Motorola, who has seen its fortunes in the phone market decline a bit thanks to nimble European and Asian competition, is hoping that the Linux operating system and Chinese manufacturing and engineering talent can turn the tide, according to an article in The Register. These phones will run Linux but most of the applications that run on top will be Java.
He He, imagine how S-L-O-W Moto phones will be running Java
Qualcomm’s Brew platform seems to have a lot more going for it than Java does (it’s compiled and you can use C++ with it, for starters).
http://www.qualcomm.com/brew/
Could someone who knows about this please write something about it (Ryan or somebody like that, not you Cronoan)?
“Qualcomm’s Brew platform seems to have a lot more going for it than Java does (it’s compiled and you can use C++ with it, for starters).”
Java is a compiled language as well.
Please stop showing your idiocy by telling Java is slow. It was. 5 years ago. (Are you hearing M A Murcek, JR? Did you ever used a Java phone? Was it slow? I’ve seen many. None was slow.)
By the way, Brew is not really have any momentum at all. All the mobile producers are gathering around Java. Especially MIDP v2.0 phones will rock in couple of months.
In Europe and Japan, more than 90 percent of the phones are already Java.
Why
“These phones will run Linux but most of the applications that run on top will be Java.”
but not,
“These phones will run Linux and most of the applications that run on top will be Java.”
????
In Europe and Japan, more than 90 percent of the phones are already Java.
Please, I lived in Japan. about 50% of phones do NOT do Java, because you can get them for free with a 6-month phone service subscription. Most people choose them, and then others choose some of the more expensive ones that can come with Java built-in, or a color camera, etc. I know you love to throw around incorrect info, but please.
It’s a subtle distinction. I use “but” because one might think that a Linux-based device might use applications written in C like a Linux-based PC does, but since most “smart” mobile phones today rely on Java applications, Linux is just a foundation for a Java VM. Neither Motorola nor the various hardware manufacturers is really interested in Linux hacking or developing customized, high performance applications that would be unique to these Linux-based smartphones. It seems that their interest in Linux is mostly to get a little freedom from being under the thumb of Symbian and Qualcomm and other phone OS makers (and to save money).
J2ME is cool. It really works, it isn’t too slow if you program for it properly, and it really is cross-platform (minor tweaks give you everything from moto phones to nokias to the ericsson p800 smartphone; quite a range of devices).
brew has issues; not many devices, and it costs an arm and a leg to license the compiler ($1500 anybody? I thought not..)
Well i hope that motorola’s input on the GUI is kept to an absolute minimum. Motorola’s phones have miserable GUI’s. Anyone have any guesses on minimum processor requirements to run linux on a cell phone or what kind of performance it will bring?
Its good and bad news for palm and microsoft. It means that symbian will have less market share. It also means that motorola might be a tougher target for palm and microsoft.
I think we’ll seem more vendors jumping off the symbian bandwagon or minimizing their use of it. Symbian (which i happen to think is pretty cool) seems to have a perception problem. Specifically too many people think symbian = series 60 = nokia.
then again nokia has just south of 40% of the market so all symbian really needs is nokia.
Who needs a complicated OS on a cellphone anyway, all I use mine for is for calling people and keeping track of numbers/addresses… who really uses all the other “features” of more advanced phones anyway?
Any manufacturer can license this reference design…
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/Feb03/02-17ConceptDes…
Look out Nokia. High-end smartphone prices/margins are going to start going down, down, down real soon now until they are a commodity hardware market just like PCs, where only the Dells of the world can figure out how to make money.
Who would have though that a company like Wistron would be tackling the cell-phone market (see above)?
http://www.wistron.com/index.html
Cell phones run java code using java chips like those from rockwell or nazomi:
http://www.nazomi.com/jChip.asp?tab=products&sub=jChip
It’s NOT slow, it’s like running native code so dont troll please.