Major technology companies and DesktopLinux.com today announced their sponsorship of the inaugural Desktop Linux Summit to be held in San Diego on Feb 20-21, 2003. The Summit will be the first event entirely devoted to desktop Linux and will be hosted by the top executives of leading technology companies worldwide including Codeweavers, Hewlett Packard, Lindows.com, Lycoris, MandrakeSoft, Sun Microsystems, SuSE, and Ximian.
Desktop Linux Leaders to Hold Summit
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This thing is really happening! There is a momentum building, I can feel it.
Sun and HP just becasue they are large corperations. Ximian becasue they have been around a while pushing for the Linux desktop before Mandrake or Suse got to the highly “usable” state they are at now.
companies listed in alphabetical order….imagine if they weren’t……haha
“”HP is committed to offering customers optimized Linux solutions across our entire portfolio of products and services,” said Jim Gettys, HP Labs. “By offering Linux across the board, we enable customers the choice to deploy Linux in the situations that best meet their business objectives today and well into the future.”
Is this guy talking about desktop customers as well? If so, funny that when I bought a new HP scanner recently, it had a full-color foldout poster that showed me how to set it up in Windows … there wasn’t shit in the package for Linux. In fact, they offer no Linux drivers for it on their site and none of the distros seem to be able to auto-detect it (not that I care a whole lot, but something I noticed when giving MDK9 and RH8 a test drive).
Nevertheless, just one more reason why Linux isn’t ready for the desktop. (They really need to get more hardware vendors with the program.) Though not really Linux’s fault, that’s just the way the cookie crumbles.
Why ain’t they there?
I have to agree. It really froasts my cookies when I see companies like IBM and HP mearly pay lip service to Linux with no real tangiable results to back themselves up.
For example, why hasn’t IBM pushed for Lotus Notes and Lotus Smart Suite to be ported to Linux? or better yet, why not buy out Corel and port their applications accross, sign a desktop license with Redhat, then throw all the applications into a bundle so that Joe and Jane luser can buy it?
As for other companies, put a few million into a pot, and grant money to companies who wish to port their applications to Linux, YES ADOBE AND MACROMEDIA, I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU! Is it truely pathetic when companies like Adobe are virtually printing money, yet, can’t even port a basic application to Linux.
Xandros is not there either, and they are also destined for desktops…
Is it truely pathetic when companies like Adobe are virtually printing money, yet, can’t even port a basic application to Linux.
Adobe’s too busy pressing charges against Russian hackers under the DMCA. </sarcasm>
Seriously, I don’t think Adobe’s relations with the open source community are going to improve anytime soon. Ditto for Macromedia.
I’m just surprised there are this many companies coming to this summit. At first I thought it was pretty much a Robertson publicity stunt (which, lol, it may have been – but now it’s something larger than that).
>>>For example, why hasn’t IBM pushed for Lotus Notes and Lotus Smart Suite to be ported to Linux?
uh …maybe because slowtus notes is dead on the windows platform.
why port a loser product over to linux? I’ll take postfix/cyrus/horde/imp and day over Notes.
-current notes user, Windows AND Mac version.
uh …maybe because slowtus notes is dead on the windows platform.
true true
IMHO, the only way to crack the Outlook/Exchange Juggernaut is for some groupware server under the GPL to be developed that can interface with OpenOffice…since it’s cross-OS compatible
Trying to make something that Outlook will talk to is a losing battle. Something that replaces MS-Office and Exchange altogether and whose clients can run on Windows, Max and Linux just might have a chance
@Matthew Gardiner
i dont think linux is ready for adobe. most adobe products suck anyway ( i cant stand pdf files, and golive is a nightmare ). but i think adobe is probably better for those who print and publish which means fonts and stuff that i hear others complain about still.
macromedia has no excuse though. linux is ready for them. dreamweaver and flash dev would be nice on linux natively.
@ darius
seems like most companies are very hipocritical at this point in time. its a shame.
i cant spell lol.
hypocritical…..
IBM spends so much money on Linux, why aren’t they participating in this?
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Let’s hope IBM stays out of this. Their products have some of the most non-standard and ugly interfaces around.
-G
–quoted by Matthew Gardiner–
As for other companies, put a few million into a pot, and grant money to companies who wish to port their applications to Linux, YES ADOBE AND MACROMEDIA, I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU! Is it truely pathetic when companies like Adobe are virtually printing money, yet, can’t even port a basic application to Linux.
–/quoted by Matthew Gardiner–
Ahh, same old Matthew Gardiner.. What exactly basic application, you are talking about? There already have Flash, Adobe viewer and etc native for Linux that were made by Adobe and Macromedia.
Adobe Acrobat Reader: -> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
It even has Linux, IRIX, OS/2 and other Unix.
Adobe Central Pro Output Server: -> http://www.adobe.com/products/server/centralpro/main.html
It even has Linux, IRIX, OS/2 and other Unix.
Macromedia Flash Player: -> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
Again, it even has Linux, IRIX, OS/2 and other Unix.
Macromedia ColdFusion Server: -> http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial_download/
There even have the Linux version for it.
Macromedia Flash Remoting MX: -> http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial_download/
There even have the Linux version for it.
ColdFusion MX for J2EE: -> http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial_download/
There even have the Linux version for it.
There have more of Adobe products, but I don’t need to list whole of it. As for Photoshop, Flash, Firework and etc, because those big companies knew that Linux/Unix aren’t even full ready for the desktop market, yet. Quit complain and troll or you go ahead write your own one. I suggest you to do the research before you post anything.
