s cool to see commercial Linux/PPC distros alive and kicking.
It looks like a direct port of RedHat 8 to PPC. That’s good in that it will be source compatable with the most programs.
Can APT-RPM work with source based instalation and compile automagically for any CPU?
This distro is looking good! I have YDL 3.2 and it looks like they’ve been working hard (thank God there’s a new installer!). I’ll have to get it, I can’t resist!
Omer, YDL has apt, but i don’t know about 3.0…they have made some big changes.
For all the criticism Rehat has gotten, it seems more developers are following in its footsteps. Redhat is now the innovator in Linuxland and the rest are all followers. It does seem like they did a direct port of Redhat 8.0 though. Evrything from Anaconda to Bluecurve.
Or maybe with new stuff. But damn, its just Redhat 8 still
Well, YDL was always that (using the red hat codebase that is), this is no news.
However, I will agree on the other half of your assesement about “Redhat is now the innovator in Linuxland and the rest are all followers.”. While I won’t go as far as calling them ‘innovators’, they are indeed the leading power in the Linux land today, and indeed the rest of the distros are following their footsteps (e.g. Mandrake with their new Galaxy theme which also makes KDE and Gnome look the same), simply because it makes sense to do so for a company..
I was going to say the exact same thing as Eugenia. I don’t want to start a war here in this thread, but I sincerely believe what Red Hat has done is precisely what the corporate world is looking for regarding Linux. The business world hates uncertainty, hates things that don’t seem to be resolved, etc. It wants uniformity and uniformity that’s executed well.
I am glad to see it released, I hope YDL didnt follow in Red Hats footsteps and butchered QT, I guess I will find out when I get it. YDL is my favorite PPC distro tho
There is no butchered Qt on Red Hat. There was an early bug that was creating some incompatibilities but that was long fixed. I have compiled a number of KDE and Qt apps on RH 8 and RH 8.1 and they all compiled and ran as expected.
any word when they are going to make the 3.0 ISO’s available to the public?
Straight from YDL’s site:
“A complete port of Red Hat’s RPM-based operating system, Yellow Dog Linux is for the home user who desires to breathe life into old hardware, the business person who silently demands a Microsoft-free desktop, and developer’s or admin’s dream come true. ”
See?
Course, I have no clue why someone would want to use hacked-together Linux as opposed to FreeBSD based Mac OS X. But hey, that’s just me. And yes, I am an ex-Linux user; SuSe to be exact.
I can’t say I ever understood why people bought Macs anyway if not just for the pretty case.
Installing linux on one does seem a waste of a lot of money for the new models, but I can certainly see why using YDL on an old machine pre-G3 would be beneficial.
If I understand it correctly, does MacOnLinux launch MacOSX directly from its partition as if it was starting up on this machine normally as a default OS?
MacOnLinux is a cool program. But I wonder, is there such a that would do WindowsOnLinux, or possibly LinuxOnWindows?
I’d much rather use something like WindowsOnLinux instead of things like VirtualPC or VMware.
By the way I love their logo.
I have been using Yellow Dog for a while now. With APT I haven’t had any problems with dependencies. It is a lot faster on my iBook than OS X. Yet I have another iBook at work with Fink installed and it’s quite good also, but it doesn’t compare with Yelloe Dog. The best I have tried on an iBook so far was Gentoo, which had even Debian beat. But for any one of these options, you will need Modem drivers because Apple has crap soft modems in the iBooks.
From what I have seen on the XFree86 site, Matrox G550 PowerPC driver support has been completed, meaning, if you have a matrox card it should work with the PowerPC ATX kit YellowDogLinux is selling.
For all the criticism Rehat has gotten, it seems more developers are following in its footsteps.
I don’t know about this one. Just take a look at the number of new and relatively new distributions and you’ll see that hardly anyone chooses Red Hat as their base any more. I am talking about Xandors, Lindows, Yoper, CollegeLinux, Gentoo etc. The only new distro that is RH-based is Ark, but that’s perhaps because it was started by an ex-RH employee.
Yellow Dog has been around for many years and back in those days, just about everybody based “their” distro on Red Hat. I would argue that the trend is in fact to move away from Red Hat and do things differently. But it’s also possible that developers make more effort in order to not have their products labeled as JARHC (Just Another Red Hat Clone).
All in all, I would disagree that “more and more” developers are following in RH footsteps. The old dogs (pun intended) do, but the new ones often look elsewhere.