To Anonymous at IP: 68.103.37.—:
First, I can’t understand why you have the time to respond to a post/pester and can’t tell us your name and email.
Second, your last paragraph is pathetic. The people that would use Photoshop, Flash, Firework(s) are Web Developers, Designers, etc., not Joe Users and his mother. They don’t need ac omplete desktop, they just need the appz to their daily WORK. So, please, if you can’t admit the Macromedia/Adobe don’t have the guts to make the jump, please stay away, we can recognize someone that doesn’t know what he is talking about, don’t need to embarras yourself.
BTW, I currently run Windows XP as my desktop mostly because Dreamweaver MX, Photoshop 7 and Flash MX only run on Windows. I can’t afford a Mac and sincerely I’m quite fond of these applications.
Adrian Madrid
Web Developer
Well, I hope they can all agree to build one installation tool. Also, I would hope they can agree on a few basic things and tools. Part of the problem right now is that each distro keeps reinventing the wheels already available in other distros. Linux on the desktop is definitely going to get much better.
Dreamweaver, photoshop??? I too, I wonder why those apps have not been ported. I certainly hope they will do it sooner than later.
Wouldn’t it be a great oppotunitie, for B.E.OS, to show their project ?
Oh, one good thing about the Lindows people is that they seem to be pretty serious about making money from their product. They seem to be pretty focused and hardworking, and it doesn’t look like they plan to close shop today or tommorow. If they can make this image transition from being a second-hand windows to being a linux distribution, they might actually do well in the long run.
Eugenia, have you had a chance to try the new Xandros? Can we expect one of your thunderous reviews soon?????
First, I can’t understand why you have the time to respond to a post/pester and can’t tell us your name and email.
What do you care? As for email, I don’t welcome the spammers.
The people that would use Photoshop, Flash, Firework(s) are Web Developers, Designers, etc., not Joe Users and his mother. They don’t need ac omplete desktop, they just need the appz to their daily WORK.
Desktop is for everybody, that including business users. The business users need the good desktop to work on and easier to use, so I wasn’t talking about only home user.
So, please, if you can’t admit the Macromedia/Adobe don’t have the guts to make the jump, please stay away, we can recognize someone that doesn’t know what he is talking about, don’t need to embarras yourself.
I didn’t say that I can’t admit. It’s true that Linux/Unix aren’t even ready for the desktop market, yet. They are getting there so far and will arrive there pretty soon. That’s FACT and TRUTH! Myself don’t use Windows for over a year and I even admit that Linux/Unix aren’t ready.
What’s to embarras about?
>Eugenia, have you had a chance to try the new Xandros? Can we expect one of your thunderous reviews soon?????
I did the preview, not sure if I will be reviewing it. I think Nicholas, one of our contributor writers might write something one of these days.
IBM, unlike HP, is just commited to Linux on their servers. Not their desktop. HP says they are committed to making Linux accessible on all their products. IBM isn’t.
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Besides, I notice Lindows.com is going. Didn’t they said they aren’t a desktop Linux company or a Linux company? Wow.
Lotus rules in certain business applications. I work for an insurance company and all of stuff is based in notes….it can’t be replaced.all of the custom databases that are totally shared with everyone in the company…over 1200 people.
Notes also works in wine. All the backend stuff is ported to linux. once desktop linux starts taking off i bet you’ll see them port the notes client.
IBM’s doing alot of stuff…look at the “Speed start your linux app” stuff they’re doing…go check developerworks.
As for HP, well, they’re trying. They have alot of printer drivers available and also contribute to an open source driver project. Give them time…it’s certainly not job #1, and it really shouldn’t be….YET.The same applies to all the big companies….how much effort do you think they can realistically put into it at this stage in the game?
They’re all very new in it…give them time. These are major corporations that will shift more and more focus on desktop linux WHEN IT WARRANTS IT. sadly, it doesn’t yet.
classic chicken before the egg stuff…
What do you care? As for email, I don’t welcome the spammers.
I like to know the name of the person I’m talking to, that’s all. And I’m not afraid of having my name and opinions recognized together.
Desktop is for everybody, that including business users. The business users need the good desktop to work on and easier to use, so I wasn’t talking about only home user.
Well, I’m a business user, as well as all the other people that work in my office. And most of them need all the apps that I mentioned to do their daily work. Wouldn’t it be for those appz there are plenty of good replacements (Evolution, OpenOffice, etc.). So, what is it that is not ready on the desktop for a business user? Still don’t follow your logic. Is there any? State your reasons if you desire to be heard.
I didn’t say that I can’t admit.
Sorry, there is to much false logic in there that I don’t know how to answer.
It’s true that Linux/Unix aren’t even ready for the desktop market, yet. They are getting there so far and will arrive there pretty soon. That’s FACT and TRUTH! Myself don’t use Windows for over a year and I even admit that Linux/Unix aren’t ready.
Again, absolute statements without sustaining arguments. Capital letters won’t help either.
What’s to embarras about?
Defending companies for their lack of vision or guts. All your examples are either players or servers (which everyone and their dog understand the promint place Linux/Unix plays in that area) and no development appz. Quoting your original post:
As for Photoshop, Flash, Firework and etc, because those big companies knew that Linux/Unix aren’t even full ready for the desktop market, yet. Quit complain and troll or you go ahead write your own one. I suggest you to do the research before you post anything.
That sounds to me that big companies are excused of breaking ground because the desktop is not ready. Sorry but Photoshop 7, Dreamweaver MX and others are business oriented. You better make money out of them because they are expensive, update often and have developers/designers in mind (all business users). So, please, for the last time, stop defending companies with a follower attitude. They have plenty of money to do marketing and fool people like you.