I don’t own a ppc system but I would never run YDL, because I refuse to support its homosexual creator, dan bercaw. I don’t have anything against homosexuals in general, I would just perfer not to run os made by them. If u have something against homosexual programmers, don’t run YDL because its creator is gay. Also don’t run sendmail because its creator is also gay.
You should run Windows, because Bill Gates is not a homosexual!
> Course, I have no clue why someone would want to use
> hacked-together Linux as opposed to FreeBSD based Mac OS X.
Because it is (will be) for free?
I don’t own a ppc system but I would never run YDL, because I refuse to support its homosexual creator, dan bercaw. I don’t have anything against homosexuals in general, I would just perfer not to run os made by them. If u have something against homosexual programmers, don’t run YDL because its creator is gay. Also don’t run sendmail because its creator is also gay.
You should run Windows, because Bill Gates is not a homosexual!
but bill gates is us citizens and us started an illegal war against irak… 😉
Squidgee: Course, I have no clue why someone would want to use hacked-together Linux as opposed to FreeBSD based Mac OS X.
Hm. Linux is kinda faster than OS X on Macs. Apple is catching up, but not quite.
Paul Wolfe: any word when they are going to make the 3.0 ISO’s available to the public?
There’s a lag between the availability of the distro on retail/online stores/YDL.net members and the availability of ISO. For the 3.0, it looks like 2-4 weeks, but better check TerraSoft’s announcement.
John Blink: If I understand it correctly, does MacOnLinux launch MacOSX directly from its partition as if it was starting up on this machine normally as a default OS?
Or, if you want, on a virtual disk.
MOL is a cool little piece of software. It’s a great VM program.
Xi, there are some people who do not like Mac OS X, I happen to be one that uses YDL, I have it on a G4 Dual Processor 450 mhz. I bought that machine to try OS X because I was a long time NeXTStep user, I didnt like OS X and I didnt want the machine to go to waste so I bought Linux for the Mac, YDL 2.2 to be exact. It runs great, faster than OS X with all the linux goodness you can imagine…
” I don’t own a ppc system but I would never run YDL, because I refuse to support its homosexual creator, dan bercaw. I don’t have anything against homosexuals in general, I would just perfer not to run os made by them. If u have something against homosexual programmers, don’t run YDL because its creator is gay. Also don’t run sendmail because its creator is also gay.
You should run Windows, because Bill Gates is not a homosexual! ”
Dude you are way out of line, who cares if he is gay or not. He is a brilliant guy. Save the gay bashing and the homophobia for someone who cares what you have to say. On each release the YDL team makes sure everything works and that its a rock solid release, unlike some x86 Distros who just do a release, just to do one. With YDL their release schedule is when the thing works. As for Dan being homosexual, who really cares. Guys like you do nothing but promote ignorance. No I am not gay but I dont have a problem with anyone that is, its their lifestyle, they dont criticize mine, so why would I criticize theirs?
<<You should run Windows, because Bill Gates is not a homosexual!>>
OK…, I will answer this flame bait!
In other words, you would rather use an OS developed by a criminal, back-stabbing, monopolistic, megalomanic, lying, thieving, immoral, a-moral, organization…. than risk submitting to your latent tendencies. Remember that Eugenia is a woman. Therefore, if you use Windows, you will shortly (in all senses of the word) need a sexchange operation. I wiss you well. I hope everything “comes off” well.
thanks to YDL 2.3, i turned my old trusty 6500/250 into a good machine; my concern is speed, the pre-compiled pkg tend to run slow on older hardware, has some of this been improved in 3.0 (though i shouldnt expect a big speed boost on a 6500!)?
Roberto J Dohnert was educated stupid and said:
“Dude you are way out of line, who cares if he is gay or not. He is a brilliant guy.”
dan bercaw a “brilliant” guy? hahaha, that’s great, since when does recompiling redhat sources to PPC make one “brilliant”? dan “slice” bercaw is one of the most arrogant, egotistical pricks i’ve ever met and is one of the worst excuses for a programmer i’ve ever seen.
brilliant describes people like steve wozniak or linus torvalds, not a freakin’ wanker who works on one of the shittiest ppc linux distros there is and got demoted by a corporate hatchetman from CTO to a simple “code maintainer”. bleh.
I emailed terrasoft and they said the ISOs would be available for free public download 2 weeks after they start shipping the boxed version. That’s about early May. Can’t wait